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Posted by the doog on Wednesday, October 1, 2008 9:38 AM

Thanks, White_34! I appreaciate ya taking the time to comment! Smile [:)]

Thanks, too vespa boy! Thanks for the generous compliment! Blush [:I] I'm more relieved tha anything to know that I can get a decent-looking finish on a car model! Ten years ago, I couldn't do it. Just proof of how this site has realy expanded my talent and knowledge! Thanks for commenting! Can't wait to see your next project! Tongue [:P]

Dave, Gary is "The Man"! I learned a lot just from his comments on my first build!

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Posted by vespa boy on Wednesday, October 1, 2008 9:04 AM
Doog, I came in late here. NICE build, and I do like the weathering in the engine bay and the overspray under the car. You have a real talent for making models of any subject. And its nice to you stretch yourself on these non-military projects. Keep them coming.

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This ain't no Mudd Club, or C.B.G.B.,
I ain't got time for that now

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Posted by UnderdogF7U on Wednesday, October 1, 2008 8:55 AM

Now, Doog and Gary,  You understand that this is of course all in fun. Clown [:o)] Once in a while I'm only lucky enough to beat Squeakie Gary to the punch, or can supplement something that he's given you all the basics on.  He is still the master here, and someone I am quickly beginning to look up to a lot. Bow [bow]I hope I get to meet you both some day.

Dave

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Posted by White_R34 on Tuesday, September 30, 2008 6:56 PM
Hay man out standing work.Bow [bow]
Building the Impossible Is my main goal!!
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Posted by the doog on Tuesday, September 30, 2008 6:39 PM

Hey Dvae B.,

Thanks for the props on my car! I don't think that I could ever "take on Squeakie and win"! LOL! The man is a veritable encyclopedia of knowledge! I'm just happy that I had at least some references that would keep me from having to rip that engine out and repaint those valve covers in silver! LOL!

Great idea on that guitar string too; I shoulda thought of that!

Aaron--WOW, I don't know if I should laugh or cry about your son's comments there? On one hand, I'm bummed that he would think my intention was to maodel trouble for the Bun family; on the other hand, I'm impressed that a boy of his youth would be so cognizant of the need to pick up litter like that which could pose a danger to animals! Good for him! Big Smile [:D]

Just tell him that my Daddy taught me very well; "Never leave anything in the woods but your footprints"!

Gary-- Don't stop contributing to my build posts! It's because of comments like yours in my previous posts that have pushed me to improve my research on these builds! 

Thanks, all!Big Smile [:D]

 

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Posted by squeakie on Tuesday, September 30, 2008 5:51 PM
 UnderdogF7U wrote:

Holy Cow Doog,  You did the near impossible, you took on Squeakie and won, well kind of, it wasn't a 56 to 0 route, but maybe like a good 24 to 21 overtime win. Shock [:O] Squeakie is of course right in principle, there was that dress up package which was popular from the factory and even from direct connection and Mopar Performance in later years, (maybe to this day) but most I've ever seen in magazines and at countless Mopar shows have had the orange valve covers and air cleaner lid!  Undercarriage weathering looks great and as for the engine, well hey, you just got it back from the body shop, and not doing a full body off restoration, you just haven't gotten to the engine cleanup/detailing part yet or..........  It's a model, its yours, and it looks good. 

Oh, and speaking of guitar strings, another good reason for being a guitar player, it you're kind of lazy some day, does't the low E, biggest string for the laymen out there make a good, fast in scale throttle return spring when cut to the right length. Whistling [:-^]

Dave B.

Like I said I can't remember ever seeing one that didn't have chrome valve cover, so just assumed they all came that way. (like 396 and 427 Chevys). I've seen air cleaners done in black and orange both (the big multi carb ones), but the vast majority were orange. Samething for the single four barrel air cleaners on the 383 / 440's; virtually all were black except for one. I had that one! (chromed from the factory at that!)

gary

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Posted by sfcmac on Tuesday, September 30, 2008 4:25 PM

On a somewhat barely unrelated note. My youngest  son was reading the New FSM issue next to me.  I had said nothing to him about it and he was just enthralled with the Weathered abandoned Nomad. He ask questions about the hair spray weathering and the ground work. Then with the most concerned sincere voice ask why anyone would model bunnies in trouble.

 The rabbits are in trouble I ask ? So he showed me a piece of garbage on the groundwork. An old six pack plastic ring can holder. He explained to me how those things kill animals and what a gruesome scene.

So if anyone knows the author of that article tell him PITA is looking for him! Watch Out!

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Posted by UnderdogF7U on Tuesday, September 30, 2008 4:14 PM

Holy Cow Doog,  You did the near impossible, you took on Squeakie and won, well kind of, it wasn't a 56 to 0 route, but maybe like a good 24 to 21 overtime win. Shock [:O] Squeakie is of course right in principle, there was that dress up package which was popular from the factory and even from direct connection and Mopar Performance in later years, (maybe to this day) but most I've ever seen in magazines and at countless Mopar shows have had the orange valve covers and air cleaner lid!  Undercarriage weathering looks great and as for the engine, well hey, you just got it back from the body shop, and not doing a full body off restoration, you just haven't gotten to the engine cleanup/detailing part yet or..........  It's a model, its yours, and it looks good. 

Oh, and speaking of guitar strings, another good reason for being a guitar player, it you're kind of lazy some day, does't the low E, biggest string for the laymen out there make a good, fast in scale throttle return spring when cut to the right length. Whistling [:-^]

Dave B.

Dave Bayer
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Posted by J-Hulk on Monday, September 29, 2008 5:50 AM
 the doog wrote:

 J-Hulk wrote:


The only advice I can offer other than what has been mentioned is that the hood that came on the 69 1/2 440 Six Pack Super Bee was a one-piece lift-off fiberglass unit with the scoop being integral, with no seams showing around the edges. Shouldn't be too much of a hassle to go back and blend the scoop into the hood and re-spray it flat black, eh?
Here's a link to a good pic: http://picasaweb.google.com/fishbon3/2007AmericanClassicCarShow#5081699390358274082



Hmmm...interesting detail there, J-Hulk! I never would have figured that!

I agree that the wiring from Detial Master is perfect scale, and really easy to work with too!

I'll go back on take a loook at my references, and see if it's a realistic fix to do; I'm just skeered that I might ruin it (especially the decals!) if I get in there too deep....but thanks for pointing that out, and for the nice compliments! 



Ah, yeah, I didn't think about the decals. That would be kinda tough! Well, it's a great build as it is, so no big whoop!

Looing forward to seeing that '56!
~Brian
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Posted by the doog on Sunday, September 28, 2008 5:47 PM

Thanks, Sean!

I used a .022 guitar string, Just unwind the windings and put it in a drilled hole. The base is just a slice of plastic rod painted silver.

I'll be doing a 56 Chevy Bel Aire next, repicating my girlfriend's father's car. He died 9 years ago, I'll be building the car as a surprise  Christmas present for her Mom. That won't be for a couple of weeks yet--I gotta build some more armor! Wink [;)]

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Posted by Summit on Sunday, September 28, 2008 5:23 PM

Doog - Outstanding ! That is one Perfect Build. The Cowl Grill looks like a 1/1 car (except for a leaf or two wedged in there) the Wipers look like Stainless. Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup] What did you use to make your antenna ?

And the rest of your Muscle Collection rates up there also. I cant wait to see what kit you tackle next. 

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by the doog on Sunday, September 28, 2008 2:08 PM

Thanks, namrednef! Thank you for the nice compliment!

Well, I fixed the cowl, painted the wipers, and added an antenna...

Here's a photo of my Muscle Car collection so far---the '69 Shelby Cobra was in FSM's Reader's Galllery two years ago; I built it about 10 years ago.

 

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Posted by namrednef on Sunday, September 28, 2008 8:33 AM

 

Doog! Nice job.....the engine pops! Too bad car kits don't lend themselves to interior shots!

Canopy closed.

Very realistic work....especially the chassis! This car has been repainted.....that's what a lot salesman told me when I noted overspray underneath. I think it makes it more real!

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  • From: Niagara Falls NY
Posted by Butz on Sunday, September 28, 2008 2:18 AM

Hey doog,

 I know exaclty what you mean.... And you are most welcome my friend... Clean or used, she sure is Top Notch..!!

 As to weather the outside.. Aaahhh no..!! Leave it unless you want to add just a tad road dust from well hullin arsh up n down the blvd..!!

 Flaps up,

Mike

Rangers Lead The Way

 

  If you would listen to everybody about the inaccuracies, most of the kits on your shelf would not have been built Too Close For Guns, Switching To Finger

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Posted by the doog on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:52 AM

Thanks, spudzero and Butz!

I know what you're saying, Butz--I should weather the outside as well? But to be honest, this build relly reflects my personality--if I owned this car, I'd wash it at the car wash every now and them but the engine would look like that. I'm not a neatfreak...Whistling [:-^]Wink [;)]

Besides, after all the work it took to get that finish looking like it does, there's no way I'm dirtying it up! Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] Thanks for the compliment though! 

Gary--once again your knowledge shows its vast depth and breadth. To be honest though, I have no idea what a "pinion snubber" is! Is it rare? WHat do ya do withit? Is it legal? Laugh [(-D]

Thanks, too Tony! Wait til you meet the "sexy beast" I'm bringing to SYRCON! LOL! Wink [;)]

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Posted by lexesbenz on Sunday, September 28, 2008 1:48 AM
That's a sexy beast ya got their Doog!Big Smile [:D]
The flying hamster of doom rains coconuts on your pitiful city!!!!
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Posted by Butz on Sunday, September 28, 2008 12:56 AM

Howdy doog,

 Over all build is very impressive..!!! I love the colour and the "Super Bee" graphics.. I love the weathering job on the engine but (this is me only), it does not really coincise w/ the over all car  itself..

 Yet again, if you have the power, use it and use it hardTongue [:P] Sweetass job over all my friend.

Flaps up,

Mike

Rangers Lead The Way

 

  If you would listen to everybody about the inaccuracies, most of the kits on your shelf would not have been built Too Close For Guns, Switching To Finger

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Posted by squeakie on Saturday, September 27, 2008 5:44 PM
 the doog wrote:
 squeakie wrote:

Also I can't remember ever seeing a factory six pack with orange valve covers. Seems like they were chrome from the factory, but I've also slept a lot since then.

Nice car and one of my favorite colors.

gary

Thanks, Gary, for the compliment!

Well, that's really interesting about the valve covers--I do trust your vast knowledge of these cars and this era, but here's some of the references I used which seem to show that perhaps they did come in orange. I'm pretty confident that at least a good argument could be made to that effect.These are both from Superbee "6 Packs".

 

I appreciate the info about the weathering effects; all I can say is that this car is in that other 2%! LOL!  Thanks for weighing in!

they probably were orange then from the factory, but in 68 and 69 there was an engine dress up option that did include chrome valve covers and a chrome air cleaner on single four barrel cars. All cars that had the air induction thru the hood had an orange air cleaner except for max wedges. You most often see them with orange air cleaners on them, but 90% were shipped with black ones.

     The orange car is not a six pac car, but the guy's done a nice jobe building a clone! He has a 1970 or later style air cleaner on it with a steel hood. The green car is a real six pac right down to the rubber heater hose spacers on the hood pins! Six pac cars didn't come with hubcaps, but had the chrome plated lug nuts instead. They also came with a 4.10 rear end and a Dana 60 third member no matter transmission option. Also had 15" tires instead of the standard 14" ones (hemis also had 15" tires as well) Basicly a six pac car was a wedge powered car built on a hemi chasis, but with a wedge K-member. The carbs are similar to the ones on a 435 hp Corvette, but flow about 20% more air. Canadian built six pacs use a different set of carbs than the U.S. built ones. They had accelerator pumps on each carb where as the U.S. built ones only had one big one. The 1969 cars made about 20 more horsepower than the 1970 and later ones due to a lighter weight set of rods and pistons.

    And speaking of big orange monsters on the prowl: what if I told you I have a pinion snubber in my possesion?

gary

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Posted by spudzero on Saturday, September 27, 2008 5:37 PM

WOW Now thats one nice machine I really like what you did under the hood wow nice really nice

 

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Posted by sfcmac on Saturday, September 27, 2008 2:56 PM

 Finally woke up as it has been one exhausting week for me. In the light of day with a fresh cup of coffee in my hand it looks even better!  Only have praise for your builds. The diff between Armor and Autos as far as techniques, gloss paints extc would be a hard thing to master for me. Be almost like starting over again with all the new stuff! Looks like you have been building them for years though.

 I'll keep a look out for that article on the Kitty litter. Sounds odd but I remember reading this fellow spread some over white glue on a simple wood base. He crushed it first before appling then rolled it with an old water pipe to press it flat on the base into the glue. When he painted it it looked exactly like the parking lot the Orange Bee above is sitting on.

 Not too important but it was impressive enough for me to remember. I like those cheap but effective recipes.

 Now when you gonna build that Mini Van LOL!

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Posted by the doog on Saturday, September 27, 2008 12:09 PM
 squeakie wrote:

Also I can't remember ever seeing a factory six pack with orange valve covers. Seems like they were chrome from the factory, but I've also slept a lot since then.

Nice car and one of my favorite colors.

gary

Thanks, Gary, for the compliment!

Well, that's really interesting about the valve covers--I do trust your vast knowledge of these cars and this era, but here's some of the references I used which seem to show that perhaps they did come in orange. I'm pretty confident that at least a good argument could be made to that effect.These are both from Superbee "6 Packs".

 

I appreciate the info about the weathering effects; all I can say is that this car is in that other 2%! LOL!  Thanks for weighing in!

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Posted by squeakie on Saturday, September 27, 2008 11:49 AM
 the doog wrote:

Whew!

Man this was a project! Mostly because I went for an enamel yellow finish, which just took forever to "take" and polish and repaint and wait and polish and repaint, etc, etc, etc! Banged Head [banghead]

Well, my "Armor" background shows in the engine bay--I weathered the engine to look realistic. I'm just not a fan of super-clean engines. I say buy 'em and run 'em hard!

Welll, i'll stop talkin' and show it off. I used MOdel Master Enamel Yellow and Fred Cady decals, Wiring and plumbing from Detail Master products. 

I'm pretty much burnt out on this one, so I hope I don't need to revise anything too radically (sqeakie! Whistling [:-^]...Wink [;)]

Comments and critiques welcomed! 

under the hood would have been spotless on about 98% of the cars, and we usually washed the engine compartment every couple weeks. Also I can't remember ever seeing a factory six pack with orange valve covers. Seems like they were chrome from the factory, but I've also slept a lot since then. When they went to the PVC valve it pretty much eleminated an oily effect in the engine area, and the only ones you ever seen oil and dirt were hemis. They would get an oil build up in the sparkplug tubes, and you had to turn the motor over without the sparkplugs to sorta blow all that oil out of the chambers. Then put the old plugs in and run it for a couple minutes to burn the rest of it out. After that you put the new plugs in. Nice car and one of my favorite colors.

gary

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Posted by the doog on Saturday, September 27, 2008 11:03 AM

 J-Hulk wrote:


The only advice I can offer other than what has been mentioned is that the hood that came on the 69 1/2 440 Six Pack Super Bee was a one-piece lift-off fiberglass unit with the scoop being integral, with no seams showing around the edges. Shouldn't be too much of a hassle to go back and blend the scoop into the hood and re-spray it flat black, eh?


Hmmm...interesting detail there, J-Hulk! I never would have figured that!

I agree that the wiring from Detial Master is perfect scale, and really easy to work with too!

I'll go back on take a loook at my references, and see if it's a realistic fix to do; I'm just skeered that I might ruin it (especially the decals!) if I get in there too deep....but thanks for pointing that out, and for the nice compliments! 

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Posted by the doog on Saturday, September 27, 2008 10:58 AM

Thanks so much guys, for the really supportive comments! As you know, I'm more of an Armor guy, so it's a real encouraging thing to get such positive feedback on this baby! It was a real task to get that yellow to work!

Summit--good call on the cowl grille! Illl take care of that for sure! And thanks for the compliment!

Aaron,  good call as well on the wipers; I just plain overlooked that, but you're correct--they should have a line of black "rubber" on them.I'll fix that as well!

I'll get a pic of the Charger and this stable mate side-by-side here in a bit; they look good sitting next to each other here on the shelf! 

Thanks again, guys!!! Big Smile [:D]

 

 

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Posted by J-Hulk on Saturday, September 27, 2008 10:52 AM
Another great-looking '69 1/2 Six Pack Super Bee at FSM!

I agree the engine compartment looks great weathered a bit, especially on a model, but if that were my real car, it'd be clean AND run hard!
Great job on the plug wiring, too. Perfect gauge, I'd say! Looks to me you pulled off the difficult yellow paint job, too. Excellent!

The only advice I can offer other than what has been mentioned is that the hood that came on the 69 1/2 440 Six Pack Super Bee was a one-piece lift-off fiberglass unit with the scoop being integral, with no seams showing around the edges. Shouldn't be too much of a hassle to go back and blend the scoop into the hood and re-spray it flat black, eh?

Keep the Mopars coming, Doog!

EDIT: Here's a link to a pic of the hood:
http://picasaweb.google.com/fishbon3/2007AmericanClassicCarShow#5081699390358274082

~Brian
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Posted by sfcmac on Saturday, September 27, 2008 6:38 AM

 Very spiffy work Dogg! I mean it looks fantastic and the engine weathering and the polished yellow body color is very well done. I usually don't like yellow just because it is a hard color to work with and get right. Really shows your dedication and talents that you pulled it off. Only thing I can nit pick about is the wipers. I son't model cars so I may be talking out my backside but the wipers are so chomed and shiney. No rubber or black edge on the flatside. Plus never have seen chromed wipers not that they don't exist.

It's really no big deal but was the only thing my inexperienced eyes noticed that looked off. Everything else is spot on and sharp. The wipers are prob just a minor unimportant thing. Kinda like numbers and FM AM buttons  not on the radio and oval speakers in the back window. (Threw those extremes in to illustrate my ignorance)

 What I think would be cool would be to see it side by side with your Charger. No real reason just think it would be a cool pic. Maybe personalize it with a 1/24 scale Fender Guitar in the back seat or an album cover for an old vinyl record.  An oil rag or tool perhaps. Just thinking of the details you add to your Armor to add a type of realistic feel.

Perhaps a natural environment as you suggest when displaying Armor models. Nothing too fancy but I remember reading an article about making scale asphalt outta kitty litter to make a simple road bed display.

 None of this is a critic mind you just my mind flowing after working all night. Maybe I overdosed on the coffee. Even though I don't see any dead bugs stuck in the radiator fins it looks pretty real. I'll take a good nap and check again, Cheers to a fine looking Super Bee! Tongue [:P] 

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Posted by Summit on Friday, September 26, 2008 11:45 PM

Top Notch all the way, Thumbs Up [tup]Thumbs Up [tup] Chassis looks like it should for a Driver. Only thing I would reccomend touching up would be the "Cowl Grill" it is too clean it needs a dark wash in the depths.

{Cowl Grill - area behind hood and in front of windshield } in case you did not know Confused [%-)]

Sean "I've reached nearly fifty years of age with my system." Weekend GB 2008
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Posted by DURR on Friday, September 26, 2008 9:57 PM
real cool
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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, September 26, 2008 9:14 PM
Do I hear "Hiway Star" playing on the 8-track?Thumbs Up [tup] Once again, VERY NICE!

 

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Posted by Mike H. on Friday, September 26, 2008 9:10 PM
FREAKIN' SWEET!!!!Bow [bow]
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