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Swap Meet Score!...and a concern.
Posted by David_K on Sunday, June 2, 2013 5:54 PM

Just got back from a local Swap Meet, and found a vintage Revell Thermopylae kit...4 bucks!  (as an aside, I also found a tiny kit of a Pinta...the hull is about 3 inches long!  That'll be a fun one! 50 cents!)

But back to the Thermopylae....

I was a little concerned since the box was really rough, but after getting it home, all appears complete!  There are two big, unopened bags of parts (one all white, one Black and Tan)....even found the decals in the instruction sheet pages...though they look old and will probably not work (?)...

Anyway, my concern is that someone had apparently masked over the upper wales along each hull half, and probably left it on there for 20 years!  Then, I further speculate that someone later tried to remove the tape, but failed...there is now a stripe of old dried up tape residue along both sides of the outer/upper hull.

Question:  What is a safe chemical to use on the styrene of the hull that will get the residue off, but not damage the plastic?  I first thought of Rubbing alcohol, but then I figured I should ask the experts!

Any advice?

 

Thanks!

BTW, this kit looks super fun!  Tons of parts, and she's huge!   haha

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Posted by padakr on Sunday, June 2, 2013 5:58 PM

I think isopropyl alcohol would be fine, I've never had a problem with it on plastic.  One of the orange cleaners (e.g. Goo Gone) might be okay as well, just not sure about residue.  Simple Green might get the glue residue off and won't harm the plastic.

Paul

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Posted by rwiederrich on Sunday, June 2, 2013 8:46 PM

Good score...are you planning on correcting the serious Revell errors? Or build as is?

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Posted by ddp59 on Sunday, June 2, 2013 8:50 PM

i've used wd-40 to remove old tape.

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Posted by David_K on Sunday, June 2, 2013 9:43 PM

Ha!  Errors, Shmerrors!

Cool

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Posted by littletimmy on Sunday, June 2, 2013 11:27 PM

I'v said it before and I'll say it again..... TESTORS     Easy  Lift  Off !!

Takes off evrything       wont hurt the plastic.

 Dont worry about the thumbprint, paint it Rust , and call it "Battle Damage"

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Monday, June 3, 2013 8:39 AM

I'll second the Isopropyl.  It is fine on plastic but it does a fair job of removing masking tape adhesive.  There is also something made specifically for removing that sort of stuff- I think it is called goo gone or something similar, that I have used a couple of times, but not that often. I would try a test on that stuff one a piece of sprue.  But I know Iso is fine.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by jtilley on Monday, June 3, 2013 10:40 AM

Like many other modelers, I've found that automotive brake fluid is an excellent paint remover for styrene plastic.  Get a can of the stuff and pour it into some sort of disposable container (which, if this is the 1/96 kit, will have to be pretty big).  Soak the part for an hour or so and hold it under a faucet in the sink (or, in this case, bathtub).  Almost all the paint will come off immediately.  If any of it is stubborn, go after it with an old toothbrush.  I've never run into the masking tape problem, but I suspect denatured alcohol would take off the residue.  (I've heard it said that ammonia will do it, but that strikes me as a little risky.  Ammonia is a mild solvent for some forms of plastic.)

It needs to be said, I think, that the Revell Thermopylae (or Thermopylaes; Revell issued versions in two scales) are, in terms of scale modeling, marketing scams.  The original, 1/96-scale one is nothing more or less than a reissue of the company's Cutty Sark, with some detail changes (some of which make reasonable sense, while others apparently were just made to make the kits look different).  In reality the two ships looked like each other from a distance of a mile or so, but that's about all.  How important the discrepancies are depends, of course, on the individual modeler, but making a scale model of the Thermopylae out of that kit would be almost as challenging as scratchbuilding - maybe more so.

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Posted by rwiederrich on Monday, June 3, 2013 12:47 PM

Then you plan on building the Thermopysark..then? :(

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Posted by rwiederrich on Monday, June 3, 2013 12:51 PM

Almost as much as my Cutty conversion to the Glory of the Seas......Now that was a near total scratch build.

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Posted by David_K on Monday, June 3, 2013 2:28 PM

Thanks for the suggestions about the tape residue!

Now it might be time for me to go on a slight rant.

Look, you guys....it's obvious why so many people on this forum choose to exchange email addresses and correspond *offline*....

First let me say that I appreciate the attention to detail that so many people show in their hobbying...I totally admire the skill and tenacity!  Rob, you are an amazing model-builder...I don't know how you find the time or the inclination to produce so many kits on such a great level of beauty!

But it really is kind of a drag when, as a *casual* modeler, I create a post to ask for some ideas, and in many cases the "Sharks" come out, and make comments about whether or not the kit in question is accurate enough, or whether it's an actual representation of a specific era....come on.  I'm not a historian, or sailing enthusiast....or a perfectionist.

I'm just a guy who likes to put together kits of stuff...sometimes it's a ship, sometimes it's a car.  

I don't care if a ship kit is authentic, and though I realize it's unintentional, such remarks do more than demonstrate one's vast knowledge about ships...it also can make another person feel like they are doing a half-ass job if they don't *correct* the kit's flaws.  And it's okay for anyone to think that way, but it's slightly impolite to express it publicly.  I don't claim to be a master, but I do have some skill, and I'm learning more all the time, hopefully with the help of you all.

If this post had been created so that I could ask for input on whether the kit is accurate enough to be called the Thermopylae, or if I wanted some suggestions on how to make it more authentic, then of course all related insights would be welcome....

I'm just trying to get some tape residue off, not get brow-beaten for enjoying my hobby.

Please know that I write this with respect.

I hope I don't get myself in trouble with the admins...I should probably just keep my mouth shut  lol

Also, please don't feel singled out if you have responded to this thread....I'm not trying to vilify anyone specifically, this is just a trend I've noticed generally across the forum.

Dave

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, June 3, 2013 2:46 PM

Hmmm, well I would defend Tilley on this except for not wanting to start a flame war, and also I find the use of brake fluid only acceptable if the modeler then takes it to a disposal facility, like a brake shop. But that can be done, and no doubt he just forgot to mention it.

No, the reason you might consider advice on this, even if not requested, is that you must know by now that a ship model, esp. a really big one, takes many hundreds if not thousands of hours of time. And a very curious thing happens during that time. You get older, no mystery there. But you also spend a lot of time looking at information about the subject, and either fall in love with the thing or rue the day you met.

My own personal opinion is that it's a fine model, and I would certainly build it, (well, after I finish that 1/100 Victory taking up so much room in the shop). But I would probably pick a fantasy subject. I had a lot of fun doing that with the little Revell Constitution back in my youth. It goes together rather quickly, so versions of it became Atropos or Caligula, or whatever wholly fictitious (as a 44) instrument of the Empire I needed on my shelf at the time. Just an excuse to paint Nelson Checker.

Likewise Stag Hound became Mustang (don't ask).

Just my two bits,

GM

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Posted by rwiederrich on Monday, June 3, 2013 2:57 PM

Dave..I am truly sorry for any discomfort and offence I may have implies and am extremely sorry for the trouble I have caused.   I honestly did not intend to brow beat you concerning your wonderful purchase.

I am like you in many regards.......it is a goodly detailed kit and getting it at such an incredible price was amazing....not to mention the simple question you asked about old tape residue.

Please allow me to retract any offensive remarks I made.  Further..allow me to extend the hand of reconciliation and respect as a fellow modeler.

At times my own furvancy for accuracy comes off as something more then it really is.

Please accept my humble apology.

Rob

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Posted by Pawel on Monday, June 3, 2013 3:26 PM

Dear Rob!

You are such a naughty boy! Good thing you corrected yourself! But I smell trouble, anyhow!

David - I sure hope you don't get offended over this one! If the old salts here say this kit has its problems, it would be unwise just to ignore it. You have to make a decision and its 100% up to you! You're investing your time and nobody is going to give it back to you when it's already gone. By the way - for old tape glue, you might want to try lighter fluid (gasoline) to remove the stuff - works for me, and isn't as toxic as brake fluid (I use this one for removing paint, though).

Good luck with your project and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

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Posted by David_K on Monday, June 3, 2013 6:26 PM

Rob-

I appreciate your sincerity.

It's not a huge deal, and I wasn't trying to make anyone feel guilty...but I do hope my remarks help to clarify the mindset of a semi-casual modeler...I've only been working on ships for 16 months or so....perhaps as I get more seasoned, the importance of certain aspects of authenticity will become more important to me.

There are members here who feel that, very often, threads degenerate into off-topic complaints about various particulars.  Some have even given up posting to avoid the nit-pickery....which is a shame, because there is so much to be learned from the experiences of other members here.

I have learned that model manufacturers will sometimes take shortcuts, even making superficial changes to an existing kit, re-boxing it, and slapping a new name on it to make a few bucks....it's not good business.  But in the end, I don't mind so much, and I still enjoy building some of them....especially when I got it for 4 bucks!

And I absolutely enjoy seeing WIPs of those who take the time to make corrections and modifications as they see fit...Glory of the Seas is a great example.

Anyway, I'm not trying to get a reputation as a whiner, but I do like to speak my mind.  :)

Maybe down the road, when I'm ready to start in on the Thermopylae, I'll start a post that asks,

"Hey, does anybody have some advice for making this kit into something better?"

:)

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Posted by rwiederrich on Monday, June 3, 2013 7:10 PM

Your position is well respected.  Just a side note;

I scroll through many modeling forums and some are so extreme to detail and accuracy that even I am considered inept and a novice.  Forgetting sometimes that everyone has a beginning and those beginnings can be encased in the simple joy of purchase and building of the model......NOT in any inaccuracies in the model itself.

Lets let the *Purist* subject rest for another thread.

Thanks for accepting my sincerest  apology

Rob

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Posted by David_K on Monday, June 3, 2013 8:47 PM

Thanks again, Rob.  You're a class act.

I know about the *other* forums, which shall remain nameless!  All friendly fellows, but I have seen the rivet-counters in their full glory over yonder!  haha

And thanks to GMorrison....you make a good point....there are many hours spent in the building of a big ol' model ship (except for Rob, he seems to kick out a sweet model each month! lol)...and I could definitely see how one would appreciate a heads-up before painting oneself into a corner, so to speak.

BTW, I got the old tape residue off with some rubbing alcohol and a generous dollop of elbow grease.  Now I can lay the kit to rest in the closet until I decide to start building her, and I won't have to deal with that pesky residue!

Dave

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, June 3, 2013 10:49 PM

Not so fast young Jedi- we all got together and played a trick on you. The alcohol will warp your hull into a twisted mess unless you either start her immediately,

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Posted by rwiederrich on Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:08 AM

*you EITHER*  start or what?  I think you meant unless you start her immediately.

I think the dollop of elbow grease might be Dave's saving grace...NOT our diverse suggestions.

I'm glad he got the antique goo off the hull.

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Posted by jtilley on Tuesday, June 4, 2013 11:15 AM

Well, I seem to have set off something I didn't intend.  And I certainly don't want to start a flame war.  I've tried to clarify my position on such matters a couple of other times here in the Forum; maybe I should do it again.

I have no desire to tell any other modelers how to build models - or what models to build, or how.  As far as I'm concerned ship modeling is a hobby.  (I've never been a professional model builder, and have no desire to be one.  There's nothing wrong in the world with building models for money, but I personally have never been attracted by it.)  The idea of having a hobby is to have fun (and maybe learn something in the process).  If that means doing something other than building a scale replica of something, well, for heaven's sake, that's the individual modeler's business.  Some modelers - especially sailing ship modelers, it seems - get pleasure and satisfaction from building models that generally resemble real objects, but only by a very broad definition are scale models.  Whether people do that is certainly none of my business.  If a modeler wants to change a few parts of his B-17 and call it a B-24, or change a few parts of a Ford and call it a Chevy, I'll defend to the death (well, maybe not quite that far) that modeler's right to do so.

In (I hope) the near future, I'm going to build a model of a generic Gloucester fishing schooner, using the Model Shipways Elsie and the Bluejacket Bluenose as a basis.  The model will be named "G.L. Tilley," after my father.  It won't be a scale model of any actual ship - and I won't tell anybody that it is.  But it should be great fun, and I'm learning a lot about fishing schooners as I get ready to build it.

Please let it be noted that, in the 4,252 posts I've made in this forum since 2004, I've never criticized the work of a modeler.  If I think a model is particularly outstanding, I'll say so.  If not, I'll keep my mouth shut.  I have, I admit, offered occasional suggestions about specific points that I think/hope the modeler will find helpful.  But my position is that if a modeler builds a model the way he/she wants to, that's his/her privilege.

I do think, though, that manufacturers are fair game for criticism.  Revell claims (or certainly implies clearly) that what's in that box is a scale replica of the Thermopylae.  It just plain isn't.  The hull is the wrong shape in several obvious places, the deck furniture is crazy, and there are some big inaccuracies in the sail plan.  (Why Revell decided to leave out the studding sail booms that were in the original Cutty Sark kit is a mystery; the Thermopylae carried studding sails too.)  The kit is a modified reissue of the Cutty Sark - and in my opinion the potential purchaser (to say nothing of the modeler who, not knowing what it is, decides to put scores of hours of time into it) is entitled to know that.  In my opinion a company that markets a Cutty Sark kit as the Thermopylae (or the Bounty as the Beagle, or the Flying Cloud as the Stag Hound, or the Eagle as the Seadler, or any of the numerous other similar stunts Revell - and other companies - have played over the years) is committing consumer fraud.  In just about any other industry, the perpetrators of such scams would get sued out of business.

For some reason or other (as we've also discussed previously in this Forum), the manufacturers of sailing ship kits seem to get held to lower standards than the manufacturers of other subjects.  If a kit manufacturer did market a B-24 as a B-17, or a Ford as a Chevy, or a Panther tank as a Tiger, or, for that matter, a U.S.S. Iowa as the Arizona, my guess is that few, if any, members of this Forum would buy it.  And the model magazines would make sure the company's feet got held to the fire. 

A few years ago the then-new company Trumpeter announced a 1/32 F4F Wildcat.  When the first samples arrived in the U.S., it became clear that the fuselage was misshapen by, as I understand it, about 1/4".  Squadron Mail Order refused to sell the kit, and Trumpeter changed the molds.

And those who've been around for a while may remember when Revell tried to market its old Type VII U-boat as the U-505 (the Type IX that's preserved at the Chicago Museum of Science and Industry).  Most people can't tell the difference between a Type VII and a Type IX.  (I rather suspect most of the people who were running Revell in those rough days honestly didn't know the difference either.)  But one of the modeling magazines (Scale Ship Modeler) blew the whistle - and so did the gift shop at the Museum.  Revell took the kit off the market.  

I personally would be happy if the same thing happened to the so-called Thermopylae kits.  The 1/96  Revell Cutty Sark is a grand old kit - not up to today's standards, but an excellent basis for a fine model.  I wish Revell would put it back on the market ; it's one of those kits that always ought to be available.  (If it was, people wouldn't have to look for it on E-bay - and put up with a modified reissue.)  Deception of the public by manufacturers shouldn't be part of scale modeling.

End of sermon.  To each his/her own - but I don't think manufacturers ought to put the label "scale model" on an object that is no such thing.

P.S.  Gmorrison - I did indeed forget to mention the proper disposal of brake fluid. For heaven's sake don't pour it down the sink.  Sorry about that.

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Posted by rwiederrich on Tuesday, June 4, 2013 11:44 AM

Buyer be ware.......

This is exactly why I chose to use the 1/96 CS hull as the foundation for my large modified kits of the Ferreira and Glory of the Seas.  It was an easily re-engineered design to fit my preferences.  Where else can I get large clipper ship hulls(even if the rake of the bow and stern needs to be heavely modified?

Dave... however, (from what I gather) simply wants to build a large cool looking sailing ship......to work on his skills and techniques.....and if my guess isn't too far off....to revel in the thrill of building such a model and to display it proudly. :)

The rest of us paragraph/sermon writers who enjoy the thrill of pointing out and(If able), creating or recreating the exact scale detail in their projects..can feel free to do so..while not belittling the *Other guy*(If unintentional) who just wants to build the kit he got for a steal...or a song..if you prefer.

Rob

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Posted by tankerbuilder on Tuesday, June 4, 2013 2:55 PM

HELLO !

 By now you probably got that pesky tape residue off . Just a hats off to you .As for the comments ,sorry, but , tis true .If you wanted en accurate scale model of that ship ,you are not going to find it in that box .What you will find though is a venture into sailing ship building that is in my opinion a blast !

As to accuracy REVELL always fell short .Still , when they were one of only two "back in the day " how can anyone complain .The YACHT AMERICA wasn't accurate either , but , I would still like to build one for the heck of it .It plainly has beautiful lines .Big Smile       Tanker-builder

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Posted by David_K on Tuesday, June 4, 2013 6:02 PM

Hey guys,

Thanks for understanding...I was kinda worried I was going to *** some people off....

I totally get the reasons some of you have for being compelled to verbalize the shortcomings of a kit...if I was as concerned about the same things right now, I'm sure I would have some resentment toward certain manufacturers!  I count you among my friends, and it's okay for us to have different viewpoints...

JTilley, I think it would be really cool to see you build a boat variant named after a family member!  Do you build much these days?  And if so, do you like to share progress pics?

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Posted by jtilley on Wednesday, June 5, 2013 10:51 AM

David, I appreciate your encouragement.  I haven't been spending much time at the workbench lately (for a variety of reasons, the biggest of which is summer school), but I have 1 1/700 H.M.S. Warspite in progress. After that I intend to tackle the schooner.  I already have a 1900-vintage tugboat named the A.M. Tilley, after my wife.

I've never learned to post photos in the Forum.  When I get paid for summer school I intend to use a chunk of the money to buy a new computer (a desktop Mac).  When I do that I'll pick up a copy of the latest version of Photoshop Elements.  That will let me set up an online account with Adobe, which should put me on the right track.

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Posted by f8sader on Wednesday, June 5, 2013 11:00 AM

David, let me apologize by saying I haven't read all the posts here (I'll be back!), but, any posting that invokes what I perceive to be the wisdom and historical insight of jtilley is always a bonus for me!  I do appreciate (I've told him so) the background he and many others bring to the forum regardless of the original thread's intent.  Don S., Rob G. and so many-many others offer their life experience and their own flavor that brings me to this forum.  It's kind of like Christmas when I'm surprised by a wonderful gift!

Lon-ski

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Posted by jtilley on Thursday, June 6, 2013 3:05 PM

tankerbuilder

HELLO !

 By now you probably got that pesky tape residue off . Just a hats off to you .As for the comments ,sorry, but , tis true .If you wanted en accurate scale model of that ship ,you are not going to find it in that box .What you will find though is a venture into sailing ship building that is in my opinion a blast !

As to accuracy REVELL always fell short .Still , when they were one of only two "back in the day " how can anyone complain .The YACHT AMERICA wasn't accurate either , but , I would still like to build one for the heck of it .It plainly has beautiful lines .Big Smile       Tanker-builder

I'm not comfortable with the the generalization that  "As to accuracy REVELL always fell short," or with labeling a particular model either "accurate" or "inaccurate."

In the first place, accuracy in scale models is always a matter of degree.  Many models are more accurate than many others, but no model ever built is a hundred percent accurate.  (The wonderful ships of Donald McNarry come about as close as any I've encountered.  But do the sheaves in their rigging blocks work?  Is the plating of the gun tubs actually 1/1200 of the prototypes' thickness?)

In the second place, every manufacturer has its good and bad moments.  (Possible exception:  Wingnut Wings, every one of whose WWI aircraft seems to be a masterpiece.)  Revell has been in business for about 60 years.  During that time, with more than a few notable exceptions, its kits have been getting better.  Nobody would claim that that poor old 1/535 Iowa-class battleship is up to today's standards of accuracy (or anything else - no matter how many times Revell issues it in a new box).  But I'll stick my neck out and say that, in my opinion, the best Revell ship kits are among the best - and most accurate - in the industry.  It seems that Revell's new 1/350 Bismarck is generally regarded as the best of the three in that scale (the others being Tamiya and Trumpeter [Oops!  My bad.  Trumpeter doesn't make a 1/350 Bismarck.]).  It could easily be argued that the Revell 1/96 Constitution, which is almost fifty years old now, is more accurate than the Heller Victory.  (Take a look at the ships' boats.)  The last Revell kit I built was the beautiful little Viking ship, which is an excellent scale reproduction of the Gokstad Ship (with a few pieces omitted for some reason).  Even Revell's first sailing ship, the 1/192 Constitution, is a remarkably accurate model of what it tries to be (the ship as she existed in the early fifties, with the old Andrew Jackson figurehead grafted on).  I've heard that the big old Cutty Sark suffers from some distortion around its stern  (I haven't laid hands on the kit in at least 35 years, and I've never compared it directly with the George Campbell plans), but I still think it's an excellent basis for a scale model.

It's been many years since I've laid eyes on a Revell yacht America, but I don't recall noticing any major inaccuracies.  (They may well be there; I just haven't seen them.)  Maybe Tankerbuilder would like to elaborate.

In my opinion it's healthy for the modeling press, and forums like this one, to make readers - especially newcomers to the hobby - aware of the particular attributes (including inaccuracies) of particular kits, so the individual modeler can make an informed choice.  But I'd never pronounce a particular kit "accurate" or "inaccurate."

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Posted by rwiederrich on Thursday, June 6, 2013 7:02 PM

But you can/will point out kit *inaccuracies* (A healthy thing you claim)..though you won't call the kit *Inaccurate*?

(scratching my head).

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Posted by jtilley on Thursday, June 6, 2013 10:18 PM

No, I won't.  I feel perfectly comfortable asserting that one kit is more accurate than another, but (as I tried to verbalize earlier) I don't think the words "accurate" and "innacurate" should be regarded as absolutes. 

To me it makes more sense to evaluate kits on a scale of, say, 1 to 100.  I'd give the big Revell Constitution an 88 (B+), the Revell Viking ship a 93 (A), the Revell "Thermopylae" a 60 (D-), and the Revell "Beagle" a 50 (F).  Others are perfectly entitled to evaluate them differently.

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Posted by David_K on Thursday, June 6, 2013 10:32 PM

Stated like a true professor!  haha

Well, the one thing I think we can all take home from this is....

Rubbing alcohol works for removing old tape residue!  :)

D

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Posted by rwiederrich on Thursday, June 6, 2013 11:02 PM

I'll accept that.........

Personally..I judge things differently.

Still...I build...cuz I must.   :) And innacuracies  be danged.......

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