British Cruisers...

Spotting Report:

the exchange of fire between ten, 12 inch guns and Manny's Atlantic Wall batteries appears to have been inconclusive.

Air support may be required in the form of Vance's Hs 129 with a crew of three.

Ordinance carried on the Hs 129 will include  ground hog cluster bombs .....

Dreadnought52

I'm not going to look for ships for you but I will give you the links to see for yourself:

www.pacificfront.com

www.whiteensignmodels.com

www.nntmodell.com

 

Sprue-ce Goose

Spotting Report:

the exchange of fire between ten, 12 inch guns and Manny's Atlantic Wall batteries appears to have been inconclusive.

Air support may be required in the form of Vance's Hs 129 with a crew of three.

Ordinance carried on the Hs 129 will include  ground hog cluster bombs .....

Not to worry.  Fire Support Officer advises that the U.S.S. Texas is on the way.  No shortage of 15" AP is noted.

MAJ Mike

 

Sprue-ce Goose:

 

Spotting Report:

the exchange of fire between ten, 12 inch guns and Manny's Atlantic Wall batteries appears to have been inconclusive.

Air support may be required in the form of Vance's Hs 129 with a crew of three.

Ordinance carried on the Hs 129 will include  ground hog cluster bombs .....

 

 

Not to worry.  Fire Support Officer advises that the U.S.S. Texas is on the way.  No shortage of 15" AP is noted.

.......to take on Manny?

P mitch

Closest I can find is below but its a bit on the high side for the price. Looks like a gap in the market for one of the bigger manufacturers

http://www.freetimehobbies.com/cms4230.aspx

 

P mitch

That's close enough to $229 for an honorable mention.

                                                                                                     Pat.

shoot&scoot

P mitch:

Closest I can find is below but its a bit on the high side for the price. Looks like a gap in the market for one of the bigger manufacturers

http://www.freetimehobbies.com/cms4230.aspx

 

P mitch

 

That's close enough to $229 for an honorable mention.

                                                                                                     Pat.

Dreadnought52

Great Models, Squadron and Sprue Brothers aren't exactly the place to go for ship models.  It's like looking for a Mercedes at a Ford Dealer. They each have a limited number of common items.  They carry few resin choices and AFAIK no metal kits.  Sprue Brothers is good for plastic.  If you want to buy ship models go to the people who sell them.

Your wild claim is that the ships I noted earlier were not available from main stream or Non mainstream suppliers (whatever that means).  I note that you did not bother to check out the huge selection of kits available at the vendors in my response.

It is OK to have a preference for the material you want to work in but it is entirely another to claim that the subjects are unavailable.

But if that car dealer can have access to both Mercedes and Ford, it would be in their best interest to stock both - if the dealer wants more customers. I suppose it depends on how large they want the customer base.

VanceCrozier

Dreadnought52:

Great Models, Squadron and Sprue Brothers aren't exactly the place to go for ship models.  It's like looking for a Mercedes at a Ford Dealer.

MAJ Mike, USS Texas carried 14" guns not 15" guns so can't use those AP rounds.

Manstein's revenge

 

VanceCrozier:

 

 

Dreadnought52:

Great Models, Squadron and Sprue Brothers aren't exactly the place to go for ship models.  It's like looking for a Mercedes at a Ford Dealer.

 

 

 

Nah, its more like looking for the Zuiho at a Saturn Dealer... 

 

Saturn Dealers re extinct................

Sprue-ce Goose

 

Manstein's revenge:

 

 

VanceCrozier:

 

 

Dreadnought52:

Great Models, Squadron and Sprue Brothers aren't exactly the place to go for ship models.  It's like looking for a Mercedes at a Ford Dealer.

 

 

 

Nah, its more like looking for the Zuiho at a Saturn Dealer... 

 

 

 

Saturn Dealers re extinct................

....so are Zuihos...

ddp59

MAJ Mike, USS Texas carried 14" guns not 15" guns so can't use those AP rounds.

I had 14" down and then changed it.  Should never post anything herein without checking a reference.  Thanks for the gentle correction, I'll slink away to the brig now.

Oh well, I'm often wrong, but never in doubt!

Everyone always over-estimates the size of their guns...

Manstein's revenge

Everyone always over-estimates the size of their guns...

What we think is an L-70 is actually and L-43?

*** McC2

I too would like someone to bring out a 1/350th scale, injection molded British WW II cruiser. I've had this need ever since I read Alistair MacLean's "HMS Ulysses" many years ago. It was the first book he wrote (1955) and is the story of British light cruiser similar to the Dido class pulling escort duty on the Murmansk run. Since MacLean served on a light cruiser during WW II he had first hand knowledge of what he was writing about. I consider it the best book he wrote. I've always said if I was ever stranded in a tropical area without air conditioning I would want "HMS Ulysses" to read. MacLean's writing of the extreme cold the crew of the Ulysses endured drops the temp a good 25-30 degrees and makes you shiver. If you've never read "HMS Ulysses" and are into WW II naval novels, I would recommend it highly.

I read that book as a kid, opened up an interest in history that got me into building models. He really descried the conditions, stress, boredom and action in a way I havent seen anywhere else.

I'd love to see more 1/350 RN destroyers and Cruisers. Just think HMS Ajax and Exeter you could have them with Japanese ships and Have a Battle of the Java Sea, or conversely with the Graf Spee

I think these would sell like hot cakes world wide and in Japan especially. (They have probably the biggest modeling population)

Say, I believe that the HMS Hood and the HMS Repulse we British Cruisers. At least they we called that the last time I checked.

Battlecruisers---more like old battleships than anything else...

Manstein's revenge

Battlecruisers---more like old battleships than anything else...

Fast under armored BB's.

Give me a plastic British Cruiser model or give me death...

Manstein's revenge

Give me a plastic British Cruiser model or give me death...

Battlecruisers were one of Jackie Fishers' ideas.  They were to be cruiser killers.  They were armed like battleships, but armored only slightly better than cruisers.  Unfortunately, admirials used them like fast battleships.  The Battle of Jutland exposed many of the weaknesses of the battlecruiser concept (although most of the British losses were due in part to improper ammunition storage).

The sinking of the HMS Hood clearly demonstrated the flaws of the battlecruiser concept.  Sunk by plunging fire from the Bismark, the Hood was a victim of inadequate armor and improper deployment.

Lecture over.  Expect a quiz on Friday.

agreed battlecruisers work very well if used properly. they were never intented to go toe to toe with full on battleships that was 1 of the main reasons they were so fast

hoods belt armour was fine it was the deck armour that was weak (only an inch i think) she had started the turn that wouldve vastly reduced the danger from plunging fire litterally a matter of seconds away :(

the whole reason they were maligned as a class was because they looked so powerfull they were used as battleships hence their flaws were exposed

also battleships themselves were used poorly in ww2 they were intended to be used in fleets not 1s and 2s this left them very vulnerable ie pow and repulse etc etc

eatthis

agreed battlecruisers work very well if used properly. they were never intented to go toe to toe with full on battleships that was 1 of the main reasons they were so fast

hoods belt armour was fine it was the deck armour that was weak (only an inch i think) she had started the turn that wouldve vastly reduced the danger from plunging fire litterally a matter of seconds away :(

the whole reason they were maligned as a class was because they looked so powerfull they were used as battleships hence their flaws were exposed

 

also battleships themselves were used poorly in ww2 they were intended to be used in fleets not 1s and 2s this left them very vulnerable ie pow and repulse etc etc

Agreed, mostly.  Nothing would've saved the Prince of Wales except a carrier battle group.  Any surface  force without air support was little more than a target.  That said, battleships were no longer the insturment of decision, carriers were.  The Japanese and U.S. fleets detailing battleships to fire support missions was a rational use of resources.  Even the Yamato's last mission was to have been as a gun platform against ground targets.

Manstein's revenge

Give me a plastic British Cruiser model or give me death...

Uhhh Manny, haven't found a plastic British Cruiser model yet... Manny?? MANNY!?!?! Hellllooooo....

VanceCrozier

Manstein's revenge:

Give me a plastic British Cruiser model or give me death...

 

Uhhh Manny, haven't found a plastic British Cruiser model yet... Manny?? MANNY!?!?! Hellllooooo....

He's looking for the scissors.

RN cruisers in 1/350 plastic? Patience, Grasshopper. I can say no more at this time....  ;^)

Cheers,

John Snyder, White Ensign Models

again agreed i think the carrier that was supposed to go with them ran aground before hand.

as a side note repulse a ww1 battlecruiser nearly survived the attack and even though she was sunk took more punishment than a brand new battleship

John @ WEM

RN cruisers in 1/350 plastic? Patience, Grasshopper. I can say no more at this time....  ;^)

Cheers,

John Snyder, White Ensign Models

There seems to be much debate over the Hoods sinking. I've read that a fire caused by some shells from the Prinz Eugen may have set off some torpedos or AA ammunition. 

I'm a bit surprised that none of the big boys have come out with a HMS Lion or Tiger. I think WW I ships get little love from the manufacturers, but those were some famous ships.

John @ WEM

RN cruisers in 1/350 plastic? Patience, Grasshopper. I can say no more at this time....  ;^)

Cheers,

John Snyder, White Ensign Models