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The launching of the USS Puffer (SS-268) diorama COMPLETE.

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Posted by CG Bob on Thursday, March 31, 2016 9:41 PM

ManShipCo was guided by Electric Boat, and there were some EB people helping ManShipCo.  I was told by one of the COBIA volunteers last year at SubFest, that Manitowoc boats had wood decking over a longer section of the hull than the other companies boats. 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, March 31, 2016 9:54 PM

Bob I’m curious,

I can’t tell form the pictures but do you know if the boats launched were already painted in MS9 (all black with Dark Grey 5-D horizontal surfaces) or possibly MS10 (Ocean Grey 5-O above the waterline), or were they primed with natural wood decks and painted later in New Orleans?

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, April 1, 2016 8:48 PM
I answered my own question regarding the paint and deck. It looks like they were launched without a deck and the paint was probably primer.
Here is some photographic evidence.
An unknown sub being lunched
 
Another unknown just prior to launch.
The Robalo after launch and being pushed back to the shore.
A nice close-up of the bow
 
 
And stern. Note the inclination meter on the port side.
This leaves me with a whole lot more work than originally thought. If I can come up with the Musashi wreck, I can get this done.
Steve

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Posted by CG Bob on Friday, April 1, 2016 10:23 PM

Navsource has some interesting pictures.  They show this water color print by artist Tom Denton - lloks like Measure 9, overall Black scheme.

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Posted by Modelrob on Saturday, April 2, 2016 4:19 AM
I am going to have to keep up with this build. The Dio sounds very interesting and you do some very good work.
 

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Saturday, April 2, 2016 10:07 AM
Bob,
I was lead to a link with the actual Puffer being hauled in after launching. It looks like quite a few colors going on here. I’m going to have to go with my best guess.

Steve

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Posted by goldhammer on Saturday, April 2, 2016 10:12 AM

I wonder how much of that color variation is due to splash from water during the launch (depending on when the photo was taken).  I would assume that most of the hull would be painted while still on the ways and she was dry and accessible.  On the other hand, all of those pics of various boats show a big variance of colors in places, even boat to boat.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Saturday, April 2, 2016 3:55 PM
GH,
Good point, there probably is some wet in the variation of color.
I removed the deck. I will need to add the outer hull to the bow. There are also some mechanics I need to scratch for the bow planes.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, April 3, 2016 4:33 PM
Moving back to the base, I sanded the first layer and applied some color to the water. This is NOT the color I will be using, I am experimenting with shades and it allows me to see the texture better.
I added a second coat of gel painting it on with a slight wave pattern. I believe all of these coats are accumulative and add to the final look.
After the last coat dried, it was sanded again and I applied another coat of gel stippling it once again but working the gel into a small wave pattern. The look is to simulate a slight breeze on the river.
This will be sanded again after it dries and painted with the final color.

Steve

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Posted by Tal Afar Dave on Sunday, April 3, 2016 5:46 PM

Great idea, Steve!!  Absolutely stoked to see your idea being put into an actual diorama.  I will be following your efforts as I have a great affection for American World War II submarines.  My grandfather was a motor mac and eventually left the Navy after 28 years of service.  He was a plank owner on the USS Jack, SS-259, a Groton built Gato.  So, your project really got me excited to see an American WWII sub being built.  (Can't believe how close those folks are to those flying support beams in the pictures!!!  Obviously, there wasn't much risk assessment being done at the time!! LOL

 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, April 3, 2016 5:55 PM

Thanks Dave, 

Whenever I come up a new nutty idea I'm always fascinated with with the research I and others come up.

This hobby has taught me more about history than I would ever learn with a history degree. 

Steve

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Posted by Bakster on Sunday, April 3, 2016 9:25 PM

M-C, thanks for this step by step process that you are presenting. This is something that I want to learn and I appreciate anything that you are willing to share. This is a very cool project.

Steve

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, April 4, 2016 10:53 PM

Thanks Bakster, jump aboard and well learn together.

Here the base is painted and sanded. Next will be the construction of the wave.
Also, I’m working on the Gato. I removed the deck and after some hard to find and difficult to interpret photos and drawings I added some items to the outer hull including escape hatches and the forward torpedo loading hatch. I still need to scratch the bow plane retract mechanism and install the aft torpedo hatch. Once these are completed I will add the deck cross members and welded steel walkways. This is all totally best guess.
 
By the way GH, I talked to the head guy at the SLC contest regarding the original picture in a frame. He said it would not be a problem and was interested to see the finished project. Yeah so am I.
Steve
 

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Posted by goldhammer on Tuesday, April 5, 2016 7:53 AM

Nice on the picture at the show.  Seeing what you do, that will go along way toward providing context on the dio, and should help secure some of the goodies awarded.

 

Nice job so far on the base and boat both.  Don't put in the rusted out corroded metal on the plane mechanism though.......Wink

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, April 5, 2016 10:01 PM
A little more work on the base tonight. I cut the plastic sheet to form the splash wave, painted it using brush strokes in the direction of the splash and applied heavy gel to start to form the wave. I have never tried this before so you are pioneering this with me.
 

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Posted by goldhammer on Wednesday, April 6, 2016 9:02 AM

Looking very nice, that works for me.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, April 6, 2016 9:58 AM

Thanks GH,

My hope is that the gel will dry clear enough where one can see the color but it's not on the surface. Most of it will be covered with cotton, but the hint will be there.

I also grabbed a few parts from the spares box and am constructing the bow plane mechanism. Next will be installing the deck cross members.

Steve

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Posted by Hunter on Wednesday, April 6, 2016 3:35 PM

Steve,

I am in awe on how quick and awesome this build is coming alone. I believe there is a first place plaque coming your way at the SL contest. I have taken snap shots of your instructions so far so that I can follow your steps in the water area of the dio. Absolutely a wonderful job friend. 

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Posted by goldhammer on Wednesday, April 6, 2016 3:42 PM

On the medium stuff it wanted to dry kind of cloudy on me in a thicker coat, something around an 1/8 of an inch thick. But the temp varied in the shop from 50 to 70 degrees.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, April 6, 2016 10:43 PM
I started the deck cross members. I used .02” strips. Below is the bow plane mechanism.

Steve

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Posted by Hokey on Thursday, April 7, 2016 11:15 AM

modelcrazy
I started the deck cross members. I used .02” strips. Below is the bow plane mechanism.
 

Are you building this "scratch" deckless becasue they luanched with no deck or?

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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, April 7, 2016 11:28 AM

Hokey
Are you building this "scratch" deckless becasue they luanched with no deck or?

Yes, every pic I see of the Wisconsin launchings were deckless, which adds a whole lot more work for me.

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Posted by Hokey on Thursday, April 7, 2016 11:31 AM

LOL oh ya I see that now! Didn't notice in earlier posts. You need the work I'm sure!

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, April 10, 2016 10:08 PM
I’ve been working on the deck stringers, which takes quite a bit of time. I had to purchase some more styrene strips to finish and they should be here sometime this week. In the meantime the heavy acrylic gel on the base is still drying but I should be able to start adding cotton at some point soon.

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Posted by Bakster on Monday, April 11, 2016 11:14 AM

MC, your model is looking excellent!  Thanks for the update... Keep them coming.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Tuesday, April 12, 2016 9:06 PM
While I’m waiting for the styrene to arrive, I am working on the wave. I added some cotton and attached it with some acrylic gel. Once this is dry I will form it and spray it with acrylic varnish.

Steve

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Posted by goldhammer on Wednesday, April 13, 2016 7:46 AM

Ooooooooooooooooooo..looks good. 

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Posted by modelcrazy on Wednesday, April 13, 2016 1:29 PM

Thanks GH,

I need to "groom" the cotton into something that looks more like spray, then AB some varnish to stiffen it. After that I will apply some more as needed. Making the cotton look like spray and not cotton is the tough part everything up till now is easy.

Steve

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Posted by fox on Wednesday, April 13, 2016 2:20 PM

This build sure has a lot of "Wow Factor" being built into it (as usual). Toast

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Posted by Bakster on Wednesday, April 13, 2016 4:56 PM

Looking good MC.  I am taking notes.

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