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Revell CSS Alabama 1961 kit: worth bidding on?

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  • Member since
    September 2009
  • From: Miami, FL
Posted by Felix C. on Sunday, November 10, 2013 9:47 AM

what was the purpose of raking the masts?

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    June 2012
Posted by arnie60 on Sunday, November 10, 2013 11:30 AM

"Raking the mast moves the center of effort of the sail or center of balance of the boat aft. This tends to push the boat into the wind, like a weathervane. Having a little of this helps pointing, because it tends to make the boat point up more. A little "windward helm", as this is called, is also a safety feature because it turns the boat into the wind (and waves) "automatically" in puffs so the boat is less likely to take on water or capsize. Having too much rake or windward helm makes the boat tend up so much that the helmsman has to have the tiller or rudder ''way off center to keep the boat headed off enough to keep the sails full. This is REALLY SLOW, because the rudder, angled way off the centerline, acts like a big brake. If the mast isn''t raked enough, the sail tends to turn the boat to leeward. This is perhaps faster, but does not help pointng. It is also dangerous, because a puff will make the boat head off, exposing more flattened sail area to the increasing wind, and can lead to capsizing and sinking. Some boats seem to work better with more weather helm than others. Some have almost neutral helms.

Historically, strongly raked masts in the 1800''s, for example, were also connected with improved windward ability. One of the reasons for this was that stongly leaning mast enabled the forestays of the time (100% natural fiber- subject to shrinkage, stretching, and rot) to be kept tighter. The extreme rake of the masts, however, moved the center of effort of the sails so far aft that to balance the vessels, the stern section of the hull was made deeper and longer. This created more wetted surface, which slows boats down. It''s a big balancing act."

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  • From: Spartanburg, SC
Posted by subfixer on Sunday, November 10, 2013 12:16 PM

Very informative lesson, thank you, Arnie.

Lee

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

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    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, November 10, 2013 2:14 PM

The America is a perfect example of all of that.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, November 10, 2013 2:15 PM

Come to think of it they were designed within 10-11 years of each other

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

  • Member since
    November 2013
Posted by cutter69 on Friday, November 22, 2013 5:38 PM
I have both kits of the Alabama and Kearsarge from Revell in1/96 scale when released from Revell Germany.
Are they even worth putting together?
Are there and up dates for these kits such as guns and carriages?
Please let me kno.
sdhunter1769@yahoo.com
  • Member since
    June 2012
Posted by arnie60 on Monday, November 25, 2013 10:03 AM

You can get a really fine set of guns from here

cottageindustrymodels.com

If you have read through this thread you should have noted that both models are contentious in regards to their accuracy, but can be built to a fine looking model regardless.

  • Member since
    July 2010
  • From: Tempe AZ
Posted by docidle on Tuesday, November 26, 2013 10:13 PM

Arnie,

I have the Alabama in my stash while I try and finish all the builds I have going now.  My wife gave me the gun set last Christmas and I agree, they are nice and will go nicely with all the other ideas I have for her.

Steve

       

 

 

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