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1/72 U-505 Painting advice. Help!!!

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, January 10, 2014 1:52 AM

Well look at the Dark Gull Gray on the FMs on the flight deck, It looks pretty dark there as well. Lighting can be tricky. The father away an object is from the camera, even though both may be in the same color, the more distant one may appear lighter. No worries about the conflicting information on the paint colors.

 

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Posted by texchap on Friday, January 10, 2014 12:20 AM
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Posted by texchap on Friday, January 10, 2014 12:18 AM

I know the site.  I tried it and it was lighter than the black and white and color photos show.   I looked and compared it to the haze gray on the side of the ship.   The upper hull was closer to the shading of the darker color in the GUADALCANAL's paint scheme.  In addition, the site you refer to states that in 1943 the Kerigsmarine directed subs be painted either Schlickgrau 58, Blaugrau 58/1 or Blauschwartz 58/2.   The Forum I referred to was not a museum site, you are correct I don't trust them.   It was models.rokket.biz/index.php   The accurate model parts forum.   I also found Blaugrau mentioned in a couple of other spots.   Ultimately  it's best guess.  

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, January 9, 2014 9:24 PM

This site

http://amp.rokket.biz/docs/u-boat_colours_with_photos_5.pdf

lists Dunkelgrau 51 for the hull and Blauschwarz 58/2 for the conning tower. I would not trust musum stuff too much as it has often been repainted again and again. Often with no historical attention to actual colors used.

 

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Posted by texchap on Thursday, January 9, 2014 7:36 PM

Yes I did.  I also read on another forum how a crewman on the U-803 at the end of the war described the color.    He also said the U-505 was painted the same.

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Posted by Leftie on Thursday, January 9, 2014 5:54 PM

  Texchap. I guess you saw my earlier photo of U-803. The only other color photo that might help is this of U-858. And this photo shows what the colors would look in B&W.

i2.photobucket.com/.../U-858_zps4e726575.jpg

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Posted by texchap on Thursday, January 9, 2014 4:42 PM

Ok, after reading and researching other sites I decided that the Blaugrau 58/1 for the upper hull and the Blauschwartz 58/2 for the conning tower.   The Blaugrau 58/1 is available in the Kriegsmarine 2 set from Lifecolor.   Blauschwartz (Blue Black) is not available at all.    There are many opinions on what is closer.   I matched the color chip in the Kriegsmarine U-Boat colors  and markings PDF.   They suggested FS 35044.   I found that FS 35042 (Flat Sea Blue in Model Master)  seemed closer to the chip.   It looks good, is in keeping with the order issued prior to the last deployment, agrees with those on the U 803 that was painted the same  and is closer to the photos at time of capture.  

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Posted by Hokey on Thursday, January 9, 2014 9:34 AM

I have the same question for my next build.

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1/72 U-505 Painting advice. Help!!!
Posted by texchap on Wednesday, January 8, 2014 1:06 PM

Please forgive me if this has been posted somewhere else. I did see one question in this forum and one reply but no other discussion. I have been combing the web for a factual response about the U505 at time of capture. I have seen it in the museum and I know that background of the painting of the U505 in the museum, how he aquired paint chips etc. I also know from reading that the Kreigsmarine directed U-Boats be painted darker colors over the original gray thinking it would help reduce their visibility. The instructions on the kit call for a matt gray on the upper hull, and a blue gray on the conning tower. One site calls for Dunkelgrau 51 in the upper hull and Blauschwartz 59/2 on the conning tower. Someone else said it was Blaugrau 58/1 on the upper hull and Blauschwartz 59/2 on the conning tower. I see in another article that in 1943 Schlickgrau 58, Blaugru 58 and Blauschwarz were directed for upper colors. The photos of the U505 at capture seem to show a darker gray on the hull and an even darker color on the conning tower. What is interesting is every model of the U505 I've seen has it Dunkelgrau 51 over all the upper including the conning tower (like the museum.   Opinions?


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