Tanker - Builder

Oh Boy;

 Have I got a question for you. Does any of these movies have floaty thingies in them? I think they would look as weird as some of their aircraft.

 

TB, sorry I misunderstood your question, and it took 2 years for me to figure it out!

The answer is YES, Miyazaki has featured surface ships in his works.  One that comes to mind is the metal sailing vessel Barracuda from "Future Boy Conan" (Mirai no Shonen Conan).

https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10283500

There is a lot of water in this show, as it is set in a future Earth that went Waterworld.

Awesome to see you connect the jumper cables to this grand old thread!!!

I wanna see the Bakagalus completed before I'm too old to see!!! Maybe by the time you're done I'll be able to plug myself into the computer and see her in 3D...

Gamera,

I have a little over 2 months, so hope to not keep you waiting too long!

Looking over what I had made for the project, I noticed that a lot of fairing masters still needed to be made.  The Bakagalas is covered with all manner of lumps and bumps, Miyazaki design at its best.

My friends are coming over for Hobby Day and to celebrate one lucky friend's retirement this May.  So I'll use the time to make the masters and push out some fairings to keep the freight train rolling.  Pics to follow.

I started adding humps, lumps, and bumps to the wings and fins.  I smarted up by using a very small piece of wood to support the sheet plastic while heating.  That way the dozens of fairings needed can be heat formed using only the minimum amount of precious sheet plastic.  See those tiny squares of plastic with the fairings already cut out?  That's how small the plastic sheet can be.   Waaaaaay better at not wasting material.

I am pleased with the rudder actuator fairings - they were glued on to the fins, then their trailing edges were trimmed off with a razor blade, and the cut bits were attached to the rudders.

Masses of putty work remains to be done.  The lower nose was lopsided (my fault obviously), so I finally got around to doing something about it.  I used two different putties, so it looks like meat.  

The rest of the airframe also needs its share of putty.

It looks really bad at the moment, but things are going well (so far).

Yup!

 I do the same except 6 and 8. They usually get finished within a four year span!

I am continuing adding the humps, bumps, and lumps.  I had forgotten what bucks I used to make the spoiler actuator fairings on the starboard wing, but "relearned" that only one buck was used to make the two parts.  I have gotten better at heat forming, so the buck only produced the "skinny" version.  By letting the heated plastic cool a bit and not plunging the buck as far produced the "fat" parts needed for the forward portions of the fairings.

The inboard engines received slim fairings.

The Bakagalas also has areas with rolled edges on the sheet metal, so these were replicated with 0.040" half-round styrene strip, properly pre-curled to match the wing contours.

I sourced half-round lead wire from the Big H across the pond, and will used these on more diffcult areas with tight radii.

Making the lumpy stuff is now easy and predictable, so now the inboard flaps and landing gear sponson bottoms must be skinned.  The Wiliy E. Coyote in me has a plan.

I had made some grill detail by assembling them in strip form and cutting segments as needed,  I only now realize I should leave them slightly proud of the airframe skin to add panel detail.  Should have done that with the engine modules.  Oh well, live and learn.

I had thought long and hard about how to make the fuselage gun ports, and this popped into my head Saturday night.

By cutting the windows out while still attached to the sheet, it is easy to hold without fear of crushing the part.

It still needs a clear window, a baseplate, and of course a gun, but I am happy with the result.

And the landing gear sponson bottoms finally got plated over.  I had heed and hawed about how to trim the pieces to exactly fit the already installed side plating, worried about wasting a whole plastic sheet in case of a botched attempt, and fretted over other needless concerns.

I did lose one of my gloves though, and had to resort to an oven mitt.

Before:

After:

The second to the last engineering hurdle is to plate the underside of the concave inboard flaps.  And finally the canopy.  Stay tuned...

Fantastic job there Real G! One of the best scratchbuilding treads on this forum! 

Thanks Gamera!

But it pales compared to some of the other threads on this forum when it comes to technical expertise and precision.  The Lola T-70 comes to mind right away.  I primarly use low tech methods to make what I need, a carryover from my earlier days.

But progress is being made, and the big engineering issues are falling one after another.  I'm going to try to tackle those pesky inboard flaps tonight, the very ones that stymied the build in 2018.  I'm aiming to substantially complete construction by the end of the month, and spend July covering the entire model with rivet decals.

And being the kind of guy that gets easily distracted, I was thinking of follow-on projects.  I had wanted to do the Tolmekian Corvette next, which would use the same construction techniques as the Bakagalas (with learned improvements).  While studying images from the movie, I noticed my initial size estimates were off.  The Corvette is larger than I originally guessed - it is more like a Boeing 707 than a 727, so the planned scale will be 1/144 versus 1/72.  But the tandem wings will still be around 12" across.

I'm still undecided if the Pejite Gunship will remain at 1/48 scale or downsized to 1/72, to match the Tsukuda/Bandai Valley of the Winds Gunship kit.  Gee, if I make the Pejite Barge, that makes 5 kits - enough to enter a "Collections" at a future Nats!  Around 2051 or so if I take as long to do them!

Ha ha, but back to the task at hand!

A milestone victory has been reached.  I took an alternate approach to skinning the flaps and it worked like a charm.  3 years ago, I hastily tried to fit a single piece of sheet plastic to a convex/concave curvy flap with predictably disastrous results.  It killed my spirit and the flaps sat untouched until last night.  Time cures all stupidity I think, because when I took another look at it, it occurred to me that if a strip of sheet plastic was first glued onto the relatively flat leading edge of the flap, there would be less curved area to negotiate.  And it worked!  Hooray.

So what this means is that the basic airframe is finally 100% complete (sans a small bit of savage filling and sanding).  Thusly, gentle readers, henceforth progress will be actually visible to the casual eye.

The plan is to get all the ugly wubblies sorted by this weekend, and a light coat of primer applied to create a uniform base.  The surface details will be 100% made up, as the animation frames from the movie are frustratingly inconsistent.  The trick is to get a visual balance to create a pleasing "rhythm" of detail.

     Rome wasn't built in a day either my friend. Glad to see the lumpy bumpy whatchamacallit fall into place for ya. No disrepect on the name, just to lazy to page back . Will this be in Vegas?

"Bakagalas" does not exactly roll off the tongue.    Yeah, I'm feeling the Force returning.  I'm so glad it's back.

And yes, if all goes well this will be at Vegas!

I have to make it my best, as this project took so long and caries a lot of personal emotional weight.  Plus there is the duty to uphold the reputation of the "Hawaii Mafia".  

Detailing of the inboard flaps has commenced.

Gotta make some heat press forms for needed new fairing shapes/sizes, and some grille insert strips for the wing detailing.  Still mulling the best way to do the "finger" trailing edge things.

They are oval in cross section, and must have the wing fairing go over them.  I have another Wily E. Coyote idea, so I will do one to see if it works.  Notice I'm not following the drawings exactly, since the plating pattern was done many years ago.  

   Whoo Haa Sharkbait Whoo Haa sharkbait, now you must pass mount wannahackaluggie. Look forward to seeing it in Vegas but don't rush it....to much time involved.

Heh-heh, I identify with that Moorish Idol from "Finding Nemo"!  Especially when he reveals his overly complicated escape plan.  I thought "OMG, that's EXACTLY how I think!"

    Whew, you had no idea how much I thought that joke would fail.Thanks for seeing the humor I intended.

Looks fantastic Real G!!!

I mean scratchbuilding is hard enough but do you have any plans? I assumed you were winging it (to pardon the pun) just from screenshots from the anime? That's why I'm so impressed!

Armornut - No problemo.  When it comes to quirky humor, I am ALWAYS there!  

Gamera - There were no plans that I could find, nor were there any official dimensions, so yes I "winged" it!  Back in 1988 I made these sketches:

The sketches were freehanded with the focus only on getting the proportions about right.  I just decided on a desired span for the finished model and went with that.  I had originally decided the scale was 1/200, but I recently cross checked a bunch of stills from the movie and came up with a wingspan of 570 feet, making the model 1/250.

Anime is maddeningly difficult to pin down size, since they will often increase or decrease size for dramatic effect.  But I used the 1/72 Tsukuda/Bandai Nausicaa Gunship for reference, and calculated how large it would be in order to fit within the cargo hold, as seen in the movie.  When scaled to 1/200 I was dismayed to learn it would not fit!  So I just "moved the goal post" and set the scale to 1/250, which would allow a properly scaled Gunship to fit.

While performing the cross check, I calculated the Tolmekian Corvette would have a span of around 135 feet, and the Pejite Barge was around 160 feet.  What this means for me is that 1/72 models as I originally planned were out of the question, and they would be 1/144 scale instead.  At 1/250 scale, they would be too small for my taste.  I might keep the Pejite Gunship at 1/48, but I am inclined to match the Nausicaa Gunship in 1/72.  So many projects, so little time.

In the mean time, the freight train continues forward.  Pesky project-torpedoing underside of inboard flap, now properly covered:

Very cool! I wasn't sure if there was maybe a manga with blueprints or something like that you were using. Awesome that you made your own drawings!

And it's not the only subject with wildly varying scale. Someone calculated that the Klingon Bird of Prey on Trek would have to exist in eight different sizes to match what's been seen on screen. And yeah I know there's supposed to be two types- the B'Rel class scout and K'Vort class cruiser but that's still only two sizes.

Ah yes, the old Star Trek scale debate.  Over on another forum, they are already playing out the usual sausage size contest over the scale of the recently announced 1/350 USS Grissom.  It will no doubt generate pages and pages of arguments, but I think they miss the point.  Like Tim Allen's character in "Galaxy Quest" said, it's just a movie - there is no ship, there is no quantum drive, no switching to auxilliary, etc, etc.  It's just a movie prop.  And the interior sets don't necessarily HAVE to match the miniature.  It's film fiction.  They need to get over it.  

Okay to be honest, I took a look at the Polar Lights 1/350 K'Tinga, and yes, the "cobra" deck and connecting neck are too low for the crew to walk upright.  Yeah, OK.  But I will not engage in endless debate over why the stated scale, interior sets, etc cannot be resolved absolutely, perfectly forever and ever.  It's just a model kit.  And I still like it.  

But back to the Bakagalas.  I was mildly surprised that a compromise scale unifying all the aircraft in the movie was possible at all, but it seems to work out.  And I like it.  

Another bit of work I was dreading was the filling of the rivet holes that were made 33 years ago.  They were not consistent, plus now there are really cool raised rivet decals.  Funny thing is that in several scenes from the movie, they are truly "baseball-sized"!    Thinned putty was carefully painted over the rivets to begin the elimination process.

It went better than expected.  I'll do the right side tonight and sand them out tomorrow.  This work needs to be completed before the landing gear sponsons are permanently attached.

I made up some surface panel and grill detail this weekend, so I will begin adding them.

Great progress there G, enjoying watching the updates. 

Thanks Gamera!  All the old rivets are now filled in and ready to be sanded.

Heh-heh, that rear door outlline was wa~ay off, so it had to be filled.  

Things will move faster once the sponsons are attached.  I am super jazzed that the model horsepower is once again flowing!

Very cool! Hope you keep on the jazz! 

I don't have much to report on, just been busy filling and sanding away 33 year old rivet divots to make way for the waaaay nicer Archer rivet decals.

While the putty dries, I have been dropping in more vent details and drilling out windows.

Yes, one of the windows was off, so it had to be plugged and re-drilled.  I'm a measure one-cut twice kind of guy.

I was thinking about how to make small fairings and hit upon the idea of using the tip of a small electronics screwdriver.  By heat plunging the screwdriver tip, I was able to easily make teeny oval fairings.

I used a razor blade to slice off the tip, and after a small amount of sanding on a 600 grit board, it was ready to use.

Hmmm... maybe a little over scale?  Perhaps I'll dig around and locate a bit of brass strip and file the tip down to make a smaller tool.

I dunno, it all looks very cool to me G!

Thanks Gamera, but those compass hole-pokes have to go!  The consistency of the spacing was highly inconsistent as I got progressively more bored!  

I was thinking about how to make half-moon recessed foot wells that lead up to the forward fuselage doors, and had a brain fart last night.  What I thought was a diffcult problem was, as that guy Ryan George would say, "super easy, barely an inconvenience".

I took an 0.040" styrene rod and notched half the tip.  It was set into a hole drilled into the fuselage and cemented in place.  Just have to sand them flush with the fuselage.  There's an easy way and a hard way to do things.  I usually try the hard way first, but not this time!  

   Groovy maan groovy, looking forward to seeing this come to fruition. Maybe in Vegas but definitly here. Hang onto the *** Real G.

Armornut,

I am steaming full power to get this thing across the finish line.  The next milestone is permanently attaching the landing gear sponsons, which after inspecting them last night, appears to be doable this week.  After that, the canopy is the final hurdle to overcome.  Well, that and some more grills, patches, and lots and lots of rivet decals!

I'm debating whether or not to lower the "Dome of Secrecy" during the final finishing steps, but that would just be hyping.  

Edit:  I'll be off work for the last four days before Zero Hour, so a blackout may be inevitable, since I don't have a computer at home.