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Posted by williamsfw28 on Thursday, January 1, 2009 3:33 PM

  Ok here is the first ever atemp at eyes...be kind..  Im not happy with the black but Im learning

 

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Thursday, January 1, 2009 3:39 PM
Im going to need to get some better brushes...  tamiya pro's is looking like the choice

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Thursday, January 1, 2009 6:46 PM
Get yourself a super fine detailing brush, make the edges of the eyes a bit thinner and they would look great, Im suprised thats a first try, eh'

 

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Friday, January 2, 2009 12:15 AM

Yep the eyes are not the best but ill get better i hope.  As for the brushes I just cant find a good ones local so Im going to have to get them online I have time before the next kit gets here.  They are the first eyes Ive done got lucky for the most part...

   Watching that guy on u tube really helped alot...!!!!

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Posted by Voidses on Friday, January 2, 2009 9:48 AM

Her hair looks fancyThumbs Up [tup]  

Does she have fangs? Think I saw a pair of them

I attack sharks when I smell them bleed

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Posted by PatlaborUnit1 on Friday, January 2, 2009 9:56 AM

here's my input--

 

DAMN FINE JOB first time out! 

Sure fine brushes, thin paint and all of that, but YOU GOT THE JOB DONE and Done pretty darned well! Super fancy brushes dont make the kit, that comes with practice and such :)

That to me is the most important part of all.  You overcame what others DREAD and cuases others to never finish kits of this type .  Now lets see the rest of her! :)

 

David

 

 

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Friday, January 2, 2009 11:20 AM

 

  I really think theres lots of room for improvement  but in time Im sure.  Ill need to get better at mixing colors thats why Ill be taking a look at Mr Colors clears..  One reason I like the pro brushes is they have big handels I think that will help with control well i hope

   thank for the nice comments!!!  Ill see about getting more pics up.

 

  Also she does have fangs you were right...  Why i was watching  the guy on utube he look like he was using a base and adding the colors to it then into the airbrush.. any ideas??

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Posted by PatlaborUnit1 on Friday, January 2, 2009 12:16 PM

i have not seen the vid, can you link me to it?

I mix the flesh colors custom, starting with a big batch of mr. Color Flesh or Character Flesh depending on what look I want. Then add a few drops of blue ( it looks better) or Green.

Hightlights and shadows are mixed by adding white or tan to this. It works for me, he may have a different routine and we all eventually wind up with our own.

On brushes I have carpel to a degree so my hands buzz painfully after a few minutes.  i get the brushes withthe big huge handles for delicate work like this.

 

 

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Friday, January 2, 2009 1:39 PM
  Firefox wont let me link it so look this name up..   Plamo Tsukurou....  custum figure building.  watch all nine.  I thought it was pretty cool! but you cant understand a word there speaking well I didnt.  I picked up on a lot of what they were doing.  When he does the white...  Was really cool

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Friday, January 2, 2009 3:11 PM

She does have fangs, looking closley, are you doing to gaint them both?  I'd be to tempted to sand one of them off, give her the cute one fan neko look.  Kawaii desu!

Cant wait to see some more, eh'

 

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Posted by PatlaborUnit1 on Friday, January 2, 2009 6:15 PM

One thing that I learned about mixing paint, is that it should always be mixed/ applied OUTSIDE.  Ok, thats not always practical and frankly thats why I dont finish as many figs as I could, but once I leaned that you cannot corectly judge color under typical household light, my color tones started looking better. I tend to paint on a fairly clear day when I have good light, but not so strong that I cant see what Im doing due to shadows. I have my little table outisde and I have my colors and my airbrush and im ready to go.

here is what I mean, i work from this little Walmrt table right at the edge of my garage door. As the sun moves around and gets either too light or too dark to effectively work I move in or out as needed. Or until the mosquitos got to bad.  this is a solid base coat of Rosey Flesh. Golden skin tones went ovet that. actually it was raining when I was doing this, but I hadpretty good light in the garage at the time.

 

 

 

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Friday, January 2, 2009 8:05 PM
I know that figure your building, that is a gorgeous kit, and a seemingly nasty one to pain, eh'?

 

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Posted by PatlaborUnit1 on Friday, January 2, 2009 9:28 PM

no, I actually had so much FUN painting her! Seriusly she was a blast. She was done entirely in gaming acrylics. Just layers and layers and layers built up, and flesh wash mixed with a drop of drying retarder for the shadows. Right now she is in my top two fave figs that I have done I have her "sister" here in the box and another on the way, so I should have the whole set eventually.

 Now, back to the piece at hand and the videos....I have been watching them most of thenight here and I remember watching the videos on the Subraru WRC and how that came out! Going back to the point of the paint, I believe what the painter has in the large bottle is his base mix most likely a mix of flat white and clear gloss which is a satin base which you tint with your mixes. I want that paint dryer he has! man that would rock! 

he is using Character Flesh 1 for the base skin color, its a good overall color, then he warms it up around the shadows with Character Flesh 2 whicih is a pink. Flesh on the other hand is a tan color unlike these two colors.  For his lavendar he mixed most likely Character Blue , another blue perhaps clear blue, a tan or brown, looked like Wood Brown and soem darker color, likely a green. He seems to know a bit about color theory and how the paints will mix to yeild color. I mix opposites for effects. Sometimes it works, sometimes its junk! 

Also I noticed that after he did the gloves in Character White he overcoated with 151 White Pearl. I have to try that.  The overcoat Super Clear Gloss is some great stuff!. I would like to know what his tint base actually IS and not be gussing at it like I am.  I love the way he mass, same as I do. I use a ton of that poster putty every year, and love it for a mask. Just dont use it Tamiya acrylic they dont get along.  The clear red mr. Color 49 and clear orange 47 got mixed into that mix so that makes me furter believe its a clear base with white mixed in for tranlucency.

He is using Tamiya Enamels for the eyes, not commonly found in the US, they are gloss enamels.  the retarder keeps it from drying out but i have not seen it sold in shops in the US. he mixes paint on this thumb too LOL. mine is usually covered in splotches of paint. 

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Saturday, January 3, 2009 11:32 AM

Ok I have her head done...  Right now less is more so i didnt get to crazy with the green but its clean and i think it looks ok.  now the body..

 

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Saturday, January 3, 2009 4:41 PM

That looks great!  I love the colors, and the blue for the hair is just a great color, it fits perfect.  Good job, really.  I am suprised to see the ear fur being a different color then the hair, while you see that sometimes, the fur is normally a single color brown or black with a pink interior, the alternate is the fur being the same color as her hair , I dont think I have ever seen one shaded with realism as you did, looks good.  Kudos.

 

A question, what glue do you guys use for the resin kits?

 

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Posted by PatlaborUnit1 on Saturday, January 3, 2009 5:15 PM

I LIKE IT!

man you are off to a FANTASTIC start!!!!

Lets see the rest of her :D

David 

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Posted by PatlaborUnit1 on Saturday, January 3, 2009 5:21 PM

Smeagol

sorry I didnt see the question you posted.

i ALWAYS pin each and every part together with wire. I have had too many tranportatio failures from these HORRID roads we have in LA. Even if it is just a hand, it gets wire, either leftover ROMEX, guitar wire or even a paperclip, drilled and epoxied in.  Superglue just fails, its quick and easy but it will always fail, when you dont want it to. I have had far fewer failures using epoxy.

Now, on the epoxy front, there is a fairly new 1 minute or 60 second Epoxy in the twin push tubes at Walmart. it REALLY sets in about 3 minutes. it comes with two mixing tubes...these are single use, and you will be using tiny dabs. Just dont use the mixing tubes and go ahead and mix on a pallet. I find that it is fialry flexible and the RC guys like it for that flexability.  Sets almost water clear. Im using it to cast Finemolds stormtroopers in a silicon mold believe it or not. it gets rigid after about 3 days, up to that point its pretty flexible.

Oh, and since it was actually intened to be used once, maybe twice and used up, it does not come with a cap to seal it. I used poster putty to seal the ends and stored it upright in its original package so it wont leak out.

HTH

David 

 

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Posted by Voidses on Sunday, January 4, 2009 5:49 PM

She looks adorable 

The colors are cat-chy  if ya dig Wink [;)]  

Seriusly I really like the shading and eyes

 

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Sunday, January 4, 2009 5:55 PM

What colors did you use for the skin tone?  I want to try doing that Katsumi from love hina SD figure I have (least favorite char so I dont mind using her as a test ground, I wana beable to do Koalla and Shinobu <3 correctly)

Also, isnt epoxy a filler, how do you use it as a glue?!

 

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Posted by Voidses on Sunday, January 4, 2009 6:07 PM

I have only used epoxy to glue stuff together. There is probably several different types of epoxy but try to use it lika any other glue, glue on one side and put the two pieces together

 hope I made any sense

 

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Sunday, January 4, 2009 7:13 PM
What type of epoxy, there are so many.

 

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Sunday, January 4, 2009 7:20 PM

I used vallejo paint for the flesh... flesh, white , tan , and sand. I couldnt tell you the mix seeing as I think I made it to light for the base. Im going to try something different or i should say different paint...  Gunzo or Tamiya for the kits thats on its way...  I like Vallejo and it sprays really well but!!!!!!  its a weak paint and doesnt stick all that great I think but its all i had.  I have nothing around me except Hobby Lobby and they dont have great water based model paint.

 

  Also thanks guys for all the nice words...  took me most of the day to mask her body...  might get some green on her tonight.

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Sunday, January 4, 2009 7:23 PM
What do you use to mask?  I have heard wonders about using parafilm and useing clay/putty to mask

 

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Sunday, January 4, 2009 8:22 PM

 

  I use tamiya tape , silly putty and will be adding liquid mask.  Do not let windex touch silly putty..... it doesnt like it at all.  I just put the tape on glass then cut a bunch of different sizes and go to town. i learned it from a ship builder. Ive heard the film works well...  fiskas ( think thats the name) Ive also heard works well.

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Posted by PatlaborUnit1 on Monday, January 5, 2009 12:11 PM

i havent had any luck with Parafilm M and I have had several rolls since it hit the market.  Some people get amazing results. I use lots of that blue tape and Tamiya tape....just never use lacuqer paint over the tamiya tape it will eat the adhesive and you are done in at that point! Been there done that!

I like to use poster putty as a mask and to hold parts to bamboo skewers.  Just dont use it over Tamiya paint, it EATS the paint off! Grrrrr...

Here is another trick: Use plumbers white teflon tape to mask off parts, its super cheap at places like Harbor freight tools so dont spare it. it has no adhesive so its perfect for application to metallics . I prepaint my gundam skeletons and mask then slip the tape out. Works on legs that must be prepainted then a part of the costume put over that, , bleneded and painted...here ....

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b244/ThePlasticFanatic/Scale%20Modeling%20Album/kmpfrlgpaint.jpg

Smeagol on epoxy, there are so many different types. The liquid type either as a two part bottle or twin pushtube package is an adhesive, but the paste types such as Milliput, Magicsculp, MoriMori, Tamiya 2part epoxy, GamesWorkshop Green putty, or even regular hardware store stick putty such as that stuff that the really irratiting guy in the checked shirt sells on TV can be used to both fiar parts in and mount together at the same time. When I use these i make both surfaces rough, or drill a series of shallow holes for that epoxy to grab onto.

I have had the same expierience with Vallejo paitns no sticking even to a properly primed surface. I use Vallejo Model Air thinner, yes it sprays great but thats no good if it dont stick.

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Monday, January 5, 2009 4:05 PM

ok heres the start of her body...  Im not crazy with the lighter green and there is a little mistake  that I will fix but Im happy with the mask for now

 

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Posted by williamsfw28 on Monday, January 5, 2009 5:28 PM

  Ok heres a little more...  Im learning so much on what to do different next time. and I can see I need a little touch up here and there but for the most part she coming together.

Dustin

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Posted by PatlaborUnit1 on Monday, January 5, 2009 7:07 PM
she deinfitely gets your attention! Approve [^]
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Posted by williamsfw28 on Monday, January 5, 2009 7:39 PM
shes great to work o and I will buy another one down the road... 

Dustin

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Monday, January 5, 2009 11:14 PM

She is just Gorgeous.  Thats some awesome work, eh'

Though... I'd give the mouth, and the stomach a wash, to highlight the belly button, the lips, and more importantly, the fangs.

 

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