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Posted by bobbaily on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 10:41 AM

Start & End Dates?  I won't be able to start anything until late spring/early summer.

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 11:02 AM
April 15th 2008 to lets say Jan 15th 2009 ( end date subject to change)

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Posted by NucMedTech on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 12:14 PM
I've got a few projects going on right now, but with the long build dates I could probably sneak a car into my project list.Cowboy [C):-)]

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Posted by SeaBee on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 1:19 PM
Good one, Dustin. Like I said, I'm in. Was just thinking of springing a Dakar surprise on you, but see you've allready thought of it! PMA 2005 Nissan Dakar waiting to be built... Whistling [:-^]
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Posted by bobbaily on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 1:31 PM

 williamsfw28 wrote:
April 15th 2008 to lets say Jan 15th 2009 ( end date subject to change)

That give me more than enough time to over commit. 

I'm in....dunno what yet, but I'm in.

Bob

 

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 1:50 PM
 PMA??  model company?  that 2005 is a nifty looking little truck. Must be a MM kit.  I new if I didnt put that rally in someone was going to call me on it. Sad they couldnt race it I know someone that was part of the American team that was going to race.Censored [censored]......they were pretty upset they didnt get to race

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Posted by SeaBee on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 3:33 PM

Can only imagine they lost a lot of money - race being cancelled that late... Which American team - the Robby Gordon outfit? Or weren't they coming again this year? Can only imagine, bar the financial aspect, how peeved they must've been. All the preparations... Wonder if it will still be the same feel if they move it to South America. Btw, slightly o/t, did you read Rcae to Dakar by Charlie Bohrman yet?

PMA = Province Miniature Automobiles - they do 1:43rd. First kit I have from them. Having only completed two 43rd's, I'll pass on this one for the time being, but it looks an awesome little model. Next in my 43rd attempts might well be the Hornish 2002 Panther racing IRL car - allways liked that scheme!

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 5:09 PM

 I believe he is part of the Gordon team. I dont know him very well he good friends with my best friend. Friend through a friend you might say.  The Gordon team was fielding to Hummers for the 2008 race.

  Im not ready for 43rd yet but in time there are a few kits I'd like to have.

 Question??  I was looking at a trans kit to build a 911 GT3 LM but cant figure out witch is the doner kit..  any ideas??

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Posted by NucMedTech on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:22 PM
Okay, I'm in with Tamiya's Nissan R390 GT1. It was entered in the 1997 Le Mans, apparently the team did not do to well though. Never the less it's a nice little car. Now, I probably will not start until mid summer, I've got a few other projects to start and finish.Cowboy [C):-)]

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 8:49 PM

 Who cares if the car did well that was a cool car! Theres going to be plenty of time. Welcome to the grid.  

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Posted by NucMedTech on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 7:29 AM
Thanks Dustin, I think it's a nice little car also. I noticed you changed your avatar, looks good.Cowboy [C):-)]

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 11:46 AM
 Thanks..The DBR9 is a nifty looking car.  I would have left the Red Bull B team car up but Scott Speed was booted from the team ( Raw Deal if you ask me) because Burger didnt like the kid (well thats what I think anyways). 

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Posted by nicholma on Thursday, February 21, 2008 3:07 AM
Maybe I'll be in too. And I do have some 43rd Dakar kits somewhere too. It might get me enthused again!
Kia ora, Mark "Time flies like the wind, fruit flies like bananas"
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Posted by williamsfw28 on Monday, March 31, 2008 8:35 PM
So do you guys think this GB has any life??? I have a DB9 and a Toyota waiting.

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Posted by mkhoot on Monday, March 31, 2008 10:20 PM
I'd be interested I've been wanting to build James Garners '68 Vette from Daytona.
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Posted by SeaBee on Tuesday, April 1, 2008 12:41 AM
Looks like enough interest to me...?? Even if some start a bit late.
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Posted by nicholma on Tuesday, April 1, 2008 1:57 AM
I'm in. I've got 2 Group C Lancia's and Millen's Le Mans Nissan ZX and if I can get the colour nailed down a Paris Dakar Renault.
Kia ora, Mark "Time flies like the wind, fruit flies like bananas"
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Posted by bobbaily on Tuesday, April 1, 2008 5:51 AM
Not sure what I'll be building, but I'm in.

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Tuesday, April 1, 2008 7:33 AM
Ok ............well I guess will keep it as a soft April 15th start date but we will push the end date to Feb 1st 2009. the badge will have to come later because I dont have P/S so Ill have to look for outside help

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Posted by kenjitak on Tuesday, April 1, 2008 1:17 PM

I am definitely in on this one! the hard part will be picking what to build. I've got a bunch of candidates in my stash but I'm leaning towards my Historic Miniatures 1/24 Cobra Daytona or one of the Le Mans Miniatures GT40's.

A suggestion: How about making the deadline June 14 or 15, the date for the Le Mans 24hrs? 

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Tuesday, April 1, 2008 2:24 PM
June of this year??? I can tell you I would not be able to get my DBR 9 done by then. Just looking at the kit Im finding fit problems

What about launching it on that date ??? But if everyone want a short group build i guess we can try ......what do you guys think???

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Posted by kenjitak on Tuesday, April 1, 2008 3:03 PM
Oops! I meant June 2009, sorry for the confusion! I suppose Le Mans 2009 would be a slightly different date, but that was my intent.

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Tuesday, April 1, 2008 3:15 PM
I was hoping you were thinking 2009

End date would be the Start of the 2009 LeMans race that would give everyone plenty of time to get a project done

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Posted by kenjitak on Wednesday, April 2, 2008 11:38 PM

Well, how's this for a GB?

 

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Posted by bobbaily on Thursday, April 3, 2008 1:52 PM

Looks good kenjitak.  However, the final decision belongs to the GB leader/organizer.  And I've gotten out of the habit of collecting badges.  Getting lazy in my old age.

If I may offer up a suggestion, it would be interesting to post as much historic information about our build subject,i.e., team history, info about the vehicle, races run in and results-when we submit our final pics.

Bob

 

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Thursday, April 3, 2008 3:41 PM
Bob thats a great idea....

I was thinking after the suggestion was made to end this GB on the LeMans race in 2009 Im thinking we should also start the GB on June 14th 2008.

Question for all??? WRC is in its own way is a type of endurance racing SOOOO should it be allowed in??

I like the badge but could we try it with a newer car?

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Posted by kenjitak on Thursday, April 3, 2008 6:09 PM

Okay, here's a combo GB. You can't get any newer than this one! The Gulf DBR9 is about as new as there is, and it's also the 40th anniversary of the first Gulf-sponsored Le Mans win. So what do you think of this one?

  

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Posted by bobbaily on Thursday, April 3, 2008 7:22 PM

kenjitak-Even better badge, imho-old (well, I don't consider it old Wink [;)]) and new.  Best of both.

williams28-As far as WRC/rally cars-I agree, it is an endurance race in its own right. However, it is broken into days & stages, with repairs allowed after the day.  Dunno...I won't say no but I would rather see a Rally GB later.  Just my thoughts My 2 cents [2c].

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Thursday, April 3, 2008 9:59 PM
Ken................I do like that one alot very nice!!!! Im going to say yes god knows i love the DBR9's. Well done.

Bob I agree with you about WRC I guess I just didnt want anyone to be left out. WRC GB is a great idea.

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Posted by SeaBee on Friday, April 4, 2008 2:12 AM

I've not seen a car in Gulf colours look bad! The DBR9 Gulf is just... well, absolutely gorgeous. I think I must build this one so I can have an excuse to get a Gulf version as well, if ever it is brought out. Was contemplating a Gulf McLaren, but this one just stole the show ever since I saw it the first time.

Got no objections to Le Mans '08 to LM '09 dates. However, that will mean that I'll be starting later and on a different subject, as I am poised to start with the DBR9. Will still be busy on it by June, so will comment on it (if allowed). Will see what other endurance racer I'll do after that - there's a couple of options...

And I like Bob's idea of highlighting the car/team's history and significance! 

(And just saw when and I'm in for a rally GB as well! Wink [;)]

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Friday, April 4, 2008 6:55 AM
Sea....... you are so right that car with the gulf colors is beautiful!!!!! How fare are you off before the start of the DBR9 also which did you get again ??? Mines the 2007

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Posted by Aaronw on Friday, April 4, 2008 2:58 PM

 williamsfw28 wrote:
Ken................I do like that one alot very nice!!!! Im going to say yes god knows i love the DBR9's. Well done.

Bob I agree with you about WRC I guess I just didnt want anyone to be left out. WRC GB is a great idea.

 

Well if you guys do start a rally GB, I could be interested in that. I've never been one for building race cars but I recently got an urge to build rally cars. I've got an Alpine 1600SC about halfway done and a stack of others waiting to go. 

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Posted by nicholma on Friday, April 4, 2008 11:52 PM

Very nice revised emblem kenjitak.

Yes make the WRC a seperate GB - we had one a couple of years ago I think. Perhaps have both running together?

Kia ora, Mark "Time flies like the wind, fruit flies like bananas"
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Posted by SeaBee on Sunday, April 6, 2008 1:44 PM
Dustin, I am almost about to start. But been thinking - at my current building speed (I will "borrow" the term glacial from somebody...) I doubt whether I would have done much by mid-June - maybe just a light pre-build to see what gives! So most likely this will only start proper at that time anyways. Have the "original" - the 2005 Le Mans version.
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Posted by williamsfw28 on Sunday, April 6, 2008 2:13 PM
Sea,

Im sure the two kits build the same? I haven't started mine but was tinkering with it and found some fit problems. Nothing is easy I guess so Im sure this kits going to take me some time. Im also working on the Ninja ZX RR right now. Plus I just ordered a Rally car because it seems like a WRC GB is something some of us would also jump at.

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Posted by SeaBee on Sunday, April 6, 2008 3:32 PM

Get off it! Not only do we take aim at the DBR9 at the same time, but I too am busy with the Kawasaki! 

I've only taken the DBR9 box out - what fit problems did you pick up thusfar. Also believe it will be very close to the same thing, just the odd cosmetical change. Well, if yours have fit problem, I will believe mine, having been the first in the range, can potentially be problematic. Which would be strange after the good things I've heard of recent MFH kits.

What do you have incoming for the WRC GB?  

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Posted by bobbaily on Sunday, April 6, 2008 5:09 PM
Assuming that I can finish up some current GB committments, I would be in for a Rally GB-if it were a long time frame end date.  Also, would an older (1973 Datsun 240z-South Africa rally) qualify since it is 'pre-WRC'?

Bob

 

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Sunday, April 6, 2008 9:47 PM
Sea,

Thats is funny Ive just started the the Ninja but the funny thing is Ive had that special paint for weeks just because its a LIMITED edition paint but limited for years Im sure. The first problem I found DBR was the vents above the front tires seem to be way off and will have to be modified so they fit also the roll cage seems to be miss alined but Im sure these thing can and will be overcome. You know it could be the fact that I have limited time on MM kits. The vents on my 2007 are different the yours on the 2005 so you might not have the same problems. We shall see?????

Bob Im sure it going to be a long build when it comes to any WRC or Rally car GB. Heck summers on the way and Im sure alot of us are going to be happy to see the sun again I know I cant wait.

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Posted by nicholma on Monday, April 7, 2008 5:00 AM

 williamsfw28 wrote:

 Heck summers on the way and Im sure alot of us are going to be happy to see the sun again I know I cant wait.

Except as you move into summer we're moving into autumn after the best summer in 10 years - no wind - (but with winter cricket finishes and rugby becomes more important - hey Seabee what's up with the Bulls, at least the Crusaders are in their usual place!). Our summer was ideal for spray painting (as I have to do it out doors) but she-who-must-be-obeyed decided she wanted to sell the house so most of the good weather lost in the pursuit of domestic bliss!!. If I don't get some bodies painted soon then I won't be doing much over winter. I'm going to have to get the 2 Group C bodies painted before June otherwise I'll have to wait until October or later before I get underway.

Kia ora, Mark "Time flies like the wind, fruit flies like bananas"
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Posted by SeaBee on Monday, April 7, 2008 10:22 AM

Now THAT's taking me back to our previous Rally GB, Mark! Spending some time talking rugby and cricket! Wink [;)] TBH, I am not a Bulls fan. I "hate" to admit it, but I cheer for the Stormers. Think the Bulls have ust been very slow to adapt to the ELV's and they've missed the locks (Bakkies and "Big Vic"). Crusaders... man, they are looking absolutely awesome! They are the form team and it will be a travesty if they don't win the S14, unless something horrible (other than Carter's injury) happens in the 2nd half of the competition. How is Carter, btw - I have somehow missed details of his injury and how long he'll be out for. Yes, winter is upon us...  

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Posted by nicholma on Tuesday, April 8, 2008 3:43 AM
High ankle strain so he's on crutches and probably out for 4-6 weeks.
Kia ora, Mark "Time flies like the wind, fruit flies like bananas"
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Posted by kenjitak on Tuesday, April 8, 2008 12:26 PM
Uhh, just because I suggested Le Mans dates for the end date doesn't necessarily mean we have to wait for this year's Le Mans for the start date, does it?

Ken

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Posted by SeaBee on Tuesday, April 8, 2008 1:25 PM

Kenjitak... I like your thinking! How about we get this one started soonish (everybody can start when they get around to it) and finish it at LM '09...?

 

Mark - with medical technology nowayday, I won't be surprised if he's back earlier rather than later. Though he's such an asset to any team, I'm sure they won't rush him.  

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Tuesday, April 8, 2008 2:12 PM
Wow so much pressure!!!! April 15th it is ??? and lets start by telling what models are going to built......

Rules

1. Has to be a start to finish type race car. No WRC or Rally type cars
2. History of the car
3. Pictures of your WIP (if you can)
4. HAVE FUN!!!

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Posted by Dr. Faust on Tuesday, April 8, 2008 2:47 PM
Dustin, I have a Tamiya Sauber C9 would that fit in here? I also have a 1/9 Protar Yamaha 660 Tenere. Are motorcycles OK? I think it was a Paris to Dakar entry?

Just build it (and post pics when youre done)

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Tuesday, April 8, 2008 3:21 PM
Dr.................the C9 raced in 87,88,89 LeMans so its in as for the moto bike I think that one would fit better in the WRC/Rally GB however it seems like the Paris to Dakar Rally is a N-B tweener so lets see what the group thinks??

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Posted by Dr. Faust on Tuesday, April 8, 2008 3:47 PM
No, thats OK! Looks like I may have an entry for both GB"S thenThumbs Up [tup]

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Thursday, April 10, 2008 10:12 AM

Ok I guess Ill start this off. Were five days away from the start of that GB and it looks like its going to be a smaller build but thats ok. Autos just don't seem to have as big a following as Armor and Planes but that ok also.

The car that Im interring in this GB is Model Factory Hiro's 2007 DBR9. This is a MM kit and is going to be my real first a temp at a kit like this.

For the first time since 1959, Aston Martin has triumphed at Le Mans. The winning Aston Martin Racing with InterContinental Hotels & Resorts DBR9 numbered 009 was driven to GT1 class victory and a remarkable fifth overall by David Brabham, Rickard Rydell and Darren Turner after 24 hours of non-stop competition, characterised by changeable conditions and several safety car periodsThe bad weather was in evidence right from the start of the first qualifying session, where the AMR Larbre Competition 008 DBR9 claimed pole position before going on to finish third in the actual race. Three of the top four spots were claimed by Aston Martin and if it had not been for two off's by the 007 car the DBR9's would have swept the GT1 classPhotobucket
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Posted by SeaBee on Friday, April 11, 2008 12:36 AM

Dustin, are we keeping it here or are you going to move it to the GB section?

While we're talking - off this topic - but are you decalling the Kawasaki yet? I've just found they've outdone themselves on the decal sheets. The one I had previously that was this hard to move, was the Stoner RC211V. However, a quick heads-up that you will really struggle to get the decals off from the backing sheet unless the water is quite hot. Once off, they are stunning! Maybe it's just my sheet - but just to take note...

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Friday, April 11, 2008 11:43 AM
i thought about leaving it here because all the car guys are here. Thanks for the tip on the Ninja but Im not there yet.
Ive got some things to take care of so do you think you could help run this GB?? I mean really nothing to do but I have to move my modeling area and I dont know how fast i can get the new area set up.

Dustin

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Posted by NucMedTech on Sunday, April 13, 2008 9:47 PM

Dustin,

I'm going to enter with the Nissan R390 GT1, by Tamiya. Out of the three that entered the '97 Le mans 2 did not finish. The third car, No. 23,  finished a "respectible" 12 place over-all.

Along side of this I may attempt to build the Corvette C6-R winner of the 2005 Le mans GT-1.

I'll post pictures and try to get more info as we go along.

Quick question, What are MM kits and where do you find them?

-StephenCowboy [C):-)]

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Posted by SeaBee on Monday, April 14, 2008 1:53 AM
Stephen - MM kits is multimedia kits. Resin, metal and photo-etched parts instead of plastic. Most popular makes are Studio 27 and Model Factory Hiro, with Tameo being most popular on the 43rd scale. You get them at most online hobby shops. Your wallet hates it.

Dustin - will help out whereever I can. Don't know what is involved, but just shout! You've done a great job in getting us started! Let me know, will pitch in anytime.
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Posted by NucMedTech on Monday, April 14, 2008 8:04 AM
Thanks for the info SeaBee. I was thinking of MM as a manufacturer instead of a kit type, brain was kind of tired.

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Posted by kenjitak on Monday, April 14, 2008 10:11 AM

I think we should move this to the GB section. Here, we're preaching to the choir. If we move over there we may reach some of those hard-core air-armor-sea guys who might click on a car GB by accident!Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Count me in on this build for sure. Just need to decide what to build. 

Ken

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Posted by kenjitak on Monday, April 14, 2008 11:27 PM

I've decided I'm in on this with a 1/24 Historic Racing Miniatures Cobra Daytona Coupe.

 

The Cobra Daytona Coupe was developed by Pete Brock in less than 90 days and nearly won the 1964 FIA World Manufacturer's Championship. In 1965, the Cobra Daytona coupe succeeded and Shelby American became the first US manufacturer to win the FIA World Manufacturer's Championship.

I may also do a second build, either a 1/24 Thunder Valley conversion of a Fujimi 68-69 Gulf GT40 or the 1/24 Le Mans Miniatures 68-69  Gulf GT40.

 

In 1968, Ford pulled out of endurance racing after winning Le Mans in 66 and 67 with the 427 Mk II's and Mark IV's when new rules eliminated the 427's from competition in favor of smaller cars. However, the original Mark I GT40 was still eligible to race since it had a smaller 5 liter engine and sufficient numbers had been built. Equipped with Gurney-Weslake heads on a 5 liter Ford small block, the Gulf blue and orange GT40's proved to be competitive afterall, so competitive that the same car, chassis #1075, won Le Mans in 1968 and again in 1969; becoming the first car (and maybe the only one?) to win Le Mans 2 years in a row! The original Mark I which had never won at Le Mans got a another chance and made the most of it!

Ken

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Posted by SeaBee on Thursday, April 17, 2008 10:07 PM

Kenjitak - those are two awesome-looking cars! Looking forward to seeing them get built!

I will get my entry in this weekend, but first I need O/T help! Dustin, I posted this in the MotoGP GB as well, but no answer yet. You're also building the Kawasakie, so can you maybe help? In applying decals, I have cut the number away from above one decal - can you please tell me what the decal number is to save me from guessing! It's a small rectangular black piece, right at the bottom of the sheet, ext to the no 15 decal - think it's to the left. Would appreciate it!

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Posted by SeaBee on Wednesday, April 23, 2008 5:47 AM
The long-awaited reintroduction of Aston Martin to Le Mans was a truly stunning car - the DBR9. On June 18-19 2005, the DBR9 is the first Aston Martin to compete at Le Mans for 16 years.

For most of the race they battled with the Corvettes at the front of GT1 class. With 22 hours gone, both cars hit trouble. Car 58 first had fuel problems (is rumoured to have run out of fuel...) Car 59 started having serious cooling problems shortly after that. The car was taken into the pits and only reappeared to complete a final lap just before 4.00pm on the Sunday. Despite being off the track for an hour and a half, car 59 completes 333 laps to finish 9th overall and 3rd in the GT1 class.

I will be doing car 59 - not only because of this succes, but also because... well, it was the first one of the two I saw and the yellow trimming just stood out so much that the 58 looked bland after that! And it's just the way I remember the car. Dustin allready posted pics of the kit - ours will be very similar, both doing the Model Factory Hiro kit of the cars, mine 2005 and his 2007.

Progress: Started yesterday and did some very loose fitting of some cockpit elements. All fits looked nice. Wanted to do a full mock build-up of the roll cage. Thusfar only managed one of the crossbeams after doing some test-fitting. Soon found that this may turn out to be the hardest part of the build! With the WM parts having been bend somewhat (special thanks to all postal employees involved!) and the holes never being the right size, it took some doing to position the side cages correctly, I then added the top Z-bar... and decided to do it with CA! With a bugger that, I'm not re-building this whole thing if it's not needed, the decision was made. Hopefull I can insert the other two X-beams from below. The only part CA'ed was the top Z-bar to the two side bars, they were themselves just placed in the correct holes and the whole cage as is can be removed and worked on from below. That's the theory... Whistling [:-^]
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Posted by williamsfw28 on Saturday, April 26, 2008 4:37 PM
 Hey guys glad to see the group is starting. I have some bad news. Do to a wierd family deal Ive had to relocate with my kids to MO from WI. Not going to go in to details but it really shocket me and my kids are heart broken. So my building is going to be slowed for a bit so i can take care of them and get them through all of this. In the long run were going to be better off but its going to take some time. I dont want to dump on the group Ill stay up to speed with whats going on but but i also need to get my head staight.  I really can pick em

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Posted by corvettemike on Saturday, April 26, 2008 6:18 PM

Does it have to be unstarted to join in???? I have a 12hrs of Sebring Corvette C6R from 2007 that's only about 20% complete at the most... None of the chassis is built yet, the wheels are just slid under the shell. Here's some pics in case you need them to decide on weather to let me in or not....

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Posted by SeaBee on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 1:54 PM

Mike, we're not an exclusive club! We're here to relax, hang out and enjoy the hobby and ee learn from each other as we go along. So feel free at any stage to join in, the more the merrier! Well, that's my feelings, anyway. Looks like you're off to a good start there!

Hey Dustin, sorry to hear. Best of luck - hope you get things sorted. And best wishes esp. with the kids.

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 2:58 PM
Thanks Sea where going to be fine. And I get started on the DBR9 soon its calling me. Thanks again buddy.

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Posted by corvettemike on Tuesday, April 29, 2008 7:44 PM
 SeaBee wrote:

Mike, we're not an exclusive club! We're here to relax, hang out and enjoy the hobby and ee learn from each other as we go along. So feel free at any stage to join in, the more the merrier! Well, that's my feelings, anyway. Looks like you're off to a good start there!

Hey Dustin, sorry to hear. Best of luck - hope you get things sorted. And best wishes esp. with the kids.

Just wanted to make sure, some of these things have rules about "must be unstarted" or whatever.....I'll get some work done sooner or later, I'm in three GB's right now and I still have a Bradley to finish.

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Posted by bobbaily on Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:06 PM

Dustin-sorry to hear about your situation.  Will keep you in my prayers.  Hope you get settled back in soon.

Question for the group.  I'm thinking about converting the 'Stars & Stipes' Corvette to the NART Corvette, LeMans 1972.  However, the kit comes with treaded tires.  Were treaded tires still used in 1972 or were slicks standard at that point?  And if so, does anyone know of a aftermarket source for racing slicks (1/24 or 1/25th...I forget), front & rears (different size) at a 'reasonable' price.  I add this because I found a set,

 http://www.reliableresin.com/rrpt007.html

 but I just don't want to pay $20.00.

 

Bob

 

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Posted by SeaBee on Sunday, May 4, 2008 12:54 PM

Bob, sorry but I can't help there. Not ignoring your question!

This rollcage was a bit of a mission! (Dustin take note!) The build is done and it looks okay. But it took quite a while and a bit of fitting and refitting and trial and error - quite a couple of those! Blush [:I] Anyways, I even switched from superglue (CA glue) to epoxy in the process, finding the latter to be much more helpfull. The gap-filling properties also helped a bit, as you can imagine with a white-metal roll-cage.

What I did in the end was to put M18 in and to prepare the body for the side cages, made sure they dry-fitted properly.  Found that trying to fully add one of the pieces just caused grief, so what I did in the end was to attach all three other parts to the one side, then later (today only!) to the other side. A slight bend here and there was helpfull... So now all seems to be okay and onto the next issue - the fit of the body on the chassis. Mine also not perfect, but saw and easy remedy - looks like mine's supports on the front are just a bit too long, slightly lfting the body of the floor.

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Sunday, May 4, 2008 1:24 PM

Sea,

 

   I know what your talking about with the cage.  Its not the most fun I would have to say but Im going to give it another shot in a few days.  Part of me is dieing to get going on it just havent had the time.  Post some pics if you can of the cage so I see whats going on. that is if you can

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Posted by NucMedTech on Sunday, May 4, 2008 9:59 PM
Sorry Bob, with my limited resources, I can't help you out. I'll keep trying on the web to see if I can find anything.Cowboy [C):-)]

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Posted by bobbaily on Monday, May 5, 2008 6:06 AM

SeaBee & Nuc-thanks.  I can find them, but they are a bit pricy.  Or maybe I'm just cheap.  I'll either go with the kit supplied treaded tires or pick a different kit/project.

Thanks

Bob

 

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Posted by SeaBee on Wednesday, May 7, 2008 3:47 AM

Bob, not paying $20 for slick tyres is not "cheap" - jeez, I just call that common sence!

Dustin, been busy myself and have not touched a model since. Will try to upload a pic tonight, not promising anything. But there's nothing spectacular to see. I've don a bit of "filling in" with the epoxy glue on one spot and there's another which is juuust short, but it is right down on the low end where the rear of the cage enters the body. Overall I may have compromised a little too much on time&patience vs getting a 100% perfect fit. My opinion - once the kit is done, who's going to notice a slight gap on the rollcage way below any eyeline, behind a seat and right in a corner?

Oh yeah - one quick thing. I see nothing about it in my instructions. But note the small hole in die z-bar at the top of the cage. I suspect that's where the rear-view mirror should go in, so I alligned that at the bottom front for the mirror to be attached. If I find that to be wrong, I'll let you know. Or if you have instructions on your version that's a bit clearer... 

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Posted by SeaBee on Saturday, May 10, 2008 4:42 AM

Dustin, at last the images of the rollcage, one from the top and one from the side. You can see where I had to get inventive with the gap-filling properties of the epoxy. Once again, it should be under the roof-line and not actually visible, but will still be smoothed out a bit more before painting!



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Posted by kenjitak on Sunday, May 11, 2008 12:32 AM
Nice work on that cage. Is that resin? It looks , well, extensive!

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Sunday, May 11, 2008 8:42 AM

  Sea,

   Ill take a look at that today.  Thanks for the pictures I would think that its the same roll cage that comes in my kit becuse Im having the same problems.  Ive run into another problem ....the body doesnt sit all the way dont on the lower part of the car. Makes me scratch my head a little

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Posted by SeaBee on Friday, May 16, 2008 3:27 PM

Ken, the cage is white metal. The chassis and body and a couple of other parts are resin.

Dustin, still on the cage - I've read some guys prefer/advise to solder the cage. Won't help me much, but maybe you're handy with it! Onto fit probs of the body. I've found that I have some too. If I turn over the body, the chassis seems to narrow at the backend, leaving spaces basically from where the rear wheel arch  starts till where the bottom fins go over (as seen from below) the rear end. Is yours the same? I don't yet know whether that's a feature or an error. But then, that is just laying the raw pieces down - but I very much doubt whether there's anything still to be inserted in eg the wheel arches...

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Friday, May 16, 2008 4:06 PM
Solder the cage............Um......... thats not going to happen.  The thought of melting no way.  As far as the other problem I havent got that far. Mine is when you put the body on the chassis the body is riding to high so you can see the bottom of the chassis at this point.  Im still working on the cage at this point finding time to do any modeling is proving tough. 

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Posted by SeaBee on Saturday, May 17, 2008 12:01 AM

No, if I push down on mine it's all level (nothing but body shell and chassis).

Here's two pics (excuse the quality) of my problem... does yours fit better or is this the way ot should be?



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Posted by dirtball on Saturday, May 17, 2008 5:26 PM
  Hello all. I`m gona try this one more time. I have a 90`s release of a NICHIMO#MB1202 1/12 LOTUS EUROPA SPECIAL I want to trade for 1/32 aircraft or sell out right. Pics are posted in another auto forum. My brother started to build it, He died 5 yrs. ago and I`ll never finish it for personal reasons. The only part assembled is the engine. All other parts and decals in original sealed bags. Thanks for listening............Harv
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Posted by nicholma on Sunday, May 18, 2008 4:06 AM

I've started on a Lancia LC2, the Gp C car Lancia manufactured in 1983 -1985. The LC2 was powdered by a Ferrari 2.6 litre V8 with twin turbos producing some 620hp. It was designed to take on the dominant Porsche 962 but really wasn't very successful taking only a couple of race wins over that time. The works cars were sponsored by Martini and the 2 other semi-works teams were Jolly Club with Totip sponsorship and Mirabella Racing.

 Protar produced a nice 1/24th kit many years ago and there have been several 1/43rd examples as well. If I recall correctly Tamiya did a r/c version but never a "proper" model. 

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Posted by bobbaily on Sunday, May 18, 2008 3:06 PM

Good to see some activity here.  I've got three Corvettes in the stash and I'm going to start with the Revell Penske '66 L88 Corvette, winner at the 24 Hours of Dayton & 12 Hours of Sebring.  Kit only has a few major short comings-#1-no disc brakes.  I've got some thoughts on scratch building some but does anyone else have a technique (or supplier of aftermarket parts)?

Second area of concern is a lack of seat belts.  Easier fix, but does anyone know if 4 point harnesses were common in 1966 or was it lap belts only?

Thanks

Bob

 

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Posted by nicholma on Monday, May 19, 2008 3:30 AM

Well it was a good weekend on the LC2 front. I thought I had taken a picture of the kit and instructions but I can't find it. However the kits I'm doing are the Grand Prix Models kits of the Mirabella Raing LC2 from 1983 and the Jolly Club's Totip car from 1984 in 1/43rd. These kits were produced in those years as well so they have some age. GPM were known for quality and even 20 yrs later they are still very good. P/E would certainly improve certain aspects but the castings are clean and smooth with plenty of good detail. The rims are nicely turned aluminimum and the spokes cast white metal with no flash, the air valve is also cast in. The tyres are however horrible being just shapeless rounds of soft plastic

I've got both bodies primed and ready for top coats (but one is in Ford Sunset Red and I have no idea what that is - perhaps an orangy red??), the chassises, seats and dash panels on both painted, but only one cockpit completed as I ran out of aluminium paint. The wheels are made and ready for painting. Maybe next weekend if the weather is good I can at least get the Totip body painted.  

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Posted by nicholma on Saturday, May 24, 2008 12:51 AM

Grand Prix Models has some books on sale that some here may be interested in:

Le Mans Annual 2000  10 pounds

Le Mans Annual 2007   29 pounds

Automodelisme Le Mans 2006 and 2007 around 5 pounds each

 www.grandprixmodels.com

 

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Posted by nicholma on Saturday, May 24, 2008 10:31 PM

Had to take some more photos but here are the instructions and the kit parts (except vacform windows and the decals). You can see where I've started undercoating etc.

 

Also spent some time in our storage unit and my reference library and found some good photos of the Mirabella car in Grand Prix International. That must be still one of the best international racing/rallying magazines, shame it was so short lived. Fortunately as they're colour I now have a good idea of the "red' I have to match.

So this is the Mirabella Racing LC2

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Posted by nicholma on Thursday, May 29, 2008 4:32 AM
The weather last weekend was wet so no good for painting the body shells but after peeling the sprouts for a stir fry and then the apples for the apple crumble I was "free" to carry on with detail painting the dash and cockpit areas. All a bit superfluous really as the side windows should be a smoke colour so really none of it will be seen. I have left out the pedals and fire extinquisher as both are well under the dash and definately can't be seen. The long range weather forecast for this weekend is good so fingers crossed the top coats can go on.
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Posted by bobbaily on Thursday, May 29, 2008 6:17 AM

Mark-I hope the weather holds out for you.  Looking forward to seeing some pics.

I picked up the Revell C6R Corvette-will be building it as the 2005 LeMans entry.  I have a couple of potential Corvette builds in the stash-may try to do more than one, schedule/patience permitting.

Bob

 

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Posted by SeaBee on Friday, May 30, 2008 1:13 AM
Hey Bob, good to see you've made your choice! I've had a look at those Corvettes as well - and then thought of my to-do pile and thought better of it. Would like to see one built!

Mark, we're obviously in the same boat - winter is upon us (very late this year over here). Been raining non-stop since Wednesday. And good luck with your boys for tomorrow - don't thing anybody but the Crusaders deserve the trophy this sseason. Mind you, that's what we all said about the Sharks last year - as somebody said, they were the best Super 14 team till injury time of the final! Yeah, I know your guys were rested selectively...

Onto my build progress. Not too much... At least the guys over at AF said my problem aren't as bad and I got some pointers, will look into it on the weekend, time permitting. Pre-fitted the dash and all looks okay. Primered and will start doing the grey and the CF on the "base" of the dash. Saw some other stuff to be added this morning before I can sensibly start CF'ing. Some other parts will be CF'ed and added later, such as the steering column and displays. Will also try to add the other body colour parts onto the body and start getting it ready for painting... whenever! Maybe also do the dry-fitting of the rest of the parts inside the cockpit with the cage - threatened to do that since the cage was done! Allready heard the seat may pose a proble, so the sooner I confirm that, the better. I may seem optimistic, but it seems there won't be any cycling this weekend... Angry [:(!]

Happy building for all over the weekend.
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Posted by 666Irish on Friday, May 30, 2008 5:11 AM

If things get settled down on the homefront, and if I can get some work in on a diorama for a client, I am certainly interested in Joining this build!

I have the 1970 Porsche 917K, raced at Daytona,  just sitting on my shelf, Taunting me!

 

Oh, and if anyone knows where I caould find a model of the McLaren-Elva M3B (known as the M1C in europe), I would be forever indebted!

 

Steve 

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Posted by bobbaily on Friday, May 30, 2008 8:49 AM

Steve-come on in....the water's fine.  Will be nice to get cars from different eras in this build.

SeaBee-hope the weather breaks for you & Mark.  I mostly shoot acrylic indoors, however, I'm finding that for auto builds, spray (Tamiya) gives a much better (smoother) finish.  I just need to remember to move the wife's car out of the garage first.....

Thanks for the input on the Corvette-looks like a fun kit OOB.  However, my goal is to gather parts (in process) to build the 1960 Cunningham Corvette that ran at LeMans (placed 7th overall, 1st in class, I believe).  Will require some scratch building & such, but hopefully I can work on that late 2008/early 2009.

Bob

 

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Posted by nicholma on Saturday, May 31, 2008 6:11 AM
Bobbailey I think I remember being told the latest Tamiya Model Magazine has a multi-page build feature on the CR-6 so might b worth looking out for.
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Posted by nicholma on Saturday, May 31, 2008 6:18 AM

 SeaBee wrote:

 And good luck with your boys for tomorrow - don't think anybody but the Crusaders deserve the trophy this season.

Whose the best then - go the red and blacks, another trophy in the cabinet!Big Smile [:D] Let them think they are championship material by allowing them a slender half time lead then put them away in the 2nd half Big Smile [:D]Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by bobbaily on Saturday, May 31, 2008 8:13 AM

Thanks Mark.  I'll check it out.

There's a wealth of info & pics on the web for a lot of the racing Corvettes...which makes it hard to 'fudge' on a detail..bad case of AMS I guess....Sigh [sigh]

Bob

 

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Posted by nicholma on Monday, June 2, 2008 4:04 AM

The weather was too windy, cold and wet for spraying the bodies outdoors but I did get some other minor stuff done. The chassis/cockpit of one LC2 is complete and the 2nd ready for more detail painting to finish off. The wheels on one also complete. If the weather cooperates next weekend then the bodies of both can be painted and he wings then its just a case of decalling. I was going to just do straight from the box but because it was wet today found myself adding a splitter to one as it raced on occassions so they don't look identical.

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Posted by SeaBee on Wednesday, June 4, 2008 1:51 AM
Whoo-hoo! I got around to test-fitting the cage with the seat and "big box" in place. Those two seems to be the ones causing issues. My box was perfect and the seat just had to move slightly forward. So Dustin, just check yours beforehand, some other guys had issues with left-right allignment of seat and box as well. Admittedly, it was done quite quickly and I'll test it again tonight, but it looked much better than I thought it would end up.

Mark, still wanted to say, that's an awesome-looking car!

Bob, detail is what you want and make of it, not somebody else... I've been much happier with some builds where I have not even cared about too much detail and not bugger up something through trying to get one small piece of detail right, spoiling the end-result. But that's just my feeling!

Into our seconf week of rain. Only stopped for a while over the weekend (can you believe it?!) and I snuck out to get onto the bike! Whistling [:-^]
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Posted by bobbaily on Wednesday, June 4, 2008 6:10 AM

 SeaBee wrote:
.....Bob, detail is what you want and make of it, not somebody else... I've been much happier with some builds where I have not even cared about too much detail and not bugger up something through trying to get one small piece of detail right, spoiling the end-result. But that's just my feeling!

SeaBee-Thanks and I couldn't agree more.  The C6R will be 'out of the box'.  The '60 Cunningham Corvette will require some kit bashing and minor 'enhancements' to make a road racer out of it.  Only real difficult issue will be making louvers for the hood....still thinking about that one.  Probably won't start on that kit until early '09.  And I'm actually looking forward to the challenge.  Hopefully I can find the correct paint color for the C6R this weekend @ my LHS.

Glad to hear that you are making progress and got a bike ride in.

Bob

 

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Posted by nicholma on Thursday, June 5, 2008 4:33 AM

 SeaBee wrote:

Into our second week of rain. Only stopped for a while over the weekend (can you believe it?!) and I snuck out to get onto the bike! Whistling [:-^]

Yea know what you mean. Winter has really set in here too - cold, windy and showery. I nipped home today at lunch time because it was sunny with little wind and got the top coat of white (duplicolor) on one but it was just too cold for the Tamiya spray can for the other - actually made a bit of a mess.

Truth be told the real reason for coming home was to put the roll cage back into the race car for a circuit sprint on Sunday. Funnily enough its forecast to rain again on Saturday so rather than do it in the rain (no garage you see) the cage is back in so now its just the belts and seats for Saturday which I can do inbetween showers if they eventuate.

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Posted by SeaBee on Thursday, June 12, 2008 12:46 AM
Long weekend looming, so maybe some time to build... But then somebody showed me a nice new trail last weekend, so if I get the chance, I'll grab the mtb and ride that - and have to get some longer distances in on the road as well.

Still, some progress - allready before the long weekend! Cleaned up a couple of Wm parts. So ready to assemble all the stuff that needs to be on the body before painting it. Was delighted to realise again that the PE parts are rubber-backed and that will take a few frustrating moments out of the way! Dashboard painted black and grey, ready for some CF. I decided the "button-panel" would be too complex to CF with all those button on it. Will therefore paint it, trying to simulate CF. Once closed up, I don't think it will be all that visible anyways, but bad Cf decals over all those buttons will catch the eye! My don't over-complicate the details point of view popping up again... Wink [;)]
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Posted by bobbaily on Sunday, June 15, 2008 7:27 PM

Got to watch a few minutes of LeMans over the weekend.  Unfortunatly, I had to wait until after church to check and see if Audi held on and if the Corvette team could pull one out.  Glad that Audi won though.  Maybe next year for Corvette Racing. Still blows my mind that teams can race for 24 hours and be on the same lap.

I got everything primed and painted the chasis & interior today.  Chrome parts will probably need to be stripped and re-painted.  Not sure what to do with the rims though-the plating isn't too heavy on the rims, but they need to be more of an aluminium color.  Might try some clear flat first.

Waiting for my Tamiya Model Magizine to arrive before I do anything more.  Mark-thanks again for the 'heads-up' on the C6R being in the latest issue.  Should be a big help.

Bob

 

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Posted by SeaBee on Tuesday, June 17, 2008 12:33 PM

Censored [censored]... And there I was thinking Le Mans is NEXT weekend!!! Longest night over here, longest day in Europe, being quite close to next weekend. I did not see a minute... that is if it was shown, because it was not well advertised if it was shown. Usually is, though. Darn. Darn-darn-darn....

Oh yeah, congrats to Audi! And all the other diesels for finishing! And I think I read Ferrari made a clean sweep 1234 in one of the classes. And *whoo-hoo* the DBR9 won as well.

Speaking of which, just a quick comment on the build. I drilled out the exhaust a bit for some more feel of depth there. And then started primer. And tonight I ventured into the colour. Compliments to Steve from Hiroboy! Bow [bow] I have not yet done the clear over the base coat, which usually does a lot for his paints, but even so, the colour looks absolutely stunning. Where it is not correct, it was my application. 

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Posted by nicholma on Friday, June 27, 2008 8:22 AM

The last 2 weekends we had a short holiday in South Australia so nothing got done. However earlier this week on my return I got some time to start decalling the 1984 Totip car.Several things immedately became obvious. The instructions state that the decal sheet for this car is the sheet produced for the Italian kit manufacturer HiFi and that there was a small difference in body size so GPM supplied 2 decal sets so there was enough of the Totip stripes for a bit of cut and paste. So when I placed the first side set on the model (before removing from the backing paper) I discovered the GPM body was nearly 7mm longer. Hmmmmm thought I. But it didn't end there. I knew from the photos I'd seen of the 84 car that the rear deck was diferent to the 83 car. The channel between the engine cover and the wheel covering was much more prononced on the 84 car. The strip should have had the green in the channel and the orange on the vertical side of the channel. As I couldn't change the 83 body I modified the decals to fit by cutting off most of the orange part of the stripe. However if the body was shorter on the 84 car then the wing supports would probably also be different and yes they were as the following shows.

However because by making use of the 2 sets of decals it can be corrected

Overall the decals were a bit brittle and the Microsol softener was a bit strong. The decal would suddenly crinkle in places and no amount of teasing and smoothing would work. When dried some of the smaller crinkles did come out. Again it was fortunate 2 sets were supplied because I needed to redo the front left as the crinkling was unsalvagable. But the end result was OK but its definately not a "front of cabinet" model. The window surrounds are black and a decal is supplied for that but its way too small so that will have to be done by hand.

The rear wing is just sitting on the wing supports and not quite in the right position. Hopefully this weekend I'll get it finished. So far just an average model (ignoring the shape and length issues) but typical of what was around 20+ years ago.

 

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Posted by nicholma on Friday, June 27, 2008 8:34 AM

Some months ago I had ordered the 2006 Daytona 24 hr winning Lexus Riley (because it was driven by New Zealander Scott Dixon) by Provence Minatures (the resurrection of the old Provence Moulage/Starter company). It arrived the day we went off on holiday  and will be next in the production line. A fabulous kit with little flash (some feed tags on the underside of the body and chassis) and very sharp detail. Its a multi-media kit mostly in resin with some white metal parts and a p/e rear wing assembly. I can't wait to start. The instructions are below.

  

A build review is in GPM's 4 Small Wheels magazine a couple of issues ago if anyone has access to that publication. Hopefully someone will now produce Scott's Indy car after his 500 win last month.

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Posted by SeaBee on Sunday, June 29, 2008 12:01 AM

Hey Mark, that looks like a great little kit! Can't help you with the 4SW, but keep an eye out, they may catch up to that issue on the free side shortly - usually lag a couple of months behind.

What I can tell you, is to keep an eye out for a place called "Formula models". They bring out indycar kits in 43rd. I am currently doing their 02 Panther Racing Hornish Jr car. Know they did some of the older atrget cars, so maybe there's hope for a future release there... 

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Posted by Bship1969 on Tuesday, July 1, 2008 4:23 PM

May I join your GB? If so, I'm in with the 1:24 McRae/Sainz Ford Focus WRC, if that's okay.

 

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Posted by nicholma on Wednesday, July 2, 2008 2:57 AM
 SeaBee wrote:

What I can tell you, is to keep an eye out for a place called "Formula models". They bring out indycar kits in 43rd.

 Tks Seabee I have heard of Formula Models I'll go looking now. Found the Four Small Wheels and the article doesn't really add anything. The build looks very good. Last Saturday it took me about 5 minutes to prepare the body and chassis for undercoating. No blemishes showed up on the body and the chassis and components are now painted ready for the detail work.

 

Kia ora, Mark "Time flies like the wind, fruit flies like bananas"
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Posted by nicholma on Sunday, July 6, 2008 2:46 AM
Didn't get far this weekend. Started on the vacform sc reen and side windows. Nasty sums it up. They should all fit flush with the body work but the vacform hasn't got a deep enough recess so I've had to trim each window to just in the opening. However the front screen is terrible, its undersize but the worst part is the shape is wrong. Check to photo of the Marabella car reproduced on about page 4 or 5 and see the wonderful side profile. The kit's vacform screen bulges out so doesn't follow the clean lines from the edge of the roof down through the front body work and wrecks the appearance. Almost to the point it isn't worth completing! (but I will). I usually always check the vacform before painting but didn't this time - big mistake.
Kia ora, Mark "Time flies like the wind, fruit flies like bananas"
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Posted by SeaBee on Friday, July 18, 2008 12:56 AM

Slow going on my side! At least finished the other stuff I was working on - only to start new ones! Wink [;)]

On the DBR9 the cage is finished and painted, started working on some of the interior stuff (seat, etc). Also started the semi-painfull job of CF-ing the bottom part of the dash. But no fear, I'll get there...

Keep going Mark!!

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Posted by bobbaily on Friday, July 18, 2008 6:19 AM

Sign - Ditto [#ditto] here....only I haven't completed anything recently.  The Corvette is primed and I need to make a run to the LHS and pick up some Tamiya spray. 

 Also, I received the Tamiya Model Magazine that Mark mentioned earlier(thanks again Mark for the heads up)-WOW-talk about some nice detailing work.  The builder of the Corvette in the TMM took a good kit to a much higer level with some simple detailing.  I'm still going OBB for this one, but I may have to add a C6R to my stash and maybe try to duplicate some the the upgrades shown in the mag.

Also saw where one of my F1 heros, Nigel Mansell, and his boys are looking at entering the ALMS series.  For those interested:

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/69202

Cheers

Bob

 

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Posted by SeaBee on Saturday, July 19, 2008 12:45 AM
Talk about nicknames going to your head - and naming your son Leo! Big Smile [:D] Had to smile at that...
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Posted by bobbaily on Saturday, July 19, 2008 10:04 AM
Yeah SeaBee-Mansell was ruling in F1 when my....errr...our son was born, but my wife wouldn't let me name him 'Nigel".  Go figure.....

Bob

 

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Sunday, November 30, 2008 2:58 PM
ok this GB is going to die if something isnt done so Im going to try and bring it back. I seems every-time I start one of these things my life falls apart but darn it Im going to try and fight back....

So how have you all been?? Sea I got some questions for you with this DBR...

So do we save this or do we let it die and start something new ??? after that F1 season Im thinking a F1 GB is in order

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Posted by bobbaily on Monday, December 1, 2008 11:21 AM

Good to see some life here Dustin.  I've got the Corvette painted & decaled but since then it's been pushed to the back of the list.  Hoping to work on it some over the Christmas holidays.  As far as an F1 GB, I did snag Mansell's early Ferrari off of e-Bay some time ago.......Whistling [:-^] 

 

Bob

 

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Monday, December 1, 2008 3:45 PM
yes I think a F1 would be fun but these darn car Gb seem to die and i dont know why.... another Gb I was thinking about was ..


Turn it in to a Race Car GB...

Dustin

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Posted by bobbaily on Tuesday, December 2, 2008 6:00 AM

Dustin-I agree.  It seems that the Auto section of the forums doesn't get as much traffic as the Airplane/Armor sections.  I don't know if posting in the Group Build section would help....maybe most car modelers hang out at other sites.  Now tell me more about your "Turn it to a Race Car GB"...

Bob

 

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Tuesday, December 2, 2008 7:53 AM
I really dont know what it is with car builders ?? There is another forum page and I see some of them over here but there's always something going in there. I wish the group builds here would keep going and going. However I do find myself wandering over to armor and the plane forums myself I have plenty of planes and armor sitting in the stash. Dont know what its going to take to get a big GB done in autos..

I was just thinking it might be cool to see some kit bashing. take a car then kit bash it into a race car. Drag, street, oval or even Baja. Kinda swiping the idea from a video game I have and I see some of the guys in the other forum doing it and there all doing a wonderful job at it. I havent put too much into the idea yet... Dont know if i want to really, the last time i did my world went nuts and Im just now starting to sit down and tinker again. Dont know if Im going to get to finish what Ive started for this group build.

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Posted by bobbaily on Tuesday, December 2, 2008 8:35 AM

Dustin-I like the idea.  I was thinking also that your theme would include early rally cars-basically stock vehicles with a roll cage, snow tires (or tyres, depending on your part of the world...), heavy duty shocks and springs and enough candle power to melt lead....

Unfortunatly, I don't have enough of a stash of auto kits/parts to do any kit bashing.  However, I do have the Dick Landy Dodge Dart (drag racer), Penske Corvette (interesting story on the history of that vehicle-picked up at the factory in the dead of winter and driven to the race shop-with no heater!) & the 240z South Africian safari rally car that might fit in, depending on the rules. 

You could always post the proposal-with a broad topic like you've suggested, there may be enough interest to get one going.

Anyway, here are some pics of the Corvette

I need to touch up some of the black but overall I'm happy with the results.  Not perfect, but I'm content.

Bob

 

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Thursday, December 4, 2008 10:51 AM
The Vet looks great.....!!!!

Im just now getting going on the DBR.. Last night it took me over an hour just to get one wheel vent to fit over the front finder... Im going to see what i can get done tonight.
Maybe a WRC GB is a better Idea?

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Posted by bobbaily on Thursday, December 4, 2008 11:14 AM

Hopefully tonight will go a little smoother on the DBR.

As far as a WRC GB, yes, there may be a bit more interest.  The bad thing about the Auto forum is that it is very diverse-some Nascar, some WRC, some drag racers, etc.  The "If it was raced" GB seemed to go well.  One thing I'm finding over in the GB section is that anything longer than 6-7 months tends to fade out.

You can always put a feeler out for a WRC GB.  I do have that 240Z sitting in the stash....

Bob

 

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Posted by lewbud on Saturday, December 6, 2008 9:52 PM

Just saw this one had come back to life.  Did ya'll ever decide on an end date?  If it's far enough off I can get something out of the stash and build it.

Bob,

I saw your comments over in the GB section and thought you didn't do cars cause of the paint jobs.  Looking at your Vette, it looks like you've got no trouble in that department.  How do the C-6R kits compare with the C-5R kits?

Buddy- Those who say there are no stupid questions have never worked in customer service.

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Posted by bobbaily on Sunday, December 7, 2008 6:24 AM

Buddy-Thanks.  Painting cars has gotten easier since I switched to Tamiya spray cans for my auto projects.  Normally, I airbrush acrylic on planes & armor but I really like the results of the Tamiya product.  Of course, I have to use the spray can in the garage, but it's not that hard to pull the car outside.

As far as end dates, I think we were going to conclude with the running of the 2009 Le Mans 24hr.  However, that's up to Dustin.

 

I've not built any of the C-5R kits so I can't comment.  This one looks like it should go together ok.  There is an article in the May 2008 (I think) Tamiya magazine that shows a detailed build of this kit.  The kit has a lot of potential in the right hands.

Bob

 

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Posted by kenjitak on Sunday, December 7, 2008 5:25 PM
Great Vette! Good to see activity here. I see my role as providing activity as the deadline draws near!

Ken

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Friday, December 12, 2008 9:39 AM

The GB is dead I hate to say .....  So were going to try again in the ALL NEW Rally build come one come all...

 

  Sorry guys

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Posted by bobbaily on Friday, December 12, 2008 11:09 AM
Thanks Dustin.  Good luck on the Rally GB.  I'll be watching and hopefully able to jump in.

Bob

 

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Friday, December 12, 2008 1:26 PM
theres cut date to join Bob....  want it to be about having fun

Dustin

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Posted by bobbaily on Friday, December 12, 2008 1:39 PM

I agree.  Hopefully this one will gain enough attention & participation to stay active.

Bob

 

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