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Best Acrylic Figure Painting Tutorial Contest By Schnobs & Citadelgrad87

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  • From: clinton twp, michigan
Posted by camo junkie on Sunday, August 16, 2009 9:51 AM
thanks for the vote of confidence f.f. however, my vote for me was more "playful" than anything else. there are ALOT of talented guys here....scott (modelchasm) alone and his abilities still amaze me. not to mention guys like manny (not that he entered...but just saying)and other's. im grateful you guys think im "that good", but being my own worst critic...i think im o.k. at best. Whistling [:-^] the most important thing i think scott and i were trying to accomplish (although i dont know, scott may have been in it for the kit...Laugh [(-D]) was to help you guys become better at what you do. i dont expect everyone to go out there and buy up all kinds of oil paint and enamels and all that. continue with what your working with. if you use enamels and such and want to try my way...its there for you guys. i can assure you, whether you paint ww2 or modern, my techniques will make you a better figure painter (and that's not gloating, that's just what the results will produce). anway, thanks again, for your vote f.f. and (anyone else). Bow [bow]
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Posted by modelchasm on Sunday, August 16, 2009 10:30 AM

I completely agree w/ Camo. I'm just glad/ hope that this helped someone else out w/ a future build.

HOWEVER, b/c BLUF this is a contest .... I'm gonna throw my vote towards Camo's tut. I really enjoyed reading his posting on oils and it was very easy to follow the words w/ the pictures. I think that was the bottom line here, right. Who can post the best tut.!?! I think that if we were basing this on who's figure/ model is better, that would be better done in an online Group Build titled something like FSM's online Model Show/ Contest. After the completion of the GB, the majority could vote the winner in different catagories, etc.

Besides, I think Camo needs more models for his stash anyway .... he's just to humble to say, "Oooo OOooooo, I want the model! Mail it to me! Mail it to me!!!" Laugh [(-D] 

"If you're not scratching, you're not trying!"  -Scott

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Posted by camo junkie on Sunday, August 16, 2009 12:20 PM
that's 3 for me! Big Smile [:D] more models for my stash....SCOTT, my wife would kill me!!!! i have a real nice, friendly guy from new zealand sending me kits via the new york air national guard (long story). Laugh [(-D] i really dont need anymore. please, keep your kit or put a sign out in the yard, "free to good home"!! Wink [;)] not being ungrateful, as i am extremely, but there's just no room!! Smile [:)] now if it was a figure or something small...then maybe...but that's ok!! Whistling [:-^] dont change it...im just kidding! thanks though scott for the vote!
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Posted by Back to the bench on Sunday, August 16, 2009 1:38 PM
Voting on one vs the other is kind of like asking if you would prefer to have a thousand dollars handed to you in 100s or 50sBig Smile [:D], either way we are all big winners due to the generosity of others sharing their skills and experience. But I guess I will cast a vote for modelchasm partially due to his high quality photos. Those are really helpful to guys like me who learn from pictures and cartoons more effectively than any other method. It is difficult to get proper lighting, focus and depth of field when working that close with a camera, very nicely done. But as I said the info contributed by camo and all the others is very good, very appreciated and far better than anything that I am capable of. Thanks to all for helping me start feeling that maybe painting figures well is something that I can actually learn! 

Gil

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Posted by modelchasm on Sunday, August 16, 2009 3:50 PM
Thanks, Gil. Glad we could help you start thinkin' about figures!

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Posted by camo junkie on Sunday, August 16, 2009 8:00 PM
awe man....shot down because of my lousy camera. Laugh [(-D] oh well, cant win them all. but hey  scott's worthy too!! (even if he over did the green on his camo....hahaha j/k scott, those are your words and i never even noticed until you pointed it out!!)Big Smile [:D] btw, f.f. says he could use the kit...send it to him. he's young and needs more kits.Wink [;)]
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Posted by Schnobs on Sunday, August 16, 2009 10:10 PM

I will have to vote for Scott as well I was very impressed with his writing style and skillset.

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Posted by camo junkie on Sunday, August 16, 2009 10:18 PM
shnobs...booo, go home drunkie!!! what do you know....booooo!! Laugh [(-D] didnt bother to think it could be a tie scott!!! im sure acrylics will win in the end as i said...they seem to be the norm anyway....boooooooooo!!! Big Smile [:D] hey, so long as one person can look at my tut and say...yes i can do that then produce their best figure to date....im happy!!!!!
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Posted by Back to the bench on Sunday, August 16, 2009 11:24 PM
In the future I would like to give both acrylics and oils a try since they can both clearly be used to great effect and both have their own unique pros and cons. It seems kinda like the preference of a musician for a particular brand of instrument (Stratocaster vs Les Paul for instance). There are virtuoso performances with each, it is largely a choice of style and preference. Hmmm, music, there is one more thing I suck at Sigh [sigh] Oh well I can turn on the radio or get a big charge out of looking at ya'lls work, life is goodSmile [:)] Just out of curiosity, how long have cammo and modelchasm been pursuing the art of figure painting (and I do consider it an art).

Gil

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Posted by camo junkie on Monday, August 17, 2009 7:49 AM

you are very right gil on every aspect of what you said in regards to oils and acrylics. i like to tease scott (and everyone else) who use acrylics 1) just because its fun 2) i used to use them so i feel i can...they know im joking (i hope). Whistling [:-^] as far as how long i've been figure painting, has to be close to 20 years now. most of that time was spent searching/researching on "how to" books etc. everytime i looked at other people's work i would say..."i wish i could do that"! then after awhile i was able to. that's y i wanted to get this tut out there and help you guys so you werent spending the years on it like i was!!! it isnt that hard (really!!) but i understand most peoples apprehension about it. my advice, dive right in, use these tut's to your advantage and try try try. doesnt matter what era you paint, scott and i tut will help you. anyway, blah, blah, blah...that's my "story"! Wink [;)]

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Posted by modelchasm on Monday, August 17, 2009 10:03 AM

I just sit here and wonder what type of sleep-aid medication Camo takes at night that gives him the insight and ablility to write such thoughts in the morning? .... HAHAHHAHA Laugh [(-D] ....

I always know that you're kidding. You and I are just the same, almost as if we were seperated at birth .... Shock [:O], HEY! You wouldn't happen to have half of a medalion on a chain that you wear for reasons unknown to you, or have the numbers "1 of 2" tatooed on your butt? (I have "2 of 2".) Big Smile [:D]

As for me and my modeling days ..... I've been building models, mostly WWII aircraft since I was about 7 or 8. The hobby took a nose-dive when I realized that there were women in the world, or better yet when they realized I was here. I picked it back up late in high school b/c I ended up living w/ my grandparents during my senior year and I got to learn a lot about my GF's service in the pacific (I had no idea what he did prior to that). He passed away soon after I moved to college. I worked here and there during school, but 3 years into it, I enlisted in to the Army and modeling ground to a halt. I didn't get back to school or modeling for another 4 years. After graduating and commissioning, Army schools kept me pretty busy, so most modelling was done w/ smaller kits like the German Pak 40, etc. Then the deployments started rolling in. Tried to do some modeling there, but Chip n Dales isn't their thing ... ok, bad joke. Tried modeling while deployed but when you get excited about getting the mold seams off "this month", things go pretty slow and you don't learn much. Honestly, I had never really messed w/ figures, except for maybe a pilot here and there that was locked up in a cockpit. I always thought that models should be build static and for display. For some reason during my last "vacation", I took pictures like no tomorrow. And after coming home and scrolling through them, I realized how much "life" there was to model. I decided to give real figure modeling a shot. (IMO, when you get up to 120mm, then the figure becomes the focus, not the tank or AC that he's standing next to.) Since then, I've probably completed 3-4 figs, was never to happy or impressed w/ them, and honestly the first 1 or 2 got hacked back up and reused somewhere else. "Flash Out" and my 120mm SF figure were really the first two figs that I've been proud of. All in all, I'd say that I've been modeling for about 7-8 years total, w/ about the last 2 years being almost strictly figures.

I'm still at the point where research and learning take up most of my time. Right now, I've been trying to get more "well rounded" again by working on my MH-6 and my HMMWV builds. But, like I said before, I'm just glad that I can share what I've learned thus far .... and that it maybe helps instead of hinders.

"If you're not scratching, you're not trying!"  -Scott

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Posted by camo junkie on Monday, August 17, 2009 12:55 PM

oh my god scott....he asked us about our figure painting not our life stories!!!!!! blah blah blah!!! Laugh [(-D] j/k bud! separated at birth and about 9 years apart!!! Whistling [:-^] the medalion... Shock [:O] but i thought....i thought I was the only one.... Laugh [(-D]

BTW, DO WE HAVE A WINNER FOR THIS THING YET OR WHAT????? C'MON GUYS...GET THIS PARTY STARTED ALREADY!!! Party [party]

 

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Posted by figure freak on Monday, August 17, 2009 1:56 PM
Sign - Ditto [#ditto]and nice autobiography scott lol just kidding
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Posted by modelchasm on Monday, August 17, 2009 2:19 PM

 figure freak wrote:
Sign - Ditto [#ditto]and nice autobiography scott lol just kidding

... Hey, you guys asked ... and I was bored.

"If you're not scratching, you're not trying!"  -Scott

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Posted by camo junkie on Monday, August 17, 2009 9:07 PM
scott, how can you be bored with all those projects going???? Whistling [:-^] hey, i get it and maybe just a break away will clear the cobb webs! Wink [;)]
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Posted by Back to the bench on Monday, August 17, 2009 10:37 PM
Thanks for the info and background as well. I always find it interesting and encouraging to see where other modelers came from and how they got to where they are. That is one thing I enjoy about this hobby is the varied backgrounds and interests of the participants. Once in awhile a technology like the internet comes along that allows a hobby or community to grow in some really amazing ways! For a beginning figure painter do you have any opinions as to which is might be a more productive scale to learn on? I am considering 1:35 and 120mm. It seems that the larger scale might be a little easier to develop the fine motor skills on.

Gil

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Posted by camo junkie on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 7:13 AM
well, the larger scale is bigger...which also means bigger mistakes. they're more detailed (especially the resin ones). they have alot more detail that you cant hide as well either. Whistling [:-^]personally, i think you shoud try and get the 1:35 first. there are plenty of cheap figures out there that you can "practice" on. however, its up 2 you. that's how i started, but that's me. doesnt matter though, if you can do one you can do them all, unless your me and its 1:72 then it just gets too small for my tastes!! Banged Head [banghead]
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Posted by modelchasm on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 7:48 AM

I have to agree w/ Camo on this one. If you want to get 120mm figs to practice on, I don't think that one would hurt. Just keep repainting it. However, when you can get 4-5 or 6 1/35 figures for the same price as 1x 120mm .... I think you see our point.

In the end, its up to you, and either way isn't wrong. Just remember the larger the scale, the more detail. If you're just starting out and learning along the way, 120mm might get a little frustrating.

"If you're not scratching, you're not trying!"  -Scott

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Posted by camo junkie on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:17 AM
 modelchasm wrote:

I have to agree w/ Camo on this one.

wow, hell hath freezeth over!!! Sad [:(] Laugh [(-D]

btw, IS THERE A WINNER YET??????????????

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Posted by modelchasm on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:37 AM
WOW! HARSH!!!! If it makes you feel better and 'rounds out your world ... I hate you, and disagree w/ everything that you say. Big Smile [:D] HAHA!!!

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Posted by camo junkie on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:42 AM

hate is so strong scott!!! at least tell me my skills are better than yoours or something (which ISNT the case)!! Laugh [(-D] i figured you'd like that though!! Wink [;)]

btw, IS THERE A WINNER YET????????? i really dont care, now its just a matter of it being fun!!

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Posted by modelchasm on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 11:18 AM

OH CRAP!!!!! I have angered the model god, Camojunkie!!!!!

Oh please, lord of oil and enamel, please except this acrylic sacrifice in honor of your unsurpassable modeling skills ....

 

Shamons of ye ol' figure painting contest, let you votes cast so that lord Camo-lot will win the contest (unless you think mine is better ...).

Camo is great. Camo is good. Let us thank him for our food. Amen ... for resin ...

and acrylics ... but mostly for chocolate ... and Coca Cola slurpies.

"If you're not scratching, you're not trying!"  -Scott

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Posted by camo junkie on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:09 PM
ok, now im starting to think your being mean!!!! Wink [;)] besides, i wouldnt want an acrylic sacrifice anyway! Yuck [yuck] ooohh...slurpie sounds good right now. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg] i'm going back to painting...where im wanted and loved!!! Yuck [yuck]
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Posted by modelchasm on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:22 PM

Laugh [(-D] ... You're a good sport! ... Running out for a slurpie now cause I can't stop thinking about it!!!!

 

"If you're not scratching, you're not trying!"  -Scott

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Posted by camo junkie on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:22 PM
i know my throats all scratchy and raw and screaming for one!!! good thing there's a store at the corner!!!! Party [party]
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Posted by Back to the bench on Tuesday, August 18, 2009 10:42 PM

OK, points well taken. I noticed the other day that our local Hobby Lobby had Tamiya 1:35 figures for something like 40% off (so does that mean they are missing most of the bottom half Confused [%-)]). Sorry that was really bad. Our local hobby shop also carries a pretty good selection of 1:35 figures so I will head down that path (eventually). I still have a 1:144 scale F4 that I am trying to finish and place in a very small vignette for a co-worker who was a wild weasle pilot in the gulf war. I am realizing that a few of the things that appeal to me about figures are...

Not a lot of investment for a lot of practice and more challenge than I could meet in a lifetime (especially if I heed the good 1:35) advice.

Not much space required to display them or store them.

And I love to stare at a well done historical figure of any kind. It really gets my mind to thinking about what transpired in the real world at that time for the individual that is being depicted.

Of course I can already see that as the skills progress the urge for larger displays and complex diaromas become the "bug light" for the poor unsuspecting modeler. 

Gil

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Posted by camo junkie on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 6:52 AM
 Back to the bench wrote:

Of course I can already see that as the skills progress the urge for larger displays and complex diaromas become the "bug light" for the poor unsuspecting modeler. 

no, not necessarily. that depends on the individual. most modeler's prefer to keep things simlpe.

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Posted by modelchasm on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 7:37 AM
You get a "bug" every now and then, but (at least for me) I always go back to doing "simple" figures. But, as with everything .... its all personal preference.

"If you're not scratching, you're not trying!"  -Scott

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Posted by camo junkie on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 8:44 AM
especially if its a "frozen coke" bug!! Wink [;)]
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Posted by modelchasm on Wednesday, August 19, 2009 9:47 AM

Awww!!!! Not AGAIN!!!! .... Gotta run out to the corner store ...

(you know you want one too!)

"If you're not scratching, you're not trying!"  -Scott

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