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Zvezda Dog Tank Hunters WIP- update 4/4/12

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, April 6, 2012 2:13 PM

Black Eye I know how you feel. I have several figure sets that stalled in painting when I moved last summer. Still trying to get caught up on my backlog...

 

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, April 5, 2012 9:57 PM

Hey SP, those are pretty cool! Reminds me I started a post on some ROK figures over two years ago myself and they're still sitting under the workbench Embarrassed

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, April 5, 2012 4:52 PM

Here are a few more shots of how they look now...

Any suggstions or feedback?

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, April 4, 2012 6:14 PM

Wow, I did not realize that this had been stalled for nearly two years. I started doing the final work on these in recent weeks and they are now almost finished.

Only this pic of this pair came out good

My favorite pose of the set

and the non action pose

I still want to make the handlers faces a little more scruffy and touch up the dogs a bit.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by jetmodeler on Sunday, May 23, 2010 10:39 AM

They're looking great so far.Yes

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, May 21, 2010 10:03 PM

Today I had finished the base coat of flesh and Vallejo Khaki for the uniforms. I tried Polly Scale Brown Drab PC-10 (a RFC WWI color) for the steel pots as a base color but it is bit too light for what I want. More pics will be posted as progress is made. There is quite a bit to go here.

 

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by styrenegyrene on Saturday, May 15, 2010 4:33 PM

I've read about a zillion notes in these forums over the years, and have been consistently impressed by one thing:  the spirit of honoring the subjects that is universal. among the modelers.  If a dio of the Light Brigade is acceptable because it honors human character, who could anyone see anything different in a dio of war dogs?  Some folks spend 'way too much time looking for something to bellyache about.

Similar subject:  In 1862 - during the War of Northern Aggression - Federal soldiers tried to send several mules into the Confederate camp below Val Verde ford, on the Rio Grande.  The mules were loaded with 12 pdr howitzer shells.  The fuses were lit and the mules shooed toward the Rebs.  The mules, being smarter than expected, realized those Rebs were about ready to start eating mules!  They turned around and started following the Yanks back to home and oats.  It turned into a quite a footrace - until the shells went off.

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Posted by Robh22 on Monday, May 3, 2010 12:59 AM

I'm afraid I'm one of those people who feel strongly in the dog's favor. I know how I too would fight for the life of my pet. I was reading on a military site that supposedly, the dogs would be trained to drop the load (no pun intended :p) and race back before the big boom. Of course, it rarely worked out that way and the dog would be killed along with the tank. 

I do however, like the figures and from what I can see, they look nicely made. I too would really love to see in progress pictures. Big Smile

 

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Posted by New Hampshire on Sunday, May 2, 2010 4:37 PM

the doog

UGH!

I give you credit for being able to do these figures---I couldn't even attempt them., knowing the history of these cruel commando's. Crying

They shoulda used cats...Devil   ....lol

Knowing Stalin I am surprised he did not convince the average foot soldier to do it.  "For the Motherland!"  Had to be a better outcome than 40 more years farming on a steppe Wink

Brian

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Posted by *INDY on Sunday, May 2, 2010 9:57 AM

I've got 1 cat & 1 dog and though they love me, i doubt seriously either of them would cooperate long enough to blow up a panzer for me  Stick out tongue

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Posted by SuppressionFire on Sunday, May 2, 2010 8:20 AM

stikpusher

I hear ya... I can think of many critters I would rather see go boom than a dog. But none of them listen to humans very well.

I too am not a cat lover, in fact I am deathly allergic to there dander. Being independent companions perhaps the best delivery would be a Cat-a-pullit or Trebuchet?

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/razordws/GB%20Badges/WMIIIGBsmall.jpg

 

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, May 2, 2010 4:08 AM

I hear ya... I can think of many critters I would rather see go boom than a dog. But none of them listen to humans very well.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by the doog on Saturday, May 1, 2010 10:21 PM

UGH!

I give you credit for being able to do these figures---I couldn't even attempt them., knowing the history of these cruel commando's. Crying

They shoulda used cats...Devil   ....lol

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Posted by Boomerang on Thursday, April 29, 2010 3:54 AM

stikpusher

Boomer that diorama is beautiful. I love how the dog is just trotting allong and al the Germans are in various states of reaction. Which one is Manny? Wink

SF, the Zvezda dogs do indeed have the tilt stick on top. Look closely at each dog on this pic here. I thought they might be too thick when I saw them at first. I figured it would be more like the tilt rod on the AT mines I once trained upon. But after reading up on these dogs, the little stick looks right.

I do want to do a diorama, but since these handlers are in the padded winter uniforms with the felt boots, a winter scene like somewhere near the German advance finally being halted in the snows outside Moscow in late 1941 is what I have in mind.

But that spring scene of the lone dog is wow!Bow Down

    Hey fellas, glad you liked it. Took me ages to find it. I have been looking for it since this thread started....Stick out tongue. I had the image of the dio in my head, i just couldn't remeber where i had seen it....lmao

Stikpusher....  lol....you didn't see the second dog? I guess that's exactll what the Russians were hoping would happen for the Geramns...Wink

                           It is a great dio and the builder has captured that precise moment when the Germans are reacting to the threat. Some have obviously comprehended what is happening and are taking action and some are still in a state of..... WTF!!?

SF....   the dogs in the dio i linked you to do have the little trigger sticks. If you go and look at the photo that shows just the dog you can clearly see the stick. It even has a little spring going from the stick to the trigger....a nice little detail...

INDY....   hey mate, i am not sure this is quite the best thing i have ever done....LOL!......and sorry.....i can't tell you about that on here...Whistling. I am glad you liked the link though. I agree, they are some of the best dios i have ever come across.

             For all you good fellas, here are links to two other websites with other awesome and inspirational dios that i have discovered. I check these sites out frequently for new content....enjoy!!!

             http://www.diorama.ru/         (you can switch this one to english text. It's in the top right corner)

             http://homepage.ntlworld.com/rs_wells/Index.htm

 

 Boomer...Australia

            

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Posted by *INDY on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 10:39 PM

Boomerang!

Man-thats like the best thing you ever did--pointing out that site. thanks for that. That is the best bunch of Dio's I've seen in one place since Missing Lynx ! Fantastic work The CZ modellers just seem to have a general high standard.Excellent~!

"Well...you gunna pull them pistols, or just whistle Dixie?"

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, April 28, 2010 8:45 PM

I completely missed the second dog until you pointed it out SF.

Well here they are- primed as of this afternoon. Tomorrow I can start the painting.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by SuppressionFire on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 7:01 PM

But that spring scene of the lone dog is wow!Bow Down

Yes it is a excellent diorama, the viewers focus is directed at the dog advancing on the left as the soldiers are alerted to its threat. The dynamic part of the scene is the other dog sneaking up from the center right, giving the viewer unexpected danger with a few possible outcomes. The animated poses and faces really bring the scene to life!

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/razordws/GB%20Badges/WMIIIGBsmall.jpg

 

 

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Posted by telsono on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 6:26 PM

I have read about these dog teams and they turned out not to be terribly effective. They were trained to find food under armor vehicles so to be familiar with them, which were mostly Russian vehicles. The dogs knew the scents and sounds of Russian vehicles and took them to be targets at times as well. I have never seen any figures on how many vehicles were destroyed by these teams, but there is a mention that 11 vehicles were damaged in one battle. But neverthe less, the project was dropped.

Mike T.

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 5:59 PM

Boomer that diorama is beautiful. I love how the dog is just trotting allong and al the Germans are in various states of reaction. Which one is Manny? Wink

SF, the Zvezda dogs do indeed have the tilt stick on top. Look closely at each dog on this pic here. I thought they might be too thick when I saw them at first. I figured it would be more like the tilt rod on the AT mines I once trained upon. But after reading up on these dogs, the little stick looks right.

I do want to do a diorama, but since these handlers are in the padded winter uniforms with the felt boots, a winter scene like somewhere near the German advance finally being halted in the snows outside Moscow in late 1941 is what I have in mind.

But that spring scene of the lone dog is wow!Bow Down

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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Posted by SuppressionFire on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 12:28 PM

Excellent link Boomerang!

I just browsed the site and was really impressed by the quality of work they are producing.

There is a detail missing from the canine anti-tank dogs, there should be a stick about 1' long sticking up from the explosive pack they are wearing. The idea was it triggered the explosion when it bent over from the dog running under the vehicle. I recall the Zvezda kit is missing this as well from the pictures posted. I have a reference book with a photograph of this if need be.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/razordws/GB%20Badges/WMIIIGBsmall.jpg

 

 

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Posted by Boomerang on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 8:36 AM

Woooohoo!!  I found it!.Big Smile It's quite a well done dio...

 

 

Here is the link to where the dio (some awesome dio's here) is featured.....

                                  http://www.schusterdiorama-35.cz/en/gallery/94/68/

Hope this inspires you for a dio Stikpusher...

 

Boomer...Australia

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Posted by Boomerang on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 7:56 AM

I saw a dio with the dogs in it. The pics are here somewhere in my favourites. Do you think i can find it... Hmm

 

Boomer...Australia

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Posted by SuppressionFire on Tuesday, April 27, 2010 6:24 AM

stikpusher,

Suppresion fire, if you need decals for a Canadian Sherman, look up Ultracasts decals. They have small sheets for various Canadian units

Tanks for the link! Once another reference book arrives I will order directly from Ultracast. I never realized they had that many products or a site with direct order capability. Guess its a must in this day and age!

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Posted by stikpusher on Monday, April 26, 2010 4:03 PM

Same here. I like the occasional set of Germans that is off the beaten track, say the recent Gebirgsjager Defenders from Dragon, but otherwise I give most of them a pass these days. I have plenty already. I did pick up a neat new set from Masterbox- Scotland the Brave, three standard Commonwealth figures in action poses, and one upright marching piper in a kilt and bonnet. Very nice! Now if we can get some more PTO and CBI figures from both sides.Yes

Suppresion fire, if you need decals for a Canadian Sherman, look up Ultracasts decals. They have small sheets for various Canadian units

http://www.ultracast.ca/Armour%20Decals%20-%2035%20Scale.htm

 

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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Posted by SuppressionFire on Monday, April 26, 2010 5:40 AM

Frankly I've been a little burnt out by Germans, Germans, and more Germans in the figure category and I'm quite happy to see more Soviets and UK/Commonwealth subjects.

Ditto

Well said buddy, it can be difficult to find ANY decent figure kits that are not WWII Germans. Hopefully the AM resin manufactures will step up to the challenge as well.

I have started the shift to commonwealth subjects recently. Harder yet is finding research material on Canadian forces and units. Predicting this trend I picked up a AM decal set for 4 Canadian 1/24 scale Mosquitoes! Yes that only means the Airfix kit will be purchased eventually. Now I need some decals for Shermans in Canadian units. Hmm

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Posted by Gamera on Monday, April 26, 2010 12:31 AM

I've been really impressed by most of the stuff coming out of Eastern Europe recently. I'm going to have to pick up these sets.  Frankly I've been a little burnt out by Germans, Germans, and more Germans in the figure category and I'm quite happy to see more Soviets and UK/Commonwealth subjects. 

Though with the dogs I'd be tempted to do a small diorama with a political officer holding up a diagram of a Panzer IV with the words 'GOOD TARGET' and a T34 with the caption 'BAD TARGET' for the dogs to look at...

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Posted by SuppressionFire on Sunday, April 25, 2010 8:53 AM

Indy,

Thanks for that bit of research.

The scene showed three Vietcong soldiers using the heavy machine gun on a anti-aircraft mount similar to the box art on the Zvezda kit you pictured. They fired in short bursts, possibly 3 rounds at a time and managed to down a Huey before being taken out by another firing rockets.

Looking forward to seeing your tank busting dawgs painted up! Yes

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Posted by *INDY on Sunday, April 25, 2010 1:46 AM

~Suppresion Fire~ I remember the scene and have plenty of that film memorized but I can't say I remember what MG was in that scene---Wikipiedia does list North Vietnam among users of DSHKM a slightly more modern version of the DSHK and they show a picture on that Sokolov mount

I don't know about you but usually when I see these machineguns they're mounted atop tanks & APC's

~Manny~ROFL~~never get out of charactor....

..sorry...now back to our regularly scheduled thread.................

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, April 24, 2010 7:13 PM

Lets call it a K9 ATGWWhistling But didnt one get your chow truck?Wink

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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