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Posted by Woody on Sunday, December 21, 2003 7:14 PM
Steven, I've built a few of the SFB minis (quite a few, LOL) and was wondering if that was what you were talking about. I've seen your Lyran cruiser, very nice indeed! Do you have plans for the Lyran cruiser? Cheers, Woody (Life long SFB fan)

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, December 22, 2003 6:06 PM
Alas, the Lyran cruiser in the pic was traded away to a friend years ago. Later I had started a smaller scale Hydran Ranger, but lost what I had been working on.
The SFB minis sure were fun weren't they? You could collect fleets of them with minimal space. Have you considered any SFB themed conversions of the PL Enterprise?
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Posted by Woody on Tuesday, December 23, 2003 7:48 PM
Steven, I want to start kitbashing the PL kit but I hadn't considered looking to SFB for ideas. I want to stick to 1/1000 scale but I have been buying up any ST kits I can find. My current ambition is to do the Botany Bay in 1/1000 scale. The next thing I'd like to try is the Kobyasho Maru. There was a website that sold vac kits of SFB kits. Have you ever run across that site?

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 23, 2003 8:16 PM
That might be McDaniel models.Cory had some SFB themed stuff there, plus more he was promising. I'll see if I can find the link. In the meantime, here's the lnk to the SFB carrier at Starship Schematics: http://www.shipschematics.net/startrek/images/federation/heavycarrier_napoleon.jpg
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, December 23, 2003 8:26 PM
Woody, Cory's site does have them listed at www.mcdanielmodels.com. He's had a few problems though with not shipping things in a timely fashion. You could also try www.pntmodels.com for some conversion kits and decals. Also look here: http://www.starshipmodeler.net/cgi-bin/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=12744&sid=a486690ad6bc7eb03e5811ad69832766
I should stop spending your money for you!Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Woody on Tuesday, December 23, 2003 8:35 PM
That's the site! I remember the Gorn ship. Thanks a million Steve.Big Smile [:D] Do you know of anyone that puts out 1/1000 kits other than PL?

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, December 24, 2003 1:37 PM
Nothing other than the Excelsior/Ent. B from ERTL, now OOP. They're not too hard to fiind, though. Did more puttying today, hopefully priming over weekend. Have a good Christmas eve.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, January 1, 2004 11:51 AM
Finally I have managed to put the first coat of primer on it and it looks like a ship! Minus the warp engines in these pics. I still have puttying and fine sanding still to do, and gluing on of small details. The aft shot shows the model railroad piece glued to the "butt" and puttied in as the impulse engines. here's the links:
http://rongeorge.com/albums/upload/carrierprimed_001.sized.jpg
http://rongeorge.com/albums/upload/carrierbottom.sized.jpg
http://rongeorge.com/albums/upload/carrieraft.sized.jpg
http://rongeorge.com/albums/upload/carrierside.jpg
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Posted by Woody on Thursday, January 1, 2004 9:33 PM
Looking good Steven! Thanks for sharing and Happy New Year!Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 2, 2004 5:07 PM
Are you still looking for suggestions on where to put the photorp launchers? If so, i would suggest you consider the forward launchers could go in the small space you have on the secondary hull directly underneath the impulse engines. One on either side would do nicely, I think. For technical accuracy's sake, the firing arc would be limited because of the primary hull, but it would look keen. You have enough secondary hull space that you could mount 1, possibly 2 side by side aft launchers on the dorsal side of the secondary hull, perhaps set back just a smidge from the rear shuttlebay doors.

Something else to think about....since I'm sure that carriers in Picard's day are still bomb magnets, I would suggest adding a group of phaser strips on the secondary hull, to keep with the thinking that this type of vessel would be a high value target. Don't forget the ventral side as well.

There's my 2 cents. Hope it helps.

Mike

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 2, 2004 6:21 PM
Thanks for the input Mike. I'll consider that and a few other suggestions I'm gathering. I've already made a few phaser strips. I'm putting one medium length dorsal strip just behind the saucer. I was playing with two short ones above the recovery bay, either side. I'm putting an "observation platfrom"in the middle. The suggestion's been made to put 2 strips on the warp engines instead......any thoughts on that?
The other place for torps is in the middle "pocket" between the impulse engines. I also need to place a torp launcher forward arc somewhere on the sec. hull, top or bottom. I have thought about this big lumbering beast floating out there as a very tasty target as well, so all arcs need to be covered. It should be able to stand alone, as well as with its escorts. Thanks again for the interest.
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, January 2, 2004 6:24 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Woody

Looking good Steven! Thanks for sharing and Happy New Year!Big Smile [:D]


Thanks Woody and Happy New Year to you, too. More pics to come later.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, January 3, 2004 5:48 PM
Pretty cool stuff!! Valley Forge, eh? An excellent name for a CV!!
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, January 4, 2004 6:52 PM
Thanks. I think the name just fits it. I do need a class name so I need some suggestions.
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Posted by Woody on Wednesday, February 11, 2004 10:22 PM
Hey Steven, Did I miss the pics of the completed carrier? Smile [:)]

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 12, 2004 7:21 PM
Sorry Woody, Not much time to work on it lately. It seems that every time I look at it I find another spot to re-putty. Just being anal I guess. I am real close to addind final detail, re-priming and then I'll paint it. Thanks for the "nudge" though.Smile [:)]
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Posted by Woody on Thursday, February 12, 2004 8:05 PM
Just wanted to make sure I hadn't missed the shake down flight! LOL

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Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Tuesday, February 17, 2004 3:32 AM
I came to check on your progress as well Steven Q! Looking good. Haven't been to area of the forum lately since the "Dark Side" has been dominating my destiny of late. I love how you maintained the "oraganic" lines of the ship. It looks even more organic than the Enterprise D. It looks like some type giganic power ful sea creature. Very graceful lines. Love it!
"Some men look at things the way they are and ask ' Why?'. I dream of things that never were and ask "Why not?".--Robert Kennedy taken from George Bernard Shaw's "Back To Methuselah" (Thanks to TomZ2) http://martiangundammodels.50megs.com/index.html
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 8:08 PM
Getting closer, Woody. I actually worked some more on final puttying this last weekend. Getting in around the launch bays was a pain, but it is done. Martian, thanks, I've been thinking the same thing about the shape. It reminds me of one of the sea-going dinosaurs from that Discovery Channel special a while ago. This might help me think of a class name for it.

I'll post more pics when I can.
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Posted by Woody on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 8:28 PM
That's great news Steven! Cool [8D] How about Orca class? Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Wednesday, February 18, 2004 11:29 PM
Or "Gracie Class" after the waht from "The Voyage Home". I know it's wierd but that is one of the images that comes to mind. "Orca" class does sound cooler though. All the dinasaur reference I can think of are too long.Shy [8)]
"Some men look at things the way they are and ask ' Why?'. I dream of things that never were and ask "Why not?".--Robert Kennedy taken from George Bernard Shaw's "Back To Methuselah" (Thanks to TomZ2) http://martiangundammodels.50megs.com/index.html
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 19, 2004 7:20 PM
It got me to thinking...............how'bout Leviathan Class?
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Posted by ilikespagetti on Thursday, February 19, 2004 8:03 PM
this is kinda off the subject of the carrier but what did you use to make your borg cube?
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, February 19, 2004 9:47 PM
Check it out here: http://starshipmodeler.org/gallery4/sm_borg.htm
It was quite a project.
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Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Thursday, February 19, 2004 11:56 PM
Leviathan Class IS cool. It's very appropriate. Love the cube! I read [I beleive it was in my TreK Encyclopedia] that the original studio model was made from old modle sprues/frames with bits from the parts bin added.
"Some men look at things the way they are and ask ' Why?'. I dream of things that never were and ask "Why not?".--Robert Kennedy taken from George Bernard Shaw's "Back To Methuselah" (Thanks to TomZ2) http://martiangundammodels.50megs.com/index.html
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, February 20, 2004 5:06 PM
I opted not to use model sprue so that it didn't look like, well, model sprue. Its all Evergreen styrene rod bent at angles. My brain was assimilated in the process!Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by MartianGundamModeler on Friday, February 20, 2004 11:07 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by StevenQ

I opted not to use model sprue so that it didn't look like, well, model sprue. Its all Evergreen styrene rod bent at angles. My brain was assimilated in the process!Big Smile [:D]


Yeah that's why i have never attempted one from model sprue!LOL The TV/movie screen hides ALOT of fine details.
"Some men look at things the way they are and ask ' Why?'. I dream of things that never were and ask "Why not?".--Robert Kennedy taken from George Bernard Shaw's "Back To Methuselah" (Thanks to TomZ2) http://martiangundammodels.50megs.com/index.html
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Posted by ilikespagetti on Saturday, February 21, 2004 9:44 PM
yeah i tried making one before and i couldn't get it to look right
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 22, 2004 4:59 PM
The cube took me about 6 months to make. I couldn't work on it for too long at once for obvious reasons. I specifily did not want the sprue look, and all I had for research at the time was a collector card of the Borg and playing the BOBW episode over and over.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, February 22, 2004 5:02 PM
And for those that didn't see this over the Holidays, Christmas Borg:


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