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Kitbash, scratchbuild? . . . . . hmmmmm

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  • Member since
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  • From: Minnesota City, Minnesota, U.S.A.
Kitbash, scratchbuild? . . . . . hmmmmm
Posted by FlyItLikeYouStoleIt on Wednesday, April 24, 2013 12:31 PM

I think we need to refine some definitions to describe whether a model is a kitbash, a scratchbuild or something in between, as most examples of either one are something in between. I could see it getting pretty complicated. Something akin to eskimos having over 100 words for "snow". For example: Which term do I apply to my model that uses components from 2 model kits, several toys, some model railroad parts and a bunch of hardware store and junkdrawer stuff? I mean, I built  it from scratch. Some of my materials happened to come from model kits. But alot of it came from other sources, so .......?  Hybrid?

Bill.

On the bench:  Lindberg 1/32 scale 1934 Ford Coupe and a few rescue projects.

In queue:  Tamiya 1/35 Quad Tractor or a scratch build project.

  • Member since
    October 2008
  • From: SE Pennsylvania
Posted by padakr on Wednesday, April 24, 2013 1:21 PM

I think (and I'm not an expert), that if the majority of the model comes from other pieces (e.g. other kits, toys, etc.), it is a "kitbash".  If the majority of the model comes from styrene pieces (e.g. sheet, rods, tubes, etc) or other raw material (say wood or metal) and you do most of the actual shaping, that is a scratchbuilt.

Paul

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    August 2010
  • From: Beaverton, OR
Posted by Ghostrider114 on Wednesday, April 24, 2013 1:32 PM

Yeah, that's my understanding too, Kitbashing is literally combining parts of multiple full kits to make one finished product (I would not count AM as Kitbashing, but if you were to add parts from another regular kit).  Scratch building is to make your own parts out of stock materials, like wood or styrene.

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Posted by Jon_a_its on Thursday, April 25, 2013 6:18 AM

2 cents

Stock = What's in box.

Conversion = Substantially, what's in the box + aftermarket parts/self-made parts to make another mark/version.

Kitbash = One, or more, kits + aftermarket parts/self-made parts to make a substantially different version

Scratchbuilt = Substantial part of kit from self-made parts, with or without aftermarket or donor-kit parts for detailing

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  • Member since
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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Thursday, April 25, 2013 9:48 AM

I can't find my IPMS contest rules any more, but wouldn't they have a definition they use?  At the nats they have scratchbuilt categories.  I know the Manitowac ship show has loosened their rules a bit- they used to require everything except cordage be scratch, but I think they have loosened it a bit. I think things like fasteners and such are always allowed to be purchased parts.  Basically other than for big IPMS shows I guess it is up to contest director to define.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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    July 2012
  • From: Douglas AZ
Posted by littletimmy on Thursday, April 25, 2013 10:18 AM

How about " Scratchbash" ???  

It means some of the model was scratchbuilt and the rest was assembled from multiple kit parts.

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

  • Member since
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  • From: Minnesota City, Minnesota, U.S.A.
Posted by FlyItLikeYouStoleIt on Thursday, April 25, 2013 12:19 PM

See what I mean? Everybody's got their own definitions. I know exactly what some clubs, organizations and other websites use for definitions, but I want us here on FSM to have a language we all agree on. Don't go by the sites glossary for help. It defines scratchbuilt as "built from scratch" .......  Surprise ........... Really?

I've submitted an inquiry to the site for some refining of the defs, so we'll see

Bill.

On the bench:  Lindberg 1/32 scale 1934 Ford Coupe and a few rescue projects.

In queue:  Tamiya 1/35 Quad Tractor or a scratch build project.

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