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Four Foot X-wing work in progress(UPDATED WITH NEW PHOTOS)

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    September 2009
Posted by Cobra 427 on Saturday, September 26, 2009 10:01 PM

Here,you can see that I'm measuring the brass tubing to see if it's in spec with what I need for the tip of the bell shape parts used inside the engine intake shroud.
If you look closely you can see small lines that I scribed into the end of this for spacing the discs that will start the first row the be attached to this tubing before I cut them to size.
Here I'm measuring to see that the brass tubing is big around enough for this as it is what I'll be using for the base of the discs. This will make it easier for me to attach them to the 1/8th inch thick plate which this assembly will be mounted to.


 
I'm using the engine intake shroud to size up this plastic mount to which an RC car was originally bolted to. This will help me decide if this will be usable for this part of the build. Luckily it does. This will save me a little time scratch making this. The holes in the discs will allow me to insert this into them and then shave them all down accordingly to create the stairstep effect of the original. This will make it look like the bell housings of the Jedi model.


 
I'll have to sand the mould marks off this and use superglue to replace the plastic that is now missing on the outside ring at the bottom. This will make a perfectly round shape when finished. This will be the larger ring in the middle of the bell housing.


 
A trial test to make sure that this is a snug fit.
This will make it easy to see how much of this disc I need to shave down to the correct specs. This is 1/8th of an inch thick. This is the plate that I'll use to mount the engine bell to the bottom engine shroud.






 
Measuring to ensure that this is in the proper thickness that I need. It actually needs to be 3/32nds of an inch thick. I'll have to shave it down.

 
 



Here,I'm cutting the tubing to the length I need for the other end of this to go through the bell for support with a pipe cutter,as the piece that I'm using to glue the discs to - is hollow up to the inner stub.



I cut small tubing with an Exacto saw so that it doesn't collapse as this pipe cutter is too big. Tubing this size (5/16th),and smaller that need to be bent I fill with water and freeze to keep them from being crushed and collapsing on themselves during the bending process. 5/16th tubing for small parts. This will be the tip of the engine bell inside the engine shroud. I'm also using this same tubing for the laser canons.


 


This piece I shaved the entire length with a Dremel Moto-tool (the original version) for the back of the wing detail. This will be glued to the wing and cast as one piece with it.

This took me a half hour just to cut this at an angle so that it'll look exactly like the wing reinforcement spar in the back of the wings.


 
A closer look at the tubing that I've cut for this project. 11/32nds,5/32nds,and 1/8th of an inch.



Another look.

This is to give you an idea of how long this piece is.

I still have yet to cut the rest of this to size,and make the end of the reinforcement spar for the back of the wing. I'll post photos of the parts that I'm copying. I of course have made a blueprint style drawing of the wing and all the dimensions of the parts are made according to this. 

 

 

~ Cobra Chris

           

Maybe a picture of a squirrel playing a harmonica will make you feel better?

 

 

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    September 2009
Posted by Cobra 427 on Monday, September 21, 2009 8:17 PM

   Thanks guys! I'll post the latest pics tonight if I can get all the image codes copied to here from my photobucket account without any trouble. I hope to have even more progress to show tomorrow.
 

  This is a comparison shot. I wanted to show this for all to see as the smaller (incorrect) five inch version is the one that I started first. The larger nine inch (correct) version beside it is the one that I just recently made and it will be the one I'll use for this build.
 

   In this photo and the two photos below are just small bits and bobs of acrylic. They're only in the rough right now.

 





   This will be the Phantom engine part as soon as I can get it turned the rest of the way to the correct diameter.



 
    This is the finished engine intake,and the first prototype showing how many steps have to be taken to make this the size required for this scale. I hope you guys like!



    This is the flash supressor. I had to shave this down with a Dremel moto-tool. The one on the left is too thin. I'll have to reshape the one one the right to have the correct thickness.

 
 
    This is photo is for comparison. 

 


    These are the pieces of the laser canon disassembled for easier view. This is so you can see what parts I made this from.


 
     These are the musicman covers that I made for Eddie Van Halen model guitar bodies that I make. These will be the engine bells inside the intake shroud.



    This ugly glob of Bondo,and plumbers' two part epoxy putty will be the heatsink - if I can get this to harden all the way through. If not I'll have make another one completely out of Bondo and not mis-matched materials.


 
   This is the epoxy putty end.



   This is the Bondo end.

 

 

 

Maybe a picture of a squirrel playing a harmonica will make you feel better?

 

 

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    February 2008
Posted by CPD730 on Monday, September 21, 2009 3:41 PM
Looking forward to seeing the finished product! looks great so far.
"I was quit when I came in here, I'm twice as quit now." Deckard
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    February 2003
  • From: Sandusky Ohio, USA
Posted by Swanny on Saturday, September 19, 2009 9:01 AM
Wow, an impressive project and off to a good start. This sounds like something that should end up in a Star Wars museum when completed.
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Posted by Cobra 427 on Friday, September 18, 2009 1:51 PM

  Just this model itself wasn't used. There were smaller models used in Jedi,but no one knows how much footage of the four foot version was used,as opposed to the other models that were used in the filming of The Empire strikes back.  A couple of the models from Empire were used for the X-wing shots in Jedi, but to date, there still isn't much more known about them. These were seen in the movie, but the four foot version never was!

    Thanks for your comment Sumpter250.  Accuracy is a must when making a model of this size! I want to make the most accurate, and correctly made model possible. I'm a machinst, so it helps especially when I need the tools of the trade for 0.01" of an inch accuracy on my builds. I hope that I can show others that you just need a little imagination, and the right parts to make anything out of simple everyday household items.

 

~ Cobra Chris

 

 

Maybe a picture of a squirrel playing a harmonica will make you feel better?

 

 

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  • From: vernon hills illinois
Posted by sumpter250 on Friday, September 18, 2009 1:38 PM
 427 Cobra wrote:

This is a project that I have been working on for a few months now. I started this in May of this year initially,but I originally had planned it last year. (I wish I had released this then.)I originally posted this on another forum,but all the hostility from a couple other members has made it unbearable to stay there,and still feel welcomed. It seemed that no matter what I showed them,or what I said,that it wasn't good enough for them on "the other forum"! After months of lurking,I decided to bring this over here to share instead. 

   This is my tribute to the ILM version that was built about the time that Return of the Jedi was just begining production. This was originally a pet project of two of the ILM guys who were working there at the time that Lorne Peterson was shop supervisor. He saw this,and showed it to George Lucas at the time,and it was agreed to film it. This was never seen in the Return of the Jedi movie though,as it was edited out for budget,and time constraints.

.........and I thought all the rivet counters were into model railroading!  Looks great to me! 

 

Lead me not into temptation ..................I can find it myself

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    September 2009
  • From: Guam
Posted by sub revolution on Friday, September 18, 2009 12:01 PM
Very interesting project, but I don't think I understand the story behind it. Did the Xwings in ROTJ have different propotions than those in New Hope? Or just the model that didn't get filmed?

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Four Foot X-wing work in progress(UPDATED WITH NEW PHOTOS)
Posted by Cobra 427 on Friday, September 18, 2009 11:09 AM

    This thread is has been updated with the new photos from the new photobucket account.  This will help to keep the photos from being overloaded on the album they were uploaded to. New photos will be uploaded when available as this build progresses. Thank you for your patience.

 

    This is a project that I have been working on for a few months now. I started this in May of this year initially but I originally had planned it last year. (I wish I had released this then.) Personal problems with my family had brought all progress on this to a halt.  After months of lurking I decided to bring this over here to share.  I finally had another member there go the the exibition where this model is presently being shown in Australia and measure this for me. I was off by eight inches. Needless to say I had to start over from scratch. He and I are going to cast this together instead of the guy that I was originally going to have cast it. 

   This is my tribute to the ILM version that was built about the time that Return of the Jedi was just begining production. This was originally a pet project of two of the ILM guys who were working there at the time that Lorne Peterson was shop supervisor. He saw this and showed it to George Lucas at the time and it was agreed to film it. This was never seen in the Return of the Jedi movie though as it was edited out for budget and time constraints.

  I know that there is a smaller "studioscale" version of this being offered by several makers,but none of them are the exact same size,and length! Theirs are intended to be recreations of the Star Wars - A new hope models.  I'm making this recreation of four foot version instead. I've only seen one successful attempt to recreate this on ebay but that version was too big (lengthwise) and disproportionate to the original. There's another person attempting to make this on another forum but no one has seen the final product yet and this will be HIS interpretation of the original ILM models of the first Star Wars movie - A New Hope. Mine will use accurate kit parts and construction according to the Return of the Jedi version. I'm a machinist by trade so this will make converting proprotions a little easier. A lot of time and effort have gone into figuring out what materials to use that are available as well as being the correct size for this. I've put many hours into figuring scale and construction methods as well as detail (kit part Id'ing). I hope that this will be the ultimate tribute to the original  ILM guys when I'm finished!

   Here are the photos that I have as of late. I'll be adding more today as this progresses.


   Here's what I originally meant to post but I had to go to another forum to compose this message:

   This one will be the accurate version of the Jedi model. This will have an armature in it. I'm thinking about lighting this but with fibreoptics in the cockpit as well not just in the engines.  I hope that in time I can show what skills I have and prove that I can be a useful member here as well. I'll let the photos tell the story!  

    Here're are the first photos that I took. The last few with out the date stamp are the most recent ones.  I removed the date stamp from last photos as it only displays military time (d/m/y) and won't work any other way now. Some of these are a little blurry. I apologize for that the camera I was using is crap! I hope you'll like them anyway. More to come. If you like what you see so far stay tuned! 

         

   This is a reducer cap that I cut into the flash suppressor (half moon shape at the end of the laser canon).


 

 

   Here are the wings before final cutting and shaping. You can't tell from looking at this photo but these are about four and a half feet wide when spread out.
 

 



 



 

 



 





 



 
 

    This piece of lint is acrylic fiber that melted and wrapped around the cutting wheel in small strands as I was cutting shapes out of it. Now I see how polyester and nylon are processed into everyday clothing items. Synthetic indeed!

 
 



 
 
 

 

   This is the back of the wing stabilizer.




 
   The hole in this wing is too big on the larger chevron. I'll have to cut more acrylic to piece back in before I fit the sheet styrene to it.



   These are the intake plenums that go into the front,and back. This is the part that the Saturn V engines go on. I taped these together so that when I sand one side I can retape it after measuring it and making sure that all sides are congruent or rather perfectly straight with each other.


 
   This piece has no real life function on the model. It's just there for ornamentation. Here you can see that the bottom of this is too small and thin but it's no big deal as I have to cut two of these anyway (one for each wing). I forgot to make this for the smaller PVC tubing that I've cut for this when I traced it out. This goes on the front of the wing to intake joint.


  



 




 



 

     These were a bunch of Eddie Van Halen model musicman control covers that I made and converted into the engine bells for the inside of the engine intake. This is why there are circles drawn on them. I photoshopped out the holes for comparison. I used these because I have no other use for them right now.

     This is a comparison shot. This was 1/4" of an inch thick. Now it's 3/32" of an inch thick. This was neccessary for the difference between the top and bottom of the engine intake. This will have greeblies attached to it with to reinforcing ribs glued along the front edge.

    Here's a better shot from above.

    Here you can see both the old and new Phantom engine parts shown side by side for comparison. The smaller ones on the left of course are the original ones I made but I can no longer use. The tube on the far right with the line on it is the one that I recently machined smaller in diameter. The first one was too big around and I didn't know this until I looked at the reference photos. I then decided to cut a new one and leave the mount on the end of it until I'm satisfied that the two pieces match the reference photos.

   This is the laser canon in the making. I still have yet to make the heatsink. The smaller part on the left is the reducer that I made from the black coloured mounts from an RC car.
These kept it from being jostled around inside the box it came in.
The other parts are a needle-less syringe that I cut down for the finial  in the end and a brass tube inserted into a half inch diameter PVC tube.

    Although a little haphazardly assembled for this photo - this is what it'll look like when finished.

 

~ Cobra Chris

Maybe a picture of a squirrel playing a harmonica will make you feel better?

 

 

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