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1st Model in 40 yrs - 1/350 Yamato

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  • Member since
    March 2003
  • From: Rain USA, Vancouver WA
Posted by tigerman on Tuesday, May 31, 2011 12:02 PM

The people are much smarter then the judges. Wink

Absolutely stunning work. That PE is incredible. I can't believe it's been 40 years since you last built.

I hope you start Bismarck next, that would be a great follow-up to this sweet build. Cool

   http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y269/wing_nut_5o/PANZERJAGERGB.jpg

 Eric 

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    September 2007
  • From: Truro Nova Scotia, Canada
Posted by SuppressionFire on Tuesday, May 31, 2011 11:50 AM

Avoid reprisals!

From experience it will never work out. Clubs that hold contests are like kids in a sandbox, they are comfortable with their own & their unique style of play.

What you should do:

Enter the Yamato in a different contest for your own piece of mind. You know the effort & skill involved, see if a different venue will reward the ship accordingly.

Color of the deck? That is the lamest excuse for points deductions I have ever heard! Exact shades & colors are subjective and should only be deductions if the color is completely out to lunch. Many 'Blue Hue' Panzers have won top awards, I have yet to see dark gray weather to a blue color...

I know exactly how you feel.

After putting a entire winter's modeling effort into a Marder II (bugger of a kit to boot) It never even placed at a contest out west in 2009! The winner was a ringer who had his converted LAV 8 wheeled APC featured in that months Extreme Modeling Mag. Actually he entered 2, third place went to a club` member. All good as mine made `Great Scale Modeling 2010` While the others did not.

I posted pictures here, asked for critique and was told one road wheel was off the tracks. Well I corrected the mistake & hid another in deeper snow. My Marder II at CAMS took `Best light Armour` 

The system used is flawed in that the model should earn merit on its own, not looked at for flaws. Mistakes should be points deducted, not compared to a professional model builder`s resin prototype.

The best system I have found for model contests is where each model is removed from the room to be judged. At least 5 judges assign scores for its merits compared to their ideal build of the kit in question. The highest score & lowest are discarded, the rest averaged for the final score. The metals are assigned Olympic`style  that is only 1 Gold, 1 Silver & 1 Bronze per category. Only a exact tie merits 2 awards of said level, rare as the scores are calculated to the first decimal point. I prefer this as it allows for nicer awards vrs everyone getting something. (That is fine for the Jr. entries, not adult competition)

Jason

 

 

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  • From: Central Florida
Posted by plasticjunkie on Tuesday, May 31, 2011 11:42 AM

The judges have to take into account the compexity of your build which in my book is a Gold Winner. I see this kind of thing going on at shows and it s a pitty that you were robbed of a Gold 1st place award. The deck color not right? Was this judge ever on the Yamato? We can only strive to approximate our models to the actual prototype. You did a fantastic job.Beer

 

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Too many models to build, not enough time in a lifetime!!

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Posted by TD4438 on Tuesday, May 31, 2011 11:01 AM

As nice as it may be,there is no way that resin kit (what is it anyway?) beats your Yamato.No way!

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Posted by Firedeck on Tuesday, May 31, 2011 10:42 AM

Hi guys...and Bill and Jason! 

Yes, it was a GREAT experience my first contest...and I met some wonderful people with similiar interests and passions and saw some amazing works of art (thats what they are in my view, works of art)  and to win best of show as voted on by the other judges and entrants, was a HUGE honor for me! I went home pleased and proud... and best of all, I made a couple of new friends! Great day!

Cheers!

 

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  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Tuesday, May 31, 2011 6:44 AM

Firedeck,

Man, you set the standard that we should all strive for! I'm proud of you!

Bill

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  • From: Truro Nova Scotia, Canada
Posted by SuppressionFire on Tuesday, May 31, 2011 6:22 AM

Who won gold?

A modeler who makes 'masters' or prototypes for 'Resin Shipyard' Basically a professional. Great work, best resin ships anywhere yet I feel because his work is... work. The entries should be delegated to 'Display Only'

Funny thing is the awards are a points system with multiple 'Gold, Silver & Bronze' depending on points scored, it was NOT Olympic style IE only one of each / category... I feel the Yamato should have scored 'Gold'

Not to 'hijack' the thread, the Yamato speaks for its self. World class work, more impressive the fact he has not been building models for decades.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/razordws/GB%20Badges/WMIIIGBsmall.jpg

 

 

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Posted by TD4438 on Tuesday, May 31, 2011 6:08 AM

If this took second in it's class,what grabbed first?

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  • From: Truro Nova Scotia, Canada
Posted by SuppressionFire on Tuesday, May 31, 2011 5:57 AM

LOL! (Laughing Out Loud)

Heh I met you at the contest just before you were called up for 'Best in Show' award. Well deserved indeed!

Here are some of my photographs of your Yamato:

Looking forward to more of your excellent work, hopefully see you there next year.

Jason

 

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/razordws/GB%20Badges/WMIIIGBsmall.jpg

 

 

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Posted by TD4438 on Tuesday, May 31, 2011 5:17 AM

Any praise of mine will only be an understatement.

I just don't have the words.

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  • From: italy
Posted by bsyamato on Tuesday, May 31, 2011 4:40 AM

abosutely great finish! Bow Down and inspirating work

i agree on the nagato! waiting for her

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Posted by potchip on Tuesday, May 31, 2011 4:32 AM

Well done. Not a bad result after 40 years hey?

 

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Posted by Firedeck on Tuesday, May 31, 2011 2:29 AM

 

no... got silver for my entry; it was @CAMS show this past weekend, which is the big one for eastern canada, and there were some terrific entries i must say

but it won Best of Show -People's Choice, which I felt great about!

 my cheapo camera is one of those common digital automatic ones, but its new and has some manual settings i can eff with, so i'll give it a go and experiment. i'll post the pics tomorrow then, hows that ;)

and next up for me is Nagato... which is a beautiful ship too i think. thank-you for your nice comments pavlvs!  

   

  • Member since
    January 2007
  • From: Richmond, Va.
Posted by Pavlvs on Tuesday, May 31, 2011 12:06 AM

Absolutely inspiring.  These pics make me unable to wait to get started on my 1/200 Arizona.  I will try to do as well as this but I don't think I am up to your standard.  Please don't wait another 40 years before the next one.  I don't even think the guys at Tamiya envisioned such a beautiful result from their kit. 

One suggestion: when you photograph your model, use a slower focal ratio such as f/22 and either a flash or a longer exposure and a tripod.  This will get the whole picture in focus and with workmanship as amazing as yours, you will not want to miss any of it.

What do you intend to build next?

p.s., what award did you win?  I could not make out the medal in the picture.  If it was not Best In Show, then you associate with amazing fellow modelers or there is no justice!

Thank you!Bow DownBow DownBow Down

Deus in minutiae est. Fr. Pavlvs

On the Bench: 1:200 Titanic; 1:16 CSA Parrott rifle and Limber

On Deck: 1/200 Arizona.

Recently Completed: 1/72 Gato (as USS Silversides)

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Posted by Firedeck on Monday, May 30, 2011 11:22 PM

 










As always...comments and suggestions most welcome! Thank-you for viewing my post.[/quote

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  • From: italy
Posted by bsyamato on Thursday, May 26, 2011 12:07 PM

absolutely Yamato!

Want to see main turrets Stick out tongue

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  • From: Western North Carolina
Posted by Tojo72 on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 5:58 PM

continueing to be amazed Bow Down

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Posted by TD4438 on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 4:41 PM

This is just unbelievable workmanship.

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  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 12:36 PM

Allow me to restate my last post . . . You will not need luck; the other contestants will!

Bill

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Posted by Firedeck on Wednesday, May 25, 2011 10:14 AM

Hi guys! Some update pics...sub-assemblies painted, wood deck added:







As always...comments and suggestions welcome. Cheers!

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  • From: italy
Posted by bsyamato on Saturday, May 14, 2011 5:18 AM

can't wait to see finished! Crying

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  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Friday, May 13, 2011 10:57 PM

From what we have all seen of your Yamato, you will not need luck; the other contestants will!  Toast

Bill

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    November 2010
Posted by Firedeck on Thursday, May 12, 2011 11:31 PM

Hi Bill...I am finishing the Yamato over the next two weeks. Despite this being my first model, I want to enter it in the local show on the 28th, so there's lots to be done (paint, deck railings, final assembly and rigging). Will post some pics this week...wish me luck! 

  • Member since
    September 2005
  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Saturday, May 7, 2011 2:36 AM

Firedeck,

Thanks!  These are very interesting diagrams indeed!  I will put them to good use; unfortunately, they don't show the location and positions of the depth charge racks added to Musashi.  But, I won't need them in my conversion; I will need to find them when I build Musashi post-1943.

Have you made any progress on Yamato? I would love to see more pics of your fantastic build!

Bill

  • Member since
    November 2010
Posted by Firedeck on Thursday, May 5, 2011 3:12 PM

warshipguy

P.S.  I just ordered one more of each, the Yamato and Musashi.  I am considering using them to convert one to the original configuration, with the 6.1 inch beam turrets.

 

Hey Bill...found a link comparing Musashi and Yamato at various stages. It seems this guy concentrated on the differences in superstructure, AA, etc...:

 

http://www.buildingtheship.com/2011/02/24/yamato-and-musashi-armament-arrangements-1941-1945/

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    March 2011
  • From: Ohio
Posted by Taps88 on Sunday, April 17, 2011 1:39 PM

I really like checking up on this build and seeing the updates.

Your PE work is simply amazing...   I love those main guns Yes

Eric / Formally known as Erock68

On the Bench:

Academy: 1/72 B17 Memphis Bell

Tamiya: 1/35 Panther G

Dragon: 1/35 Platformwagen SSy

 

  • Member since
    January 2007
  • From: Chester Basin Nova Scotia
Posted by John Lyle on Tuesday, April 12, 2011 10:00 AM

It almost seems a shame to paint all that beautiful brass work. I said ALMOST.

Winters may be cold in Canada but at least there are no mosquitoes or blackflies

  • Member since
    September 2005
  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Sunday, April 10, 2011 10:44 AM

Gentlemen,

Thanks! I will give it a try.

Bill

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    March 2007
  • From: NJ
Posted by JMart on Saturday, April 9, 2011 4:17 PM

Gator's Glue is made by Kenny Loup, here is his main web page (he also sells ship camo masks):

http://www.gatorsmask.com/index.html

http://www.gatorsmask.com/gatorglueorder.html

 

 

 

 

  • Member since
    March 2011
  • From: Ohio
Posted by Taps88 on Saturday, April 9, 2011 1:46 PM

I bought 4 bottles when it first came out. Here is the new packaging:

 

http://store.thewarshop.com/Gator-Glue/M/B003COIPRQ.htm

Eric / Formally known as Erock68

On the Bench:

Academy: 1/72 B17 Memphis Bell

Tamiya: 1/35 Panther G

Dragon: 1/35 Platformwagen SSy

 

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