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USS The Sullivans by Trumpeter . . . The Ultimate Building Guide

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  • Member since
    September 2005
  • From: Groton, CT
USS The Sullivans by Trumpeter . . . The Ultimate Building Guide
Posted by warshipguy on Sunday, May 24, 2009 7:26 PM

I received this kit as a gift yesterday.  I have heard vaguely that there are many problems with the kit but I have not heard just what these problems are. So, I thought that I would appeal to the expertise to be found on this site for specific recommendations to improve this kit the same way that many of us have done for Le Soleil Royal.

Given the excellence of the Gleaves and Benson class Destroyers by Dragon, and the Fletcher by Tamiya, I thought that it would be nice to have a square bridge Fletcher class ship to the same standards.

Thanks!

Bill Morrison

  • Member since
    August 2005
  • From: Mansfield, TX
Posted by EdGrune on Sunday, May 24, 2009 7:52 PM
 warshipguy wrote:

I received this kit as a gift yesterday.  I have heard vaguely that there are many problems with the kit but I have not heard just what these problems are. So, I thought that I would appeal to the expertise to be found on this site for specific recommendations to improve this kit the same way that many of us have done for Le Soleil Royal.

Thanks!

Bill Morrison

Sand all the molded walkways from the deck.   They should be like sandpaper/rubber antislip pads,  not like raised concrete sidewalks.  Fill all the mounting holes while you're at it

Replace all the 20mm guns.   The kit ones are made to fit the 10 foot tall US sailors from WWII.  No wonder we beat them little foreigners.  If you want to do the 1945 appearance the single-barrel option is incorrect.

Replace all the 40mm guns.   The kit ones are little more than sticks on boxes.   No muzzle flair, no recoil springs.

Throw away the quintuple torpedo tubes.   Too skinny and spaced too far apart.

The bulkhead details are inconsistent.   Some hatches are well done,  others are too large or too faint.

Do something about the grilles on the stacks.   They are grossly oversized.

The MK51 directors are ... well just wrong.

The hull shape isn't too bad, and once you sand the decks and bulkheads and add detail back -- you will be in a good place to start reworking the armament.

The best on-stop-shop for replacement stuff is the L'Arsenal set.  Single & double 20s.   Better and more detailed 40s -- for both twin & quad mounts.   Great MK51.  There is a problem with the torpedo tubes.   Both banks have the protective can.    Get a set  from Yankee Modelworks.   The Tamiya stacks are better.    The best are in one of the Yankee Modelworks resin Fletcher kits.  The L'Arsenal also includes a great pe fret, the equal to or better than Gold Medal

 

  • Member since
    September 2005
  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Sunday, May 24, 2009 8:10 PM

EdGrune,

Wow!!  Thanks for the thorough response!

Bill Morrison

  • Member since
    July 2008
Posted by ModelWarships on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 9:47 AM

Here is a review of what is included in the L'Arsenal USS The Sullivans update set.

Also see the Calling All Ship Fans section of the ModelWarships.com forum for all the info you need on building a Fletcher.

Timothy Dike

Owner and founder

ModelWarships.com

  • Member since
    September 2005
  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Wednesday, May 27, 2009 10:22 AM

Great sites!  Thanks!

Bill Morrison

  • Member since
    August 2008
Posted by tankerbuilder on Friday, June 12, 2009 7:50 AM
 HI ED ! all I can say is catch my comments  on this and the TAMIYA ship I just posted this a.m. IN other words , as to your comments HEAR ! HEAR ! tankerbuilder
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