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thank's mate , I'm slowly learning .
steve
steve5 the top part of the main mast , not sure what you call it , was shatered in the box , made a new one out of a tooth pick " />
the top part of the main mast , not sure what you call it , was shatered in the box , made a new one out of a tooth pick
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Modeling is an excuse to buy books.
gene
thank's mate , the colour on the hull is just a copy off of davidk's way of doing a wooden hull , [haven't got it down like his though ] , the other's are just tamiya paint's ,
can't wait to see you back modeling too my friend . I learn a bit of you with each build .
Hi Steve, I leave you alone for a little while & you come up with something beautiful like this. It is really a winner. I had to get off modeling for a short time as I have a lot working on ebay, a drawing, & my wifes eye surgery. I can't wait to get back to some peaceful ships.
What are your colors on the Hind, I love the tan ship color. I still have an Airfix Hind I want to do. Keep it up, you are super.
" />after reading some of the history about the golden hind , I wonder how they came up with this little guy , as a figure head, wonder what happened to the pelican or hind , ??
I would like to see her careened on the beach at Point Reyes....
Probably best to take most of the "history" on this with a grain of salt.
Sailors are a superstitious lot, and back in those days even more so. Considered very bad luck to change a ship's name at the best of times. Middle of a successful voyage doubly so. But, just the sort of thing a person, in Court, might say, after the fact, to impress a courtier-investor.If we had a way-back machine and could watch Cap'n Drake's ship, I'd not be surprised if she were a weathered gray, iwht darkened (coal black stained or tarred) wales. Perhaps some well-weathered thin lime whitewash trim, with maybe some blue elements. And neither firgurehead nor transom carvings at all (perhaps a bas-relief pelican on the trail boards forward).Now, back to Merry Olde Blighty and successful beyond even Croce's dreams of avarice, she may have been gussied up, the better to be "suitable" for all the royal attention she was given.
I have hugely fond memories of the Revell kit, and have a mental post-it of sorts to put her at a quayside, all weathered and 'honest' pirate to outboard, and being painted up all fancy like on the landward side. All of which would be an excuse to keep all the carvings, but set them in a sort of context.
I basially just followed the box art bill , I've still got a bit to do up the bow , I just copied
Steve,
That is an interesting paint scheme. How did you select the colors?
Bill
I'm really enjoying the build , but gee I have had to to do some sanding etc , to make thing's fit . it's almost like , rough enough is good enough with this kit .
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" />was finally able to get some work done on this build
Taking a look at David Ks WIP,
Imai did the deer. My guess with out looking is that it copies the replica ship. But that's a guess.
John,
I agree. However, it makes for interesting discussion and speculation! It is also interesting to contrast the figureheads and transom carvings of the different manufacturers' offerings. Does anyone know how Zvesda molded theirs?
I suppose that the best we can do for accuracy is to model the recreation in London. To the best of my knowledge, there have been three replicas built in England. Each differed from the others in their details. Perhaps the Revell/Heller, Airfix, Zvesda, and/or Imai kits could be modified to reflect all three.
I have serious doubts about any decorations on a Golden Hind model.
The truth is that we know next to nothing about this ship. Nobody has ever found a decent contemporary picture of her. The Revell kit clearly is based on the plans in a book by a German ship modeler Whose name I've forgotten) that was published in the 1940s.
We have her approximate dimensions, and we know she was originally named Pelican. (The pelican, a big bird that wraps its wings around its brood, was a fairly common symbol for Queen Elizabeth I.) There's ONE brief reference in ONE contemporary document to the effect that, at sea somewhere in the Caribbean, Drake renamed her Golden Hind. (The golden hind was a heraldic symbol on the coat of arms of one of the expedition's wealthy patrons.) At least one modern scholar questions whether the name change actually happened.
Maybe she originally had a pelican for a figurehead. And heaven only knows what was painted or carved on her transom. In any case, it seems highly unlikely that a skilled carver made her a new figurehead or carved royal arms for her transom. If he did, it seems even less likely that the carvings matched the superb quality of those in the Revell/Heller kit.
Part of me thinks it would be most accurate to trash the figurehead and scrape the ornament off the transom. But they're so beautiful....
Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.
Several years ago, they had a replica of the Golden Hind at Port Canaveral. It was supposed to be the original size. It was amazing how small it was. Most of the charter fishing boats were bigger. The head room on the lower deck was about 5'. A handout said that the sailors back then averaged about 4' tall.
Still doesn't explain the lack of said on the stern post. I recall seeing Revell or Heller versions of the Golden Hind with a *Hind* embossed on the stern. Am I *still* missing somthing?
Rob
No problem. I was just trying to be a little humorous.
thanks bill I'll put my glasses on next time
A "hind" is a doe, a deer, a female deer . . .
just had a look at the airfix model , a hind is a horse !!
Okay .
Now that that's been settled does anyone know what a hind is ? It is definitely not our backside ! T.B.
I just noticed your question regarding crew figures and quickly checked my Heller kit. No, Heller did not include any crew figures.
GM,
You have raised an interesting point about the Royal coat of arms found on the Revell/Heller versions. The Airfix kit does not have this on the transom. That transom is molded with the hind.
rob
it was a light grey colour
Right. I had a kit molded in dark brown and the benefit was that once the hull was painted a lighter brown..I went back and used a scalpel to scrape off the paint on all the relieved surfaces...the banding and such to expose the original cast brown plastic color. In this way I didn't have to tackle with edgeing the paint of a different color for the relief areas.
It was clean and sharp. However, the white base color would not work.
Rob,
I have this kit. It was molded in white plastic.
Steve..what color is the original plastic?
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