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Posted by tankerbuilder on Monday, February 22, 2016 12:09 PM

Well ;

   This is interesting for a Zombie thread though . Many ask for certain ships and if you could , imagine a National poll . What would come out of it ? Sail Ships for sure . I don't have any room for those unless they were 1/700 or whatever .

     Now for Victories , Yes there are some that are close . But after actually sailing in one in the 70s for a steamship line out of Seattle I say let's have a really good one .

     The Ocala Victory looked nothing like the Revell offering . The U.S.S. Haskell , right ? Well maybe , but a very distant replica .

 I feel all liners of all eras have gotten short shrift .The great ships should be represented .Why ? Well , have you ever seen such a sight as the Kaiser Whilhelm de gross , Lusitania , Mauratanias or the Queens  and of course for her short life , the Normandie  ?  For more modern ships , The S.S. United States , America , Andrea Doria , Christphoro Colombo and the Q.E.2  all lined up at their piers at the same time ?  Awesome ! 

I have seen pictures of the older great Ladies of the seas and seen with my own eyes the latter. Many warships are done and it's because of the fact they got sunk ! Or a certain event took place on their decks ( The end of W.W.2 ) on the " MO " .

     Speaking of her . Most of the models of the Great Iowa class are post 1982 .let's have them back as they were at the end of the war , before their conversions !

     They mention " Battle Cruisers "( American ) Is the U.S.S. Rochester one of those ? I saw her across from the Missouri in Bremerton and thought she was a smaller version of the " MO ". Darned fine lines and very Big guns !

 Anyway there's my thoughts .      P.S. of course the Nelson and Rodney ! Why ? Well they certainly had an unusual profile .    Tanker - Builder    P.P.S. How about a 1/350 Graf Spee before she got toasted in , Montevideo was it ?

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Posted by ships4ever on Monday, February 22, 2016 12:53 PM

Stick out tongueStick out tongueStick out tongueYeah, I have been advocating for a 1/350 Victory ship to go along with the 1/350 Libertys out there, as well as a 1/350 T-2 tanker. I have the old Esso Glasgow model, which is so-so, as long as you don't care about the ridiculous below-the-waterline, (best argument for waterlining I have ever seen). The old Queen Mary from Revell deserves a re-do. I have spent a lot of time on the old girl in the past couple of years for holiday dinners and never grow tired of her. They have a great display area for huge models of famous liners, from Lusitania to Titanic to QE2. For anyone planning to model those ships, I'd say it's an excellent reference. They are even cutaway! For battlecruisers, I'd like to see a plastic HMS Invincible, as it is such a historic vessel. Also, how about the USS Lexington with the original 7 funnels? I want something with more funnels than the 6 on my Edgar Quinet! Finally, a 1/700 supertanker would be great. 1/350 would require a bit more space than most want to invest in. My biggest request as far as tankers go is that I would like all the pipes on deck to be molded separately instead of being molded into the deck. It makes painting a real pain, and it detracts from the look of the model. Rant complete!

On the bench: 1/350 Trumpeter HMS Dreadnought; 1/350 Academy USS Reuben James FFG-57

 

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Posted by Sedona Shipbuilder on Monday, February 22, 2016 5:10 PM

I'd like to see more pre-dreadnought kits, especially the 1890s French tumblehome ships; Charles Martel or Massena; in 1/350 or larger scale.  US ships from that era are under-represented too.  The zombie box scale kits from the 1950s that are still marketed by new distributors were good enough when I was 12, but now I want better QA, detail, and accuracy.

Dennis

Model in progress: USS Oregon 1/225 by Glencoe

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, February 22, 2016 5:59 PM

Welcome! I'd love to see the Oregon as you go.

I agree about the Martel. About the closest I've seen is a very old Heller Potemkin I have half finished somewhere.

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Posted by goldhammer on Monday, February 22, 2016 6:19 PM

Looked for awhile years back to find an Oregon, did and it was stored in the motorhome out at a friends place.  Place got sold and cleaned out.  Never saw any of it again, coach or a 4x4 p/u that was out there as well.

 

 

How about some of the stuff plying the Great Lakes, preferably in styrene, and in a scale for fumbling older fingers and eyes.  There is close to 300 years of shipping to work off of.

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Posted by 1943Mike on Monday, February 22, 2016 10:54 PM

This is the little island in which I grew up. Born in 1943, I was lucky enough to see some marvelous ships along the piers on the Hudson River. My dad would sometimes drive my brother and I along Riverside Drive just to see the ships. The photo I'm attaching I just commandered from the net simply because it's from the 50's - when I was between 7 and 16 years old and this was the decade I remember best for the big ships. My dad worked for Otis Elevator Co. and one time he took my brother and I aboard one of those ships - I've forgotten whether it was the Queen Mary or the United States - to inspect an elevator in one of the stacks (His job was as an inspector Big Smile).

It would be nice to see more liners available in styrene.

Mike

 

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Posted by Phil_H on Monday, February 22, 2016 11:20 PM

tankerbuilder
P.P.S. How about a 1/350 Graf Spee before she got toasted in , Montevideo was it ?

Available from both Trumpeter and Academy in 1/350

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Posted by uspsjuan on Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:03 AM
I still would like to see one of our newer carriers done in 1/200. Can you say super detail and lights !
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Posted by Don Stauffer on Thursday, February 25, 2016 8:55 AM

I'd love to see more of the old 1:600 sailing ships, maybe with PE rigging either included or as an option package.  I saw an item in FSM about a 1:700 Victory, but the web site shown in the mag did not list the kit.  And since I already have a few of the old ones built, I'd like to see them stay with the 1:600.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by jtilley on Thursday, February 25, 2016 10:38 AM

Don, take a look at this: http://navymodelsandbooks.co.uk/product-category/meridian-1700-scale-trafalgar-ships/ .

I think this is the old Skytrex line, repackaged. I have the Skytrex 1/700 HMS Victory; it's a really nice kit. And now the new owners are converting to resin from white metal.

In the back of my mind I have the notion of a diorama featuring that 1/700 Constitution being towed by the Skywave 1/700 Perry-class frigate Samuel Eliot Morison. That scene actually happened some years back, when the Morison towed the Constitution on her annual July 4 "turnaround cruise" around Boston Harbor.

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, February 27, 2016 10:26 PM
That would be a cool dio. Although, the mental prospect of a 1/700 Constitution is making my eyes hurt.
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Posted by Tojo72 on Tuesday, March 1, 2016 10:45 AM

I want a WWII German Commerce Raider in 1/350 like Atlantis,Kormoran,Pinguin,or Orion done right,fully detailed Ala Hasegawa,Dragon.

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Posted by ddp59 on Tuesday, March 1, 2016 4:19 PM
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Posted by ikar01 on Tuesday, March 1, 2016 8:48 PM

What about a Great Lakes carrier?  It sure would attract attention to see a carrier with paddle wheels.

Or, to go back even farther, a City class ironclad from the Civil war, of some of the ships from the Great white Fleet.  They had some designs you wouldn't believe.

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Posted by chango on Wednesday, March 2, 2016 8:33 AM

I can never get enough of 1/200 scale and I hope we get more in the future. I would really love to see some golden age liners in the scale (and not just an inevitable Titanic... my first choice would be Queen Mary). I would sign on to a 1/200 essex class carrier too. 

A 1/72 type XXI U-boat would also be awesome. 

Finally I would really love to see some new tool, large scale "Age of Sail" subjects. 

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Posted by ships4ever on Thursday, March 3, 2016 3:50 PM

There is a 1/700 Great Lakes carrier that will be out soon. The USS Wolverine is on the Pacific Front website. It is a resin kit from Blue Ridge Models. From the pics, it looks really great, with PE for paddlewheels, as well as the obligatory railings, etc.

As for City Class ironclads, Flagship Models has a 1/192 USS Cairo. You can also find that on Pacific Front.

On the bench: 1/350 Trumpeter HMS Dreadnought; 1/350 Academy USS Reuben James FFG-57

 

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Posted by Hokey on Thursday, March 3, 2016 4:19 PM

ships4ever

There is a 1/700 Great Lakes carrier that will be out soon.  

From where? 

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Posted by ships4ever on Friday, March 4, 2016 11:41 AM

Pacific Front, or Freetime Hobbies. Looks really cool, and the price is $99.95.

On the bench: 1/350 Trumpeter HMS Dreadnought; 1/350 Academy USS Reuben James FFG-57

 

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Posted by jtilley on Friday, March 4, 2016 11:47 AM

I believe Pacific Front is now part of Freetime Hobbies. Blue Ridge Models seems to be Freetime's house brand.

The kit does look great.

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Posted by Hokey on Friday, March 4, 2016 11:50 AM

ships4ever

Pacific Front, or Freetime Hobbies. Looks really cool, and the price is $99.95.

I'm struggling here. Anything Pacific Fron seems to resolve to Freetime Hobbies and there, searching for Great Lakes, I don't find any new 1/700 laker for $99. What am I missing?

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Posted by ships4ever on Friday, March 4, 2016 3:14 PM

Search for USS Wolverine. It also shows up automatically as one of the first new items on the page.

On the bench: 1/350 Trumpeter HMS Dreadnought; 1/350 Academy USS Reuben James FFG-57

 

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Posted by Hokey on Friday, March 4, 2016 3:35 PM

ships4ever

Search for USS Wolverine. It also shows up automatically as one of the first new items on the page.

Crap! I'm thining I'm looking for a Great Lakes ore boat - totally missed the meaning of carrier which is of course whaty it is! I saw that kit and was saying to myself "thats an aircraft carrier not a Great Lakes boat".  Prolly cuz I never knew there was such an animal!

Sorry for the trouble!

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Posted by ships4ever on Friday, March 4, 2016 4:08 PM

There were actually two of those paddle wheel training carriers, the Wolverine and the Sable. They were converted from paddlewheel steamers early in WWII. They weren't always the best solution for carrier training, as they were pretty slow, so there were times of low wind conditions where they simply couldn't be used. Still, they make a good trivia question: "Name two paddlewheel aircraft carriers". Somehow I doubt if they'll come up on Jeopardy. Nonetheless, I really love unusual subjects to model, so Wolverine would be just up my alley.

On the bench: 1/350 Trumpeter HMS Dreadnought; 1/350 Academy USS Reuben James FFG-57

 

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Posted by Hokey on Friday, March 4, 2016 4:10 PM

I watch Jeopardy daily so I'll be on the lookout! Thanks for the details.

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, March 4, 2016 7:00 PM

I think that Blue Ridge is a reincarnation of the Yankee Modelworks Co. I bought a Blue Ridge Nautilus SSN 571. A really really nice model on 1/350.

Memory teases me that Mark Mitscher trained on one of the paddlewheel carriers, but I looked it up again and could only find reference to Langley. A true brown shoe and one heck of an Admiral. Just read a good book which involved Task Force 58, Mitscher and his brain trust including Arleigh Burke.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by PlasticFanatic on Wednesday, April 6, 2016 10:12 PM

Nice thread. Me? I'd love to see a 1/350 scale Essex-class carrier with the angled deck, island and hurricane bow modifications.

Higgins PT boats, in 1/72 and 1/35 scales respectively, with optional PE and plastic parts for early and late-war upgrades, such as radar, torpedo tubes or launch racks, and varying fits of rapid-fire cannon and 40mm AA guns.

USCG Point-class cutters.

A USN Swift boat in 1/35 scale. A nice complement to the Tamiya PBR and Dragon Light Seal Support Craft, or LSSC.

More civilian motorboats, motor yachts and sailboats in plastic. say, in 1/48 scale or a constant scale for compatiblity in size and display.

 

Thanks,

Randy

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Posted by jtilley on Wednesday, April 6, 2016 11:22 PM

Here's (I think) a reasonable suggestion, given the current interest in World War I: how about a 1/700 Lusitania? If Aoshima did it, maybe it could include the U-20, the sub that sank her. (Aoshima did similar things for the Ark Royal and the Wasp.) For that matter, how about a 1/350 WWI U-boat? Few classes of ships have had a bigger impact on history.

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Thursday, April 7, 2016 7:40 AM

Well,Gee!DDP59

 Tanks for the Memories .She's a purty thing ,ain't she ?

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Posted by 1943Mike on Thursday, April 7, 2016 10:25 AM

Wow, that's one good looking cruiser! What's in the tub(s)? hanging off the stern? AA?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Rochester_%28CA-124%29#/media/File:USS_Rochester_%28CA-124%29.jpg

Mike

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Posted by warshipguy on Thursday, April 7, 2016 1:53 PM

Randy,

There is, in fact, a 1/350 USS Intrepid available from Gallery Models. It is an excellent kit. You should look into it.

Bill

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