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1/200 Trumpeter Sovremenny Destroyer
Posted by Glue Mark on Saturday, June 12, 2010 5:07 PM

Hi Everyone!

Well, I'm a big scale addict, so it was only a matter of time until I found the Russian Trumpeter. Or is it the Trumpeter Russian? Anyway, I'm about 80% complete on the 1/350 North Carolina I've been working on for at least month now (I'm retired, so I can obsess on these things), swearing that I'll never buy another Trumpeter kit again (thick attach points on the sprues, mediocre fit with big parts, etc), when my 1/200 search on eBay brings the Sovremenny into my view.

 All the kit reviews were encouraging, I found a decent price on line ($90), so it's on the way. I've seen some threads on here about it, some pics included, but no real build commentary.  I'm wondering that with 847 parts, what do you folks who have tried this kit think of it?

I'm thinking it's going to be about 6 months to get this one together, averaging about 4 hours build time a day.

Thanks!

Rusty

   

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  • From: Windy city, US
Posted by keilau on Sunday, June 13, 2010 8:49 PM

Glue Mark

Hi Everyone!

Well, I'm a big scale addict, so it was only a matter of time until I found the Russian Trumpeter. Or is it the Trumpeter Russian? Anyway, I'm about 80% complete on the 1/350 North Carolina I've been working on for at least month now (I'm retired, so I can obsess on these things), swearing that I'll never buy another Trumpeter kit again (thick attach points on the sprues, mediocre fit with big parts, etc), when my 1/200 search on eBay brings the Sovremenny into my view.

 All the kit reviews were encouraging, I found a decent price on line ($90), so it's on the way. I've seen some threads on here about it, some pics included, but no real build commentary.  I'm wondering that with 847 parts, what do you folks who have tried this kit think of it?

I'm thinking it's going to be about 6 months to get this one together, averaging about 4 hours build time a day.

Thanks!

Rusty

My post about this kit last year.

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  • From: Thailand
Posted by Model Maniac on Monday, June 14, 2010 8:47 AM

Sovremenny Class Destroyer is my favorite warships. I have one 1:350 and two 1:200 (type 956 & 956E) built (by the same modeler - Niphon) and still have one 1:200 unbuilt. I got the 1:200s some 7 years ago at 1,800.- baht each (at that time it was 40 baht /$1, or $45,; right now it'll be $56 since baht has got stronger), a true value for money. But $90 is still a good price considering the PE parts provided in the box. These were built OOB:

Impressive Songs:

All 10 Playlists that I created on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/user/ModelManiacThailand/playlists

Pan Flute Music (300 songs) (Most Popular, over 100K views):

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUNb2zPxGTZO7alagEPsEMzgBkWt4-vKV

El Condor Pasa (Top 50) (World's most famous and my most favorite song):

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUNb2zPxGTZOLKHbju350mLle4HkMhsb8

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Posted by plasticaddict on Monday, June 14, 2010 8:53 AM

Rusty hi,

I plan to buy one if these too.

From what I read about this kit on the net is that it is not for rivet-counters as the hull (along with some other minor stuff - that is minor for me) is not accurate. Other than that, all who have built it sound very happy with the quality.

I don't really care about this inaccuracy and probably will buy the kit; it will be my winter project.

As for the price; they retail at about USD 70.- here.

Cem.

 

 

 

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Posted by Glue Mark on Monday, June 14, 2010 9:04 AM

Wow! Where did you see it for $70? I'm looking for a 1/350 Kirov as well. Tower has one for $90, maybe your source has a better price.

R. 

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Posted by Glue Mark on Monday, June 14, 2010 10:17 AM

Beautiful ships, MM! This kit will be my first attempt at some PE parts. Any advice?  R.

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Monday, June 14, 2010 1:19 PM

Heck I think I got mine for $30 US about 4 years ago from Ebay.

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15   http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Posted by Glue Mark on Monday, June 14, 2010 1:54 PM

Hi Mike-

They're going for 4 times that these days on ebay. How many hours do you figure it took for you to finish it? With 800+ parts, I'm guessing I'll have about 7-800 hours in it by the time I'm finished. I've never tried anything like that before. Rivals building and rigging a 1/96 Cutty Sark or U.S.S. Constitution!   

 Rusty 

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  • From: Kincheloe Michigan
Posted by Mikeym_us on Monday, June 14, 2010 6:59 PM

After 4 years I'm still on the superstructure. Did finish the Helicopter though.

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15   http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Posted by Glue Mark on Monday, June 14, 2010 7:45 PM

Thanks for the chuckle, that's some dry wit there!  R.

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Posted by Model Maniac on Monday, June 14, 2010 9:05 PM

Glue Mark

Beautiful ships, MM! This kit will be my first attempt at some PE parts. Any advice?  R.

 

Thanks, Rusty! Since I didn't build them myself, my only advice for you is to take your time, no need to rush. Niphon (who built these beautiful ships) has been working on another ship for over a year and still not finished. It's Hasegawa's IJN Battleship Matsu 1:350 w/ full option upgrade kits (3 big PE sheets, brass barrels, resin boats). I think overall parts are over 2,000 (parts).

It was my most expensive plastic model kit (over $300) until I got the IJN Akagi 1:350 recently. With upgrade sets A, B, C and super detail set, it costs more than the Matsu already. I think the 6 big PE sheets scare most modelers.

Looking forward to seeing the progress of your build.

MM

Impressive Songs:

All 10 Playlists that I created on Youtube:

http://www.youtube.com/user/ModelManiacThailand/playlists

Pan Flute Music (300 songs) (Most Popular, over 100K views):

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUNb2zPxGTZO7alagEPsEMzgBkWt4-vKV

El Condor Pasa (Top 50) (World's most famous and my most favorite song):

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUNb2zPxGTZOLKHbju350mLle4HkMhsb8

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    May 2010
Posted by plasticaddict on Tuesday, June 15, 2010 5:39 AM

Glue Mark

Wow! Where did you see it for $70? I'm looking for a 1/350 Kirov as well. Tower has one for $90, maybe your source has a better price.

R. 

Hi R,

USD 70.- (actually 65 something) is the discounted price here in Istanbul. Unfortunately shipping would be pretty steep as the box is huge.

Cem.

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Posted by plasticaddict on Tuesday, June 15, 2010 5:46 AM

Glue Mark

Beautiful ships, MM! This kit will be my first attempt at some PE parts. Any advice?  R.

I don't know if I qualify to advice but here's my limited experience with PE:

- Get yourself a pair of long and sharp scissors.

- Be very patient.

- Use fresh CA - and always check the joints.

- Make sure you work on the table, not on your lap.

- Don't be afraid Cool it's a ball to work with PE.

Cem.

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Posted by archelon on Tuesday, June 15, 2010 9:36 AM

I really like the  Soviet Cold-War era ships and I've been working on this one off/on for about 5 years now (I did at least get the Admiral Kuznetsov complete in the meantime). I'm about halfway done. I see what you are saying about the sometimes bizarre way in which parts are attached, but it's been a fun build.

A few words of caution however- there are some inaccuracies, (the Ak-130s are wrong, but WEM has nice replacements) and a few online tutorials that are essentially rebuilds of the kit (try http://www.kipperboxes.co.uk/html/sovremenny.html  for starters) .  I tried a few of the changes, but it seemed to get past the fun part of putting together a model. I guess it's one's choice as to how much they want to tackle.

The 200 scale is s a bit odd, but it works, this builds up to a nice size that has some "sense of the details"

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Posted by Glue Mark on Tuesday, June 15, 2010 2:09 PM

Wow! I checked out the kipper link, and it's amazing what that fellow is doing to that model! I won't try most of that, but he makes some good points.  R.

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Posted by keilau on Tuesday, June 15, 2010 9:45 PM

Glue Mark

Wow! Where did you see it for $70? I'm looking for a 1/350 Kirov as well. Tower has one for $90, maybe your source has a better price.

R. 

You can still get it for $56 in Hong Kong from Lucky Models. However, the shipping to US is a whopping $45. It is a big box.

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Posted by Harshman II on Tuesday, June 15, 2010 10:07 PM

keilau

 Glue Mark:

Wow! Where did you see it for $70? I'm looking for a 1/350 Kirov as well. Tower has one for $90, maybe your source has a better price.

R. 

 

You can still get it for $56 in Hong Kong from Lucky Models. However, the shipping to US is a whopping $45. It is a big box.

 

Now they are having free shipping to USA for 7th Anniversary sales

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Posted by Glue Mark on Tuesday, June 15, 2010 10:20 PM

I found a Kirov on eBay for $80 with free shipping from WA, so I grabbed it. Not sure which one I'll build first.  Looking for a build review of it but only in box reviews seem to be available.  R. 

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Posted by Glue Mark on Thursday, June 17, 2010 2:36 PM

Hello All!

It arrived today in a huge box, no doubt what it was! Lots of sprues! The hull will need some work. The sensor pod on the bow has a large, irregular surface (flat spots, wavey areas) on the port side. Starbord not so bad, but I think I can fill and sand to correct. The main mast is PE, but the two large sensor arrays on top are not; bit of a dissappointment there. Sprue attach points look to be smaller than the North Carolina build I just finished, so some relief there.

All in all looks good; proof will be in the pudding as they say!

Rusty 

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Posted by Dave1974 on Friday, December 6, 2013 2:15 PM

Can anybody give me the height of the 1:200 scale hull please ? I am considering buying this kit to convert to Radio Control. Thanks in advance.

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Posted by keilau on Monday, December 9, 2013 4:19 PM

Dave1974

Can anybody give me the height of the 1:200 scale hull please ? I am considering buying this kit to convert to Radio Control. Thanks in advance.

If it is for R/C, take a look at this Ebay offer.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RC-Radio-Remote-Control-HT-2879-Warship-Destroyer-Battleship-Naval-Military-Boat-/171186224155?pt=Radio_Control_Vehicles&hash=item27db7e7c1b#ht_705wt_861

Yes, it is a poor replicate of the 1:200 scale Sovremenny. I have one and it compares quite well side-by-side with the Trumpeter model kit. Yes, it has many inaccuracy and the manufacturer/seller call it "SMASHER Battleship". You will find the same R/C ship being sold at twice the price from seller who calls it the "Sovremenny". (Go figure.)

While the representation is poor, it is much more rugged for R/C and runs quite well in water for its $50+ price. And there is nothing to hold you back from improving it using the Trumpeter parts. Good luck.

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