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  • Member since
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Posted by 1943Mike on Thursday, June 4, 2015 9:51 AM

GMorrison,

That's what I've decided to do except  I'll be undercoating the weather deck in Deck Blue (20 B) just to give it a little darker look - as if it had some "grunge" from all the equipment (tanks/vehicles, etc.) that were carried on that deck. I don't want to dirty it up too much since this was the S.S. Stephen Hopkins' maiden voyage from which she never returned.

At any rate I hope my friend George Cronk, Jr. will like the model.

Mike

http://www.usmm.org/hopkins.html

Mike

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, June 4, 2015 12:12 AM

Because the Liberty ships were not naval vessels but sailed for the Maritime Commission, they were painted in civilian shipyards; civilian colors. I think a good match is Ocean Gray.

The deck and the verticals were painted the same color AFAICT.

The thread you linked is right, but it's a little confusing. He goes on a bit about Measure 14, but its clear that Maritime Commission ships were NOT painted thus. They were held by their ankles and dipped in Gray. Ocean Gray is a good match.

Yes asking the volunteers doesn't get you anywhere. At the JOB the Navy periodically donates paint, what they get is what they use.

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, June 3, 2015 2:21 PM

I like the sound of the Measure 14 mentioned in the thread you referenced. Overall Haze Gray I do believe is more of a post WWII scheme.

 

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Posted by 1943Mike on Wednesday, June 3, 2015 1:47 PM

I hope it's OK to ask this question in this thread. It's just a bit off subject.

I'm currently starting to build a Liberty ship (Trumpeter 1/350 S.S. John W Brown as the S.S. Stephen Hopkins) and I've had no success finding out exactly what color(s) to paint it. I believe the most informative thread I've found will give me considerable leeway in my color choice(s) but I thought I'd ask on this forum in 2015 to see if there's anything new that can be added to the information I found in this 2005 thread from FineScale:

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/7/p/33023/342444.aspx

I called some folks at the S.S. Lane Victory in San Pedro and it didn't seem like anyone was sure of what the paint colors were on the S.S. Stephen Hopkins - I really couldn't expect them to know anyway. They did say that the Lane Victory was painted in Haze Gray but I am not sure if they meant now or back in WWII.

At any rate I've decided to use LifeColor Haze Gray for the entire ship with some Ocean Gray mixed in for the weather deck just to make it look a bit darker due to grime and weathering.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Mike

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Posted by subfixer on Wednesday, June 3, 2015 10:07 AM

Hah! Gray is not a color!   Stick out tongue

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 10:20 PM

WEM is missed.

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 7:51 PM

They have a Neutral Haze Gray and 5H Haze Gray listed. With the Neutral Haze Gray reputedly being the modern shade. I have not bought or used these colors yet, so I can not comment on regarding the appearance. Just what they have listed.

 

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Posted by Souda99 on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 7:47 PM

MM release a Natural Grey USN, but when it is dry it is more like deck grey.

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 7:23 PM

I am pretty sure that MM released both a WWII 5H and a modern Haze Gray. At least in the Enamel paint line.

 

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Posted by EdGrune on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 7:15 PM

stikpusher

Model Master Recently issued Haze Gray in both their Acrylic and Enamel lines.

The new ModelMaster Haze Gray is WWII era 5-H Haze Gray.   This paint has a purple/lue tint.   Modern USN Haze Gray does not equal 5H.    Modern Haze Gray 26270 is neutral gray,  no purple/blue tint.

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Posted by stikpusher on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 4:31 PM

Model Master Recently issued Haze Gray in both their Acrylic and Enamel lines.

 

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Posted by subfixer on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 2:03 PM

And don't forget, the shades of gray will vary in patches due to different areas of the ship being painted at different times by the crew.

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Posted by Mike F6F on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 12:35 PM

The correct paint is FS 26270.  Of course you may not be able to find it in semi-gloss so go for FS 36270.

I favor Model Master's line where it is called Neutral gray.  I'm sure others may prefer a different brand, but that's the correct gray for current US Navy ships.

Mike

 

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Haze Grey ?
Posted by ps1scw on Tuesday, June 2, 2015 10:44 AM

What brand of haze gray do you use for modern US Navy warships?

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