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X-Wing toy rebuild finally completed!

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X-Wing toy rebuild finally completed!
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 3:09 AM
This is basically a repost of my post on the Rebelscum.com (Star Wars toy collecting website) customising forum, so apologies to anyone here who also visits that website and therefore sees this twice!

Anyway - My X-Wing rebuild project is finally completed! This is the second ship in my large-scale "rebuilt toy" collection, the first being the Ep1 Droid Starfighter, and also features my first customised figure (the pilot)

It's based on the toy X-Wing (1995 POTF2 Hasbro re-issue of the vintage Kenner ship), which I bought second-hand for a couple of pounds, missing its cockpit canopy and wing guns! I dismantled the model completely, removed the stickers and electronics, and rebuilt it into the model you see here.

Unfortunately I couldn't get the wing "S-foil" system to work properly, something must have got broken during the process of disassembly and the wings just wouldn't stay open! So I resorted to removing the mechanism and gluing the wings in the open position. Not really accurate for a landed X-Wing (AFAIK) but it just doesn't look like an X-Wing with the wings closed IMHO!








The cockpit interior, canopy, and wing guns are completely scratchbuilt. Also added are a couple of details to the R2 unit, some pipework on the engine exhausts/boosters, and some "skids" to the rear undercarriage tabs.
It's a credit to the designers of the original, 25-year-old toy that I didn't need to add any more external details! Most of the X-Wing's panel lines and surface details are already present.




The cockpit interior (made from styrene card, plus assorted plastic washers and bits from my spares box) is based on the drawings in the Dorling Kindersley "Incredible Cross-Sections" book. It includes an accurately-shaped seat, a joystick, rudder pedals, and plenty of assorted dials, screens and panels!
It doesn't show up too well on the photographs, but with the canopy hinged up, almost all of the cockpit detail is clearly visible - it's certainly not "lost" like interior details on model aircraft/spacecraft often are.

I'd like to have added some removable panels to show interior details such as the engines, missile/torpedo racks, shield generator, life support system etc. However the plastic is so thick that cutting out the panels would be completely impossible (I don't have a Dremel-type power tool unfortunately).

The ship was painted with both Tamiya and Citadel/Games Workshop acrylics. The colour scheme represents a generic "Red Squadron" X-Wing, not based on any particular ship in the films. I weathered it heavily, with both scuffed paint and black scorch marks, to represent a battered, well-used ship which has seen plenty of combat service but not much in the way of repainting!




The pilot figure is an old Kenner Luke X-Wing pilot figure, completely repainted. No modifications other than cleaned up mould seams and plenty of putty to fill in the articulated joints!
Whilst less detailed, many of the old Kenner figures are actually more realistically proportioned than the newer figures, and many of the more common types are actually cheaper than new figures, when missing their packaging and accessories (and loose non-vintage SW figures seem to be rather hard to find, either on Ebay or at second-hand sales).
An alternative source for a pilot figure could have been a suitably modified modern jet pilot, but I'm not sure how many 1/24 modern pilot figures, if any, exist! (The only 1/24 post-war kit I can think of is the Airfix Harrier)

The pilot doesn't actually fit into the cockpit, unfortunately, as his legs are too long - or rather, the rudder pedals are too close to the seat (in any case, his legs are glued solid and filled in with putty!)

Like the ship, he isn't really meant to represent any particular character, just a generic Rebel pilot.

There are a number of aspects of the ship that I now think could have done with improving, such as: lengthening the cockpit interior so that the pilot's legs can actually fit in it; raising the R2 unit to the correct height (which would also allow for more detail to be added to it); proper rear undercarriage legs (which would also allow the ship to "sit" properly) a better-fitting cockpit canopy; a replacement for the solid moulded rear canopy; and so on.
However it was my first complete rebuild project (the Droid Fighter was basically just a repaint, as I didn't add any
extra details) and I hope to do even better with future projects such as the Y-Wing, Gunship and Jedi Starfighter.

Despite all the other things I'd like to have added, and the relatively inaccurate dimensions of the toy X-Wing (which I didn't correct), I'm really pleased with the X-Wing. It looks really impressive I think - the size, detail level and paintwork more than make up for its lack of scale accuracy.
It's certainly a lot more impressive than the rather mediocre snap-together AMT/ERTL kit, a lot cheaper than a limited-production studio-scale kit, and I had plenty of fun rebuilding and repainting it!
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Posted by lerxst1031 on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 11:40 AM
Looks great! Good idea using the figure!
Fred
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Posted by maxx1969 on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 11:46 AM
Nice work. I've always thought it would be fun to spice up a toy. My son on the other hand looks a little scared whenever I start looking over one of his toys.Laugh [(-D]

Matt
~Matt T Meyer
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 2:12 PM
Yeah, that does look good. I have seen rebuilds of the smaller scale Action Fleet ships, but never one of the large ships. Nice work!
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Posted by J-Hulk on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 2:44 PM
You've done an absolutely excellent job on the detailing, painting, and weathering, Drawde! Great work on the scratchbuilt cockpit, canopy, and wing cannons. The figure is very well done, too.

My only question is why spend so much time adding accurate details and paint to something that is so irreperably inaccurate to begin with, shape-wise and dimension-wise? I realize we are all in this hobby for different reasons and we all get satisfaction in different ways, but you are a very skilled modeller who seems to be quite concerned with accuracy in your builds, so it's hard for me to understand your choosing to detail up this incredibly clunky and wholly inaccurate toy. That is, it's puzzling to me how you can be so concerned with any degree accuracy at all and still accept the wildly inaccurate shapes of this toy.

Again, you've done a fantastic job on it, and your skills as a modeller are clearly evident, but when I look at it, I still just see a short, stubby, X-Wing toy.

But I suppose that's my problem, not yours! If you are happy with what you choose to do in this hobby, then other's opinions mean nothing.

Finally, I want to again emphasize that I think you did an outstanding job of modelling here; there's no question that you possess great skill. It's just that I can't understand your choice of a starting point. You could have an outstandingly accurate replica of an X-Wing using any of the AMT/ERTL kits if you applied the same effort you did to this toy.
If it's size your after, I believe you have the skills to scratchbuild an X-Wing in any scale you choose that would look much better than anything anyone could do with the old Kenner toy.

Sorry for this weird post, and please don't take offense. This is all purely my personal opinion, and as I mentioned before, if you're satisfied with what you do, then that's all that matters! Smile [:)]
~Brian
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 3:17 AM
Sorry... I really should have expected a response like this, I'll definitely remember not to post any more info
on similar projects in the future!

Basically, not being quite as familiar with Star Wars or Star Wars toys as many people, my model LOOKS like an X-Wing to me, albeit one which isn't totally accurate. Looking at it I don't instantly think "that's the old Kenner toy X-Wing".

I'm not a die-hard Star Wars fan who watches the films every few weeks/months (I only became interested in Star Wars modelling very recently!) and knows every detail of every scene. Much of my SW knowledge is based on the various computer games (particularly the X-Wing/TIE Fighter "flight sim" series)
Nor am I a Star Wars toy collector, as such - so I'm not quite as familiar with the Star Wars toys as many people are. Someone who's had a toy X-Wing since they were young and now has a collectable example on their display shelf, would obviously instantly recognise my model as that toy!
(I did have a toy X-Wing as a kid, as well as an AT-ST and a couple of mini-rig vehicles, but got rid of it many, many years ago, and I can't remember exactly what it looked like)

I'm not in any way criticising you for disliking my model, I'm just explaining why its defects aren't quite so blatantly obvious to me.

Another thing is that I simply enjoy taking a complete piece of junk - whether an old kit, or just a toy - and improving it as much as I can! You might remember my Sherman and M2 Bradley posts in the armour forum last year, both of which were rebuilt toys. And one of my next aircraft modelling projects will probably be a 1/48 Italian SM.79 bomber, using the very crude and basic SMER (ex-Artiplast) kit. I'm intending to add a scratchbuilt interior as well as additional exterior and engine detail, based on the cutaway diagram in the Squadron/Signal "Italian Aircraft of WW2" book.

Also, it's a sci-fi subject so IMHO perfect scale accuracy isn't as important as a historical aircraft or tank. For example, my scratchbuilt Baneblade tank is a bit too tall, and the turrets and upper hull are a slightly different shape, compared to the plans (neither intentional, but it just turned out that way, probably due to measuring errors) but it LOOKS unmistakably like a Baneblade nevertheless. Were it a King Tiger, for example, I might have tried to correct the error (if it was noticeable; I'm not really bothered about errors you can only detect with a ruler!)

As for scratchbuilding, I have at least half a dozen assorted scratchbuilt projects at various stages of completion, and really wanted to try something that (a) wasn't quite as involved and (b) I would actually finish (my Warhammer 40K Baneblade tank has been at the "80% complete" stage for two months now Dead [xx(]).

Maybe I should have scratchbuilt it, I certainly COULD have done (the X-Wing is very angular, unlike many other SW ships), once I'd found some suitable tube material for the engines/boosters, but I really didn't want it to end up on the shelf of
half-finished scratchbuilt models.

I have quite a few other Star Wars toy ships awaiting reconstruction, including a Y-Wing, a TIE Fighter, and an Episode 2 Jedi Starfighter (which I'm working on at the minute). Though AFAIK most of these (other than the Millennium Falcon) are more accurate than the X-Wing, dimension-wise.
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Posted by stipp on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 5:26 AM
Excellent redo on that x-wing!
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Posted by J-Hulk on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 8:34 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Drawde

Sorry... I really should have expected a response like this, I'll definitely remember not to post any more info
on similar projects in the future!


Drawde, please don't apologize, and please don't hesitate to post your fine work here!
As I tried to stress in my post, I really appreciated the effort and skill you put into the rebuild, and I also tried to stress that what I said was strictly my personal opinion. I tried to make it clear that we as individual modellers are free to choose what and how we want to build, and if you're pleased with your results, then nobody can take that away from you.
I was merely stating my opinion of your choice of starting point, which I feel is not worthy of your considerable modelling skills. But as I've said, if you're happy, that's all that counts.

My dislike of this toy goes way back to it's original release with the original Star Wars in 1977, when I was extremely disappointed even as a kid at its total lack of authentic shapes and dimensions. I really disliked all the Kenner toys and figures back then, and only bought a Storm Trooper figure, as it was the most accurate and least toylike item in the bunch. Luckily I had been modelling for a while by 1977, so I was fairly satisfied with the then MPC kits that were on the market. I couldn't stand the toys!! And I suppose that strong childhood disappointment lingers within me to this day.

Perhaps I should have done the usual FSM thing and just said "looks great!", but you and I have been interacting here at FSM for quite some time now, so I figured expressing my honest opinion would be welcomed. I apologize if my opinions have upset you, and ask you to please continue posting your works here. I'll keep my mouth shut! Other than to compliment you on your fine modelling, which is just as honest of an opinion as my expression of dislike of Kenner's horrid attempts at toymaking in the '70s.

Happy modelling and posting, Drawde! Smile [:)]
~Brian
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Posted by 46 mech on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 12:01 PM
Thumbs Up [tup] I like it alot. Great job Drawde!!! Thanks for sharing it with us. Smile [:)]
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