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  • Member since
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  • From: Salem, Oregon
progress on my 1/96 Connie
Posted by 1943Mike on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 4:52 PM

I'm now at a stage where each line is such a PITA to rig that I can't work on her more than an hour or two or I feel I'll explode! I've rigged every line in the instructions (I thought I might leave some out but I changed my mind) except the braces on the mizzen mast. After I've done those (probably in the next couple of weeks) I'll work on the remaining jolly boats and think about painting some of the figures. I'm not so sure I'll include the figures though. Then there's some touch-up painting, etc. and I'll call it finished.  

Any close inspection of this build will reveal many glaring errors, sloppy tie-offs to the pins and cleats, a knot or two where I broke a line and simply added more line by tying more line to it, lines straining against others where I should have been more thoughtful while threading rigging through and around others lines, bunches of BIG knots where I've CA'd lines together where they've broken, etc., etc.  Nonetheless, it's been an interesting and fun journey so far. My main - and uncorrectable - error is that I never seated the mizzen mast properly so it is about 5/8" too high. That presented me with a problem when attaching the trysail mast which was too short. I added a couple parts to make it work (a studding sail yard I hadn't used and a bit of a sprue) by lashing them on to the mast - never would have worked in reality but, for my model, it was all I could do.

I wish I'd used a darker background for my stacked exposure photograph. It's too difficult to see all the work I've done on the running rigging in this image but I KNOW what went into it.

I'll post a shot in a month or so when she's finished.

Here she is as of today:

Mike S.

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Tuesday, September 13, 2011 6:26 PM

However you feel about the job you've done on the ship, I can see the amount of work you put into the kit and you should not be shy about placing it on display at your home after completion.

The only real problem will be protecting the model from dust.

Nice job on persevering with a difficult build !

Please keep us posted on your work.

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Posted by bondoman on Wednesday, September 14, 2011 1:07 AM

Mike, that is a fabulous build. I have already given up on ever taking my Heller 1/100 Victory beyond lower masts in a kind of dockyard scene. And that will be a year behind schedule.

Really a marvelous model. The natural top masts look superb.

The Revell figures are a highlight of the kit. I have tried to find out their genesis, but they, along with the figures on the other big ships and the Morgan, were created by a real sculptor who made little works of art.

The kneeling figure with the hat and lanyard....

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Posted by TD4438 on Wednesday, September 14, 2011 3:42 AM

JCTIFA!

That's about all I can post of my initial comment.Bow Down

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Posted by MSgtMJ62 on Saturday, September 17, 2011 12:47 PM

Looks great to me!  I have barely started on mine, hope it turns out as good.

 

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Posted by 1943Mike on Saturday, September 17, 2011 1:55 PM

Bondoman, Sprue-ce Goose, TD4438, and MSqtMJ62:

Thanks for the kind words. I AM proud of the fact that I've stuck to it all these 10 months and am determined to finish her even with her flaws. My main problem in a month +/- (when I'm finished with her) will be where to display her in my condo. I am single now and don't know many people in Oregon yet. (I moved here last September from 38 years in southern California).

I'll figure it out - maybe a wall mounted display? I can't afford the enormous prices charged for ready-made display cases and only have one or two possible spots for it.

I strung the braces to the mizzen royal yard this morning. It's CROWDED in there!! Just three more yards to go Big Smile  (mizzen top gallant, topsail, and crossjack). Then the last three boats and the figures.

Mike S.

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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Posted by 1943Mike on Saturday, September 17, 2011 2:11 PM

I was going to post different views of my build showing both the errors and the work on the rigging to better effect but my pictures didn't show up. I double checked the URL's and re-pasted them but to no avail. I'll try again when I've done a bit more work on her.

Mike S.

 OK, here's one more try:

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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Posted by Rich on Saturday, September 17, 2011 2:32 PM

1943Mike

for the kind words. I AM proud of the fact that I've stuck to it all these 10 months and am determined to finish her even with her flaws. My main problem in a month +/- (when I'm finished with her) will be where to display her in my condo. I am single now and don't know many people in Oregon yet. (I moved here last September from 38 years in southern California).

Mike, If you're anywhere around the Portland metro area, here's a good club for you:

NSO (Nautical Society of Oregon Model Shipwrights

Eric Adams is the president  ericadams@comcast.net  503-280-0982

They're mostly older guys, real artists in ship modeling in wood, but they will enthusiastically welcome all ship modelers. Their knowledge of the craft is encyclopedic. If you contact Eric he can email you a copy of their latest newsletter, and you can see what they're about.

 

Rich

Nautical Society of Oregon Model Shipwrights

Portland Model Power Boat Association

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Posted by 1943Mike on Saturday, September 17, 2011 2:46 PM

Rich,

Thanks for the link.

Mike S.

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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Posted by mfsob on Saturday, September 17, 2011 3:24 PM

For the amount of time you've put into that magnificent piece of work, it'd be a shame to turn it into a dust magnet. Custom cabinets aren't really that hideously expensive when you consider what you're protecting. Give this guy a shout - http://www.grandpascabinets.com/ - he did one for me that was top notch, including the shipping.

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Posted by 1943Mike on Saturday, September 17, 2011 5:36 PM

mfsob,

Thanks for the link. I've emailed them and will await their quote.

Mike S.

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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Posted by GreySnake on Saturday, September 17, 2011 5:54 PM

That's a very fine build of the Constitution. I have one waiting to get built this winter, and hope I can at least make it half as good as your's. 

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Posted by shoot&scoot on Sunday, September 18, 2011 12:29 AM

When I first saw your pics all I could say was DUH!  That build is beautiful!  As for protecting it, It's really not that hard to make a display case for it and there are several places on the web to get plans and instructions.  

                                                                             Pat.

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Posted by mfsob on Sunday, September 18, 2011 7:03 AM

I agree, for something like a large ship model like this you can make your own case, but ... by the time you're done with the construction, "builder's fatigue" has probably set in and the case may never get made, or will get made so long after the fact that the Dust Monsters have firmly taken root and you'll never be rid of all of them.

Ron at Grandpa's Cabinets is a great guy to work with. All I can say is, I got exactly what I wanted, for what I considered a very fair price, and it was shipped right to me. And it looks just as good today as when I bought it from him, jeez, 5 years ago?

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Posted by 1943Mike on Sunday, September 18, 2011 9:40 AM

mfsob,

I appreciate the link you gave me to Grandpa's Cabinets. I got the quote this morning. He said it would be too big to ship except as a kit (which is OK by me) but the dealbreaker is that, including shipping, it would be over $800.00!! That's way over my budget. I was hoping to find something under $300.00 but I now know that's a pipe dream.

Again, thanks for the thought.

Mike S.

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Sunday, September 18, 2011 10:22 AM

1943mike:

Out of curiosity, if a pre-built case is too much, do you have access to basic hand tools?

Also, do you mind if the "case" just protects the model from dust but is just basic protection?

Hardware stores sell screen door repair components that can be used to construct a temporary enclosure by substituting clear shrink fit plastic sheeting of this kind

http://tami-port.suite101.com/plastic-window-insulation-a35412

 

for the normal insect screen.

You would need to have a sturdy base that can hold stiff , vertical columns that the aluminum panels can be attached to.

For instance - 4 pine 2x2 vertical poles would suffice as supports that the screen hardware can be attached to. The 2x2 lumber would need to be attached to a strong base to hold the panels securely and prevent damaging the model.

If you know someone with a router or table saw, cutting slots deep enough to slide the panels into the 2x2 is possible-  or just attach the panels to the exterior of the 2x2 pine vertical supports.

The top panel can be made the same way as the side panels.

Not as nice as a professional case, but it will keep dust off and the window film is very clear, allowing a view of the build.

Let me know if my suggestion needs further clarification.

 

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Posted by Jester75 on Sunday, September 18, 2011 10:32 AM

Holy crap, that ship is beautiful. The rigging is amazing!!!!

What would the dimension of the case have to be in order to hold the ship???

Eric

 

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Posted by 1943Mike on Sunday, September 18, 2011 10:34 AM

Sprue-ce Goose,

Thanks for the suggestion. To be frank, no, I haven't any woodworking tools nor do I know anyone  who has them.

I guess it will be a race to see which comes first: My Connie buried in dust or me just buried Big Smile

Mike S.

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Sunday, September 18, 2011 10:39 AM

1943Mike

Sprue-ce Goose,

Thanks for the suggestion. To be frank, no, I haven't any woodworking tools nor do I know anyone  who has them.

I guess it will be a race to see which comes first: My Connie buried in dust or me just buried Big Smile

Mike S.

The most basic tools needed would be a hacksaw with fine tooth blades, a wood cutting hand saw if the local store won't cut the lumber for you and a hand drill ( not even an electricly powered drill ) and bits.

If not available, then you may need to improvise with whatever is large enough to cover but not damage the model.

Best of luck with that project !

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Posted by 1943Mike on Sunday, September 18, 2011 10:39 AM

Eric,

I believe I gave Grandpa's Cabinets the inside dimensions of 40" (L) x 17" (W) x 29" (H). That would include only about 1 1/2" in those three dimensions as extra space.

Mike S.

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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  • From: N. Georgia
Posted by Jester75 on Sunday, September 18, 2011 10:42 AM

Having built several aquariums using acrylic, I would probably tackle it myself. Acrylics are actually very similiar to work with to sytrene, even use some of the same chemicals to bond it (MeK). Some glass shops will actually cut those sizes for you. Then it would simply be a matter of glueing the pieces together and sitting it on some sort of  (wooden?) base. It really wouldn't be that hard at all. the only thing you would need would be the MEK, I use the Weld-On brand myself. I believe some modelers here even use it to build with.

Eric

 

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Posted by 1943Mike on Sunday, September 18, 2011 11:11 AM

Eric,

I will mull over the suggestions both you and Sprue-ce Goose have given me. I'll check out some glass shops locally (Salem, OR) as well as going to Home Depot and Lowes for the shrink plastic idea.

I appreciate the concern of you all for my dilemma (dusty Connie vs. expensive enclosure) but I'd best finish her first.

Photography happens to be another of my hobbies (along with hiking, reading, and, if I get around to it again -  painting) for which I am in need of a hacksaw to cut down the length of the center column on one of my tripods that I use for macro work. I also believe in having the right tools for whatever job I'm doing so I don't mind springing for some hand tools that may allow me to build some sort of case (or wooden base for a case).

If in fact I do end up building a case for Connie and it works out well, I would then have some confidence for another case of roughly the same dimensions for my build of the Revell 1/96 Cutty Sark which I bought on eBay in the spring. It'll be my next Oregon winter project.

Mike S.

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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Posted by warshipguy on Sunday, September 18, 2011 12:52 PM

VERY NICE build! 

Bill

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Posted by mfsob on Sunday, September 18, 2011 1:16 PM

Ouch. Yeah, that would be out of my price range as well, masterpiece or no masterpiece. Time for plan B. I rather hope you don't have cats!

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Posted by shoot&scoot on Sunday, September 18, 2011 10:33 PM

If you build your own case using acrylic or Lexan, MEK works great as a bonder but under NO circumstances use alcohol to clean the joints.  As the alcohol evaporates it supercools the surface of the acrylic and causes micro-cracking (ask me how I know).

                                                                                           Pat.                                                                          

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Posted by nfafan on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 11:29 AM

Great job on the Connie!!   I agree with your concern over the $800.00 for the custom display case!

Yikes! I paid $20.00 for my 1st 1/96th Connie - $800.00 to protect a $20.00 kit...

That and I have a 2nd 1/9th Connie, plus other Connies in 1/196th,  1/100, and 1/200th.

Went a tad nuts...

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Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 11:41 AM

nfafan

That and I have a 2nd 1/9th Connie, plus other Connies in 1/196th,  1/100, and 1/200th.

Went a tad nuts...

Not nuts.

The ship is a very seductive and practical design balance between maneuverability and firepower.

I recently purchased the smaller Revell Connie kit as a warm up for a future 1/96th kit purchase and also purchased the Revell re-release of the 1/96 Cutty Sark kit and must eventually make cases for my builds- therefore my earlier post on a possible case design.

I've been scanning the various ship builds for information regarding how members have worked thru the build process.

I would like to express my admiration for all who manage to complete the elaborate assembly for those huge kits ToastBow Down

 

 

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Posted by Wojszwillo on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 11:43 AM

Rigging is not the best part of this build. Ratlines, standing and runing rigging, knots, blocks etc can be made much better in such scale. Sorry for hard words.

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Posted by 1943Mike on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 11:59 AM

Wojszwillo,

I agree (and have listed some of my mistakes) that my effort at rigging this model has many faults. It is, however, as good a job as I am willing and able to do. I do not have the talent that many model builders whose work I've admired on the web have.

 Do not apologize for criticizing my work. That should be part of any forum on model building. It might help me and others however, if you were to give examples as to how you might make some of what you mentioned "better".

 I was not going to build my own ratlines, nor was I going to use many parts that were not OOB. (I did substitute some brass eyebolts for many of the plastic ones but not all of them). So, using what was in the box, with my limited talent for painting, etc. I'm happy enough with what I've done although I would certainly appreciate your thoughts on how to improve the model as built OOB.

Mike S.

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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Posted by nfafan on Tuesday, September 20, 2011 8:51 PM

I figured that on my smaller Connies - 1-pc hull 1/200th? Monogram, 1/196th Revell, 1/110? Imai/Aoshima in Monogram box, 1/100th Revell -  I'll cheat - where feasible - and use the molded ratlines. And do enough rigging to learn how to use my 55yr old fingertips and eyes.

If I can get these built with varying degrees of rigging without jumping out of a window, I'll be fully warmed up for the amount of rigging to do on the 1/96th Connies.

The important part is to enjoy the time spent and the results. I could tell the family I was building the frigate Essex and they'd never know anyway... 

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