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Posted by Flint on Sunday, September 9, 2018 5:56 PM

The only reason I've always questioned the Nelson Chequer  paint scheme is that there seems to be several different ideas about what it actually was. Some (authors) say it was black on the underside of the gunports (ochre on top), others say it was black on the outside, and some just say the "gunports were black". It won't matter to my build, but it's always been something I wasn't totally convinced by. Mind you, there's several other aspects of Victory I'm not  too sure about either. There's a lot of 'probably' and 'likely' when it comes to this ship.    

I've had to study a lot of paintings before even starting my build. But, that'll be another thread soon. Because just like overpriced coffee shops these days, there's just not enough Victory build logs. Propeller

 

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  • From: Philadelphia Pa
Posted by Nino on Monday, September 10, 2018 2:35 PM

  RE: " I've had to study a lot of paintings before even starting my build. But, that'll be another thread soon. Because just like overpriced coffee shops these days, there's just not enough Victory build logs."

 

     I think the study of paintings is a great way to go. Details of exactly what changed and when is a fun project. Unfortunately  you may never get the kit built spending time collecting various "proofs".

     There are actually quite a few Build logs out there; some from foreign sites and some from various American forums.  These "Builds" can take years to be completed, so not a lot that are Complete.  Even then, if you want to follow the Research and Build of  another Modeler, that specific time frame chosen may not be your "Cup-of-Coffee".

      The colors of the ship did vary quite a bit. As Launched: side planks were not painted in streaks, but ‘payed’ with a "single broad band of yellow-brown varnish." and they were painted "black and mustard yellow in 1780".    And then in 1805 the Nelson Checker pattern appeared. In 1816 it was a Black and White scheme.  For thoses in-between years of 1767 thru 1816 I bet she had many different looks based on every Captain re-painting the ship about every year.  This year it is Captain Don Stauffer.   So, beautiful Ochre bands it is.

Hey,  even the Box Art from half the  manufacturers did it Don's way:

Airfix, Bandai, Entex, Lindberg, Revell:

 

 

And the other half with the Checker pattern......

(The Heller 1/100 kit- is not pictured. Note: the rare Revell kit, upper left, is actually based on a Lindberg 1/333ish mold, not the Revell 1/225 mold.

    Nino.

P.S. Yes, I know, the OEM's get it wrong too often. And I've been told you can't base it on Art work and yet, look at all the Paintings we do depend on for so many historical ships.  Many artists based their color paintings on sketches they drew.  The sketches were B&W! The colors were from memory. 

So, what 'colour" is your wife's tooth brush? Can you remember exactly ?

(Colour:English spelling, it's an English ship!)

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, September 10, 2018 3:29 PM

When Turner painted his massive The Battle of Trafalgar work in 1822-1824, it was based on earlier drawings in black and white he'd made shortly after she returned to England.

Because he had the misfortune of it being displayed in the Greenwich Hospital, everyone who "was there" had an opinion, and he ended up repainting quite a bit of it.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: Philadelphia Pa
Posted by Nino on Monday, September 10, 2018 3:50 PM

Thanks GM,  Excellent example.

The closed Gun ports look Ochre to me.  Well Done Don!

 

 

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, September 10, 2018 3:58 PM

As far as the "I was there" factor, I once asked my F-I-L what colors his AAF Beaufighter was painted, since all of his photos of it were B/W.

"How the heck would I know. I was too busy climbing in and out of it".

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, September 18, 2018 12:23 PM

OKay, it is finished!

Here are a couple of photos.  The weather is rainy all week.  I may try to get a few sunlit shots next week.

Here is a closer shot.  Unfortunately, even at f/16 I may have run out of depth of field, or else some missed focus- my basement is really dark today.  Zoomed in to show crew :-)

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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  • From: Philadelphia Pa
Posted by Nino on Tuesday, September 18, 2018 1:35 PM

Thank You Don.

 

    I was relegating my kit to a bottle so no one could see my mistakes thru the curved glass, but the kit can look great.  I will now have to strive at getting it done as you did without an empty bottle. I mean without putting the ship in one...  I may still need to empty one , the right way of course.

 

 

 

     Nino

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Posted by JurS on Tuesday, September 18, 2018 2:22 PM

That looks gorgeous, Don. Great job!

With it in full sail, you might want some 1/450 sailors on board!

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Posted by steve5 on Tuesday, September 18, 2018 2:29 PM

very nice indeed don , love the water base .

 

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Posted by Flint on Tuesday, September 18, 2018 6:11 PM

That looks great Don. What's next for you? 

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Posted by 1943Mike on Tuesday, September 18, 2018 11:14 PM

Fine work!

How you can work at that scale is beyond me.

I much prefer the colors you've used than the restoration colors.

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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Posted by templar1099 on Wednesday, September 19, 2018 4:47 AM

Nicely done all around Don.

"le plaisir delicieux et toujours nouveau d'une occupation inutile"

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  • From: Towson MD
Posted by gregbale on Wednesday, September 19, 2018 7:59 AM

The entire build (and the thought processes behind it) is just superb...and the water base is just the icing on the cake!

A really gorgeous piece of artistry!

Greg

George Lewis:

"Every time you correct me on my grammar I love you a little fewer."
 
  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Wednesday, September 19, 2018 8:36 AM

JurS

That looks gorgeous, Don. Great job!

With it in full sail, you might want some 1/450 sailors on board!

 

Well, I couldn't find 1:450 sailers, but I did put 1:500 ones aboard, if you look close at second pic.  I figured people were smaller that long ago, right?

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Flint on Thursday, September 20, 2018 12:04 PM

Nino

Thanks GM,  Excellent example.

The closed Gun ports look Ochre to me.  Well Done Don!

  

 

 

I was up at the National Maritime museum today and saw this. The gun ports are painted ochre underneath too! 

 

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  • From: St.Peters,Mo.
Posted by Mark Carroll on Friday, September 21, 2018 10:09 PM

Beautiful job!

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Posted by gene1 on Monday, October 1, 2018 3:11 PM

Absolutely beautiful Don. I just don't know how you can work that well in such a small model. Do you think you will do another small one? 

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, October 2, 2018 8:59 AM

gene1

Absolutely beautiful Don. I just don't know how you can work that well in such a small model. Do you think you will do another small one? 

 

Probably.  I still have three of those old Heller 1:600 kits.  Depends if I can find PE shrouds/ratlines appropriate for it.  The set I bought for the Victory might work.  There were several smaller pieces left over, but not enough to do a whole ship.

 

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by keavdog on Tuesday, October 2, 2018 10:32 AM

That turned out nice!  

Thanks,

John

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Wednesday, October 3, 2018 9:33 AM

Flint

That looks great Don. What's next for you? 

 

I am working on an airplane and a piece of armor now.  But next year will be a year of ships, concentrating on that genre.  Next ship on the bench will be the Revell kit of Cook's Endeavor.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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