ROBOTECH!!!

Dark Horse Comics published most of Shirow's stuff here in the States, and they just wrapped up the second Ghost on the Shell comic miniseries, so I'd say a local comic shop should be able to order the older titles. Our local Borders has a good selection of graphic novels, so you might try there, too.

The videos are another matter. Ghost in the Shell and Dominion Rank Police are both available on DVD, but look for them at a video store since wal-Mart or something similar is unlikely to carry them. The M-66 and Appleseed videos have been out of print for years with no news of a DVD release, so evilBay would be your best bet for those titles.

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As far as I knew, there was only one Appleseed anime video ( soon to be 2? About time! ), but that was only part of the store with storyline elements mixed from 2 story arcs from the manga.

If you're wanting more Appleseed, I suggest looking for the manga. The story is much more complex and will be different from what you remember, but it's one of my favorites. There have been 4 books brought to America so far along with a 2-volume, very rare "Databook" for the die-hard fans ( took me 10 years to find the latter ).

WARNING-The manga ( comic ) IS NOT FOR KIDS!!! In addition to more graphic violence than the anime, three of the four volumes have some brief nudity in them ( not "love scenes," ya pervs! ), so keep any tykes away!

If you liked Appleseed, you might also like Masamune Shirow's other sci-fi that you may have missed: Black Magic M-66, Dominion Tank Police and Ghost in the Shell. All are available in anime and manga form ( though, as with Appleseed, there are major differences between the storyline ) and the same WARNING applies to both formats of these stories as with Appleseed's manga.

For those not familiar with or just getting into anime and manga, pay attention to the ratings and "mature content" labels if you have kids. They're there for a reason and the people stocking the shelves don't always notice them ( as happened at our local Wal-Mart ), assuming all cartoons are rated G..

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I'll probably never find that stuff unless I can find it on eBay ?

As far as I knew, there was only one Appleseed anime video ( soon to be 2? About time! ), but that was only part of the store with storyline elements mixed from 2 story arcs from the manga.

If you're wanting more Appleseed, I suggest looking for the manga. The story is much more complex and will be different from what you remember, but it's one of my favorites. There have been 4 books brought to America so far along with a 2-volume, very rare "Databook" for the die-hard fans ( took me 10 years to find the latter ).

WARNING-The manga ( comic ) IS NOT FOR KIDS!!! In addition to more graphic violence than the anime, three of the four volumes have some brief nudity in them ( not "love scenes," ya pervs! ), so keep any tykes away!

If you liked Appleseed, you might also like Masamune Shirow's other sci-fi that you may have missed: Black Magic M-66, Dominion Tank Police and Ghost in the Shell. All are available in anime and manga form ( though, as with Appleseed, there are major differences between the storyline ) and the same WARNING applies to both formats of these stories as with Appleseed's manga.

For those not familiar with or just getting into anime and manga, pay attention to the ratings and "mature content" labels if you have kids. They're there for a reason and the people stocking the shelves don't always notice them ( as happened at our local Wal-Mart ), assuming all cartoons are rated G..

OH YEAH ! looks great

QUOTE: Originally posted by SewerRat NEW upcoming movie !!!!! NO WAY , that is going to be soooooo awesome , when ????? do tell oh great one .

Here is the official Website for the movie(in japanese) check it out:
http://www.a-seed.jp/

Trailer looks good.

NEW upcoming movie !!!!! NO WAY , that is going to be soooooo awesome , when ????? do tell oh great one .

QUOTE: Originally posted by SewerRat Whatever happened to Appleseed ? it was avalible brifely then disappeared ? Loved that one .

You talking about the 1992 OVA series or the new upcoming Movie (17/04/2004).

Whatever happened to Appleseed ? it was avalible brifely then disappeared ?
Loved that one .

QUOTE: Originally posted by maddafinga My favorite has always been Nausicaa. I love their air battles, the animation is just amazing, and the story is epic.

If you liked Nausicaa, you might take a liik at Miyazaki's other works that have been brought to the States. The only one I've seen is Princess Mononoke ( Disney's biggest import goof and NOT a G-rated cartoon ), but my friends have also recommended Spirited Away. Kiki's Delivery Service is also out there and created by the same guy.

BTW, for you Macross fans out there: Macross Zero is currently being released in Japan and should be imported in the next year or so. Hopefully it will bring about some new kits and re-issues of old ones!

Me too! (and I still play with them)

Remember , Hell I still have all the toys !!!! , is that bad ? LOL

I did enjoy Mcaross(Roboech) when I saw it, but later on prefered the individual series more. Also not too fond of the poor MAcross Series.

Most the Series I enjoy are:
Mospeada
Dougram
Lazyner
Votoms
Ideom
Xabungle
and similar.

I too, loved Macross (Robotech). A bit of a revellation that the American distributors dubbed other shows to fit in with the series, how could they get away with that? Must have peaved the makers of 'Armies of the Southern Cross' and 'Genesis Climber Mospeda'.
Still, it's not entirely a surprise, even as a kid I never really felt that whole series with Dana riding around with her hover bike come battle armour quite fit in with the rest of it.
Don't think we ever got the Mospeda/Robotech one in Australia. What did that look like?

As for the new anime shows. I agree with you Thevinman, I don't like 'em either. But I know that when I sat down to watch Robotech every morning, my dad was thinking, "Yeh but it just ain't Leave it to Beaver"
I think that the biggest difference between Robotech and Dragon Ball is my age. And if Robotech premiered today, I'm sure it would be marketed just as heavily as Dragon Ball and Yu-Gi-Oh. Corporate enterprise is the way of the world now more than ever.
Anyway, I'm gonna do a search for sites on these two extra "Robotech" shows. This is tearing apart the foundations of my childhood. I'm feeling very fragile and in need of answers at the moment (LOL)
"Ignorance is bliss" (Cypher)

QUOTE: Originally posted by dans1120 hehe, I just got the game, Robotech Battlecry today. It's funny how, when I got to the main screen of the game and it played the intro music from the series, all sorts of memories came flooding back. That reminds me, where would I be able to find some Valkyrie kits?

I was the one of the first in line to get Battlecry when it came out for the Playstation 2. I felt like I was a kid again when the intro music started. What did you think of the game? I wished it was more “flight sim” than “arcade”. I wish that someone would make a Valkyrie combat sim.

I’ve been looking for a YF-19 kit for a while with limited success. ebay seems to have a lot of Hasegawa Valkyrie kits (except the YF-19) of course.

My favorite has always been Nausicaa. I love their air battles, the animation is just amazing, and the story is epic.

QUOTE: Originally posted by dans1120 That reminds me, where would I be able to find some valkyrie kits?

Check Hobby Link Japan or Rainbow 10.

hehe, I just got the game, Robotech Battlecry today. It's funny how, when I got to the main screen of the game and it played the intro music from the series, all sorts of memories came flooding back.

That reminds me, where would I be able to find some valkyrie kits?

I have the Macross: Do you remember Love? VF-1S strike valkyre by Hesegawa, very good kit.


I despise macross' english version aka Robotech...

Dang dude! it brings tears to my eyes just reading that. [Yeah, I'm a softie!]That's deep. I saw the movie and I am a father of three small girls. To picture them starving or worse pains me to no end. i also have a step-son who is the oldest. To imagine him having to fend for himself and his youngest sister alone...I shudder to think of it. Man, I thank god that I have never had to suffer like that and i pray that my children never will...

Yeah, I have seen "Tombstone for Fireflies", great movie.

What brings the story even close is that the movie is based on a book whose author wrote it based on his own childhood experiences.

It is pretty much his own story with a few things(his own behaviour towards his sister) being made nicer than they actually happened.

http://www.nausicaa.net/miyazaki/grave/interview.html

Highly recommended viewing.

As a kid Robotec was my equivalent of my mother's soap operas!LOL
Right now at home I have The Captain Harlock Saga sitting in my DVD player. It's like Star Blazers but with space pirates!

I attend an anime convention every year in Atlanta, Georgia. In fact my Marvin the Martian Gundam won me an award!LOL [Hence my name!]
I love anime and what I really like is that Japan treat it as a true art form and creat all sorts of serious shows in anime like the one with the teenager raising the kid mentioned above. Has anyone ever seen Graveyard of the Fire Flies [ I think thats the title], it's a tear jerker!
Yes, much anime sci fi is better that most US live action sci-fi. A per fect example is Gun Buster! Giant oraganic aliens the size of star ships act as the galaxies "anti-bodies" and come form the center of the galaxy to destroy the earth because space travel was allowing us to spread like an infection. The humans compress jupitor into a moon sized bomb and detonate it in the center of the galaxy!
Neon Genisis, is also awsome sci-fi as well.

thevinman.

I must have done something right with my 3yr old son, he hardly asks for character toys.

Granted the occasional McDonald Happy Meal with Pichu or similar, but everytime we go to the toy and hobby shop all he wants to look at is Tomica andPla-Rail.

He has seen all the series, he knows the toys but is not interested in them.
OTOH, he loves to inspect the pile of my models, open the boxes pull the instructions out and tell me all about the kit.

QUOTE: Originally posted by Gundamhead There's the Saturady morning type shows still, Pokemon, Yugi-o, and Zoids are the new "80's" style anime toy commercials. The way Transformers, Thundercats, Voltron, and GI-Joe were.

I agree, but it’s a matter of degree. Yu-gi-oh and Pokemon are designed to promote huge lines products to an extreme. We’re not talking about a few dozen action figures or robots here, but a never ending universe of collectibles! It’s crazy. It’s the type of thing that scares me out of having kids!

Cowboy Bebop is fine anime, that finally got some attention it deserved.
Patlabor is fine anime, but gets little attention.
Gundam 0080 War in the Pocket is fine anime. It gets overshadowed by other Gundam shows.
Macross Plus is fine anime. The whole Robotech vs. Macross thing drowns it out.
There's more good anime than people might think. Better than most sci-fi there is really.


There's the Saturady morning type shows still, Pokemon, Yugi-o, and Zoids are the new "80's" style anime toy commercials. The way Transformers, Thundercats, Voltron, and GI-Joe were.

QUOTE: Originally posted by thevinman Sux to be an Anime fan in the US. I gotta move to Japan of these days! (My wife spent 6 months on a business assignment in Yokohama.) She loved it and wants to go back.

Sure, come over. Great place, I also love it here as long as I can avoid the centre of Tokyo(Shinjuku, Shibuya, Roppongi, etc.)


Some great touring to be done here too, and the Bikes are cheap especially 2nd-hand.

Sux to be an Anime fan in the US. I gotta move to Japan of these days! (My wife spent 6 months on a business assignment in Yokohama.) She loved it and wants to go back.

Thanks for the Gasaraki tip. I'll check it out!

QUOTE: Originally posted by thevinman Undoubtedly. I'm a huge Anime fan. I just got the Neon Genesis Evangelion box set. HIGHLY RECOMMNDED WATCH!!!

Get hold of Gasaraki and than cry because bandai is no longer producing the Robot kits.

QUOTE: But I was referring to the Saturday morning cartoon genre. You can’t have kids watching most unedited anime as its intended audience is truly adults. I just can’t stand any more Yu-gi-oh and Pokemon marketing orgy type cartoons!

For that you have to blame the people overseas who import the wrong stuff.
My Son watches a lot of quality Anime on TV & Cable here, designed for the kids.
They got Anime over here rated from age-group 2 to 97 and any flavour/genre you could want.

Problem is that most people overseas only know the Porn or the Enthusiasts stuff like Cowboy Bepop and so on. And of course the stuff that is used to sell goods thanks to Bandai who now has a marketing tie-up with Mattel.

One series I love to watch with my Son is "Aka-chan to Boku" (Baby and me), it is about a young teen whose Mother died and he now has to learn to look after his little 3yr old brother while his father is at work. Very true to life and we all enjoy it, of course no goods will be sold by stuff like that, hence no showing overseas.
http://www.geocities.com/SamNuni/Wisdom/AnimeBaby.html

But there are many series like this out there.

Also if you want some good Anime have a look at Studio Gibhli, some great stuff including the series in which the founders of the company were involved.

Undoubtedly. I'm a huge Anime fan. I just got the Neon Genesis Evangelion box set. HIGHLY RECOMMNDED WATCH!!! btw

But I was referring to the Saturday morning cartoon genre. You can’t have kids watching most unedited anime as its intended audience is truly adults. I just can’t stand any more Yu-gi-oh and Pokemon marketing orgy type cartoons!

QUOTE: Originally posted by thevinman Where all the quality cartoons these days?!

They are still out there, but no longer being renamed and shown under their true classification. "Anime".