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  • Member since
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  • From: Colorado
orange and white checks
Posted by StephenLawson on Saturday, November 14, 2009 9:10 AM

Greetings all;

A fellow modeler sent this to me.  Maybe one of you can help with an answer.

". . .As a Landscape Architect I am working on a design for a small airfield/park in Calfornia and need to find out if there was a special symbolism of the red/orange and white checks used around the old airports and what was the significance. I'm sure the checks were for safety reasons, but were they used under air transport regulations, or what. . ?"

 

Stachel...unconfirmed by Armee means unconfirmed!!!!

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  • From: Piedmont Triad, NC (USA)
Posted by oldhooker on Saturday, November 14, 2009 10:21 AM

Hi Stephen,

    The "Follow Me" trucks carried orange & white checkered flags ("Airfield Safety" flag) or had checkered panels on the rear of the vehicles.    

 

 Also, high buildings and water tanks/towers on an airfield (or military installations) were red & white checkered to make them more visible to air traffic.    

Frank

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  • From: Northern California
Posted by jeaton01 on Saturday, November 14, 2009 11:29 AM
These markings are seldom seen at civil airports, I think it is more of a military thing, particularly the buildings.

John

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  • Member since
    August 2005
  • From: Mansfield, TX
Posted by EdGrune on Saturday, November 14, 2009 3:55 PM

 jeaton01 wrote:
These markings are seldom seen at civil airports, I think it is more of a military thing, particularly the buildings.
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Disagree.   The orange & white flag is often seen on construction and other non-resident vehicles on US airports.   The flag is also flown on construction cranes raised in the vicinity of airports.

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  • From: Colorado
Posted by StephenLawson on Sunday, November 15, 2009 5:44 AM
Very cool gents.  I wonder what the provenance of this design was?

 

Stachel...unconfirmed by Armee means unconfirmed!!!!

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  • From: Northern California
Posted by jeaton01 on Sunday, November 15, 2009 12:59 PM
The flag, yes.  But not the building markings on water towers, etc.  They are also on the localizer transmitter building if the field has them, but that is a small structure.  I guess my point is that the large scale checkers are a miltary marking. 

John

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  • Member since
    October 2004
  • From: Colorado
Posted by StephenLawson on Sunday, November 15, 2009 2:24 PM

It makes sense that it originated in the home based military aviation training arena and was adopted by the civilian aviation organizations.  That gives us a time line of about 1919 (or earlier in the USA and Canadian 1916 -17 training camps) thru to present day.  Realistically it could be a (1911-1915)  cross over from France, Great Britain or Italy.  Sort of a landmark tower in foul weather?

If a pilot has to land in foul weather /fog knowing the height of the squares and the standard amount of squares could give him a realistic expectation of ground level. Then the "follow me" flags on the back of vehicles would be a nautral progression as an airfield identification. 

 

Stachel...unconfirmed by Armee means unconfirmed!!!!

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