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Should I, shouldn't I? —Advice needed for purchase of very old Revell model

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  • Member since
    July 2019
  • From: Vancouver, British Columbia
Posted by Bobstamp on Thursday, November 26, 2020 1:16 PM

ddp59

model is 32.85cm x 4.5cm x 1.54cm at 1/482.484. real ship is 520' x 71'6" x 24'6". the model is actually to wide at the main deck level not to narrow. what do you mean by "the time I have left on this benighted planet." cancer?



Thanks for continuing to keep me on the straight and narrow, ddp59. I remembered your previous post on this subject, I just didn't remember correctly! I'm coming around to the idea of building the model without being overly concerned about scale accuracy. Those railings do bother me. I even tried light washes to simulate the space between parts of the railings, with the result that the railing still looked solid but also looked dirty! But replacing them with photoetch railing seems like a kitbashing too far for me, at least at this time. 
 
About the time I have left: Nope, no cancer, thank god, just old age and a variety of health problems -- PTSD, rheumatoid arthritis and osteoarthritis that have wrecked my knees and feet, diverticulosis, and GERD. But not to complain: My best friend, who encouraged me to get back into modelling, has no more than a few weeks to live. He had surgery for a very rare form of prostate cancer only three or four months ago; his bladder and lower bowel were removed, but the surgeon was unable to excise all of the tumor. He's in hospice now, but in such severe pain that he had has to take powerful pain meds that pretty much knock him out for most of the day. I've talked with him by phone a few times, but his wife tells me that he's no longer even able to hold the phone. He's in his mid 80s. This outcome is not a surprise: When he was diagnosed, his doctor told him that only four other men in British Columbia had ever been diagnosed with it, and none of them survived long.
 
Bob
 
 

On the bench: A diorama to illustrate the crash of a Beech T-34B Mentor which I survived in 1962 (I'm using Minicraft's 1/48 model of the Mentor), and a Pegasus model of the submarine Nautilus of 20,000 Leagues Under the Seas fame. 

  • Member since
    April 2005
Posted by ddp59 on Thursday, November 26, 2020 3:30 PM

no problem.  what i am doing with the Arizona & Haven hulls is kitbashing not using PE. my 2 hospital ships won't have any railings including PE as they are overscale. there is a slightly bigger scale Haven hospital ship as i have 1 off ebay. material seems to be not styrene but maybe vinyl & the model is not full hull but has a really flat bottom.

  • Member since
    July 2019
  • From: Vancouver, British Columbia
Posted by Bobstamp on Tuesday, February 8, 2022 9:24 PM

I'm back! And just today I put the finishing touches on my U.S.S. Repose model. The last step: installing an antenna (after I took the following photop) on the tail of the Sikorsky UH-34 Raven helicopter, which I scratch built to replace the one in the kit, which doesn't really look like a Raven and was way too small. I even added a nearly microscopic Lucky Red Lions insignia decal to the chopper — that was the squadron that flew my Marine Corps battalion about Quang Ngai and Quang Nam Provinces during my brief tour of duty. (A Finescale member, Pawel, created the insignia that I used to print my decals. Thank you, Pawel!) Here is a photo of the tiny helicopter: 

 

 

I also added scratch-built radar and radio antennas that weren't included in the kit, and more or less look like what can be seen less than clearly in photos of the ship. 

The Revell kit is a bit of a nightmare to build. Lots of mild warping, plastic that sometimes seemed unaffected by Tamiya styrene cement, and many dimples from the moulding process. Except for a few original decals, I printed my own in an attempt to replicate the ship's appearance during the Vietnam War, but it was difficult to figure out what that appearance actually was because different wartime photos show different paint schemes, different masts, different antennas, and different lifeboats and utility boats. In the end I have a model of what appears to be an American hospital ship, and has decals  identifying it by correct name and hull number, but it would never pass muster if compared to the Repose that I "visited,"as a surgical patient, in 1966.

 

The biggest problems I encountered resulted from lack of experience. I sprayed, filed and sanded parts too vigorously, failed to wait long enough for paint and glue to dry, and managed to break a few fragile parts through clumsiness. I might as well say it now: some of inexperience resulted in making mistake that simply couldn’t be undone, and I ended up buying two additional kits, one of the U.S.S. Haven and another of the U.S.S. Hope. I had ”hoped” that I could build a second model, but not enough undamaged parts are left for a complete build. But truth be known, I just don’t have the patience to even try to build a second Repose model.

 

In the end, I have a model that I am proud of, and I learned a great deal by building it. I have started another model, of the submarine Nautilus of 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea fame, produced by the Pegasus model company. It seems to be a beautifully designed kit, and I think that my skills have improved enough to make it “come alive”. I especially like that base, a giant squid, painted fire-engine red, that has ensnared the Nautilus in its tentacles. I’ve also ordered a LED lighting kit, from Evan Designs,  to make the submarine’s detailed saloon visible.

 

Almost forgot: I ordered and have received a custom-made acrylic display case for my Repose model, made for me by the Modellers Workshop in Montreal. I’ll take some pictures soon so you can the finished model.

 

I’ve wondered if I established a new record for slowness in completing my model of Repose, but checking back in this thread tells me that I ordered the first kit in July, 2020. Not too bad, I guess, considering some of the problems I encountered. Besides, I’m retired, and there’s a pandemic. What else is there to do? I’ve suggested other activities to my wife of 55 years, but she told me just to go back to working on my model ship and leave her alone!

 

Bob      

 

  

On the bench: A diorama to illustrate the crash of a Beech T-34B Mentor which I survived in 1962 (I'm using Minicraft's 1/48 model of the Mentor), and a Pegasus model of the submarine Nautilus of 20,000 Leagues Under the Seas fame. 

  • Member since
    August 2021
Posted by goldhammer88 on Tuesday, February 8, 2022 9:54 PM

Nice job on the scratched helo.

I've got several kits that have ended up in the box of doom, it takes as long as it takes.

Don't worry about what others think, as long as you're happy and proud of it, that's all that matters.

  • Member since
    July 2019
  • From: Vancouver, British Columbia
Posted by Bobstamp on Thursday, February 24, 2022 10:35 PM

And here it is, my completed model of the hospital ship U.S.S. Repose. In case you missed my earlier posts about this model, Repose was on station off the coast of South Vietnam, near Da Nang, on March 5, 1966, the day that my Marine Corps company was ambushed by a combined company of Main Force Viet Cong and soldiers of a regiment of the People’s Army of Viet Nam (PAVN). I was a U.S. Navy hospital corpsman seconded to the Marines. I was shot through my right thigh as I attempted to give first aid to a grievously wounded Marine. Eventually I was evacuated to a field hospital and then to Repose for surgery. Quite naturally, Repose has a permanent berth in my heart. 

The model was a difficult build, in large part because I am an amateur modeller, at best. And it’s also inaccurate model, at best. Repose was commissioned in August, 1945, so missed most of the Second World War, but took part in the Korean War and much later in the Vietnam War. The ship underwent many changes, having a helicopter landing platform added during the Korean War and subsequently undergoing many changes and improvements, to the point that it’s hard to find any two photographs that seem to show the same ship.  

At one point in the ship’s history it was apparently lengthened. Masts and derricks were added or removed, various antennae were installed/removed, the flying bridge was widened, paint schemes changed, and deck furniture was altered, added, or removed. Lifeboats and rafts and utility craft were updated or dropped entirely. 

One Finescale member pointed out that the model wasn’t wide enough, and that the overall scale of the model was incorrect. Although the model was released in different forms, as the Navy hospital ship Haven and the civilian hospital ship repose, the molds, dating back to the mid or late 1950s, were never updated. I actually ended up buying three “Repose” kits, in part because many parts were poorly molded or warped over time (and, full disclosure) because I really screwed up the painting of both the hull and had a lot of difficulty adding deck drains (which weren’t molded into the hull).  

At the end, despite the difficulties I encountered, I’m very happy with the model, which features a scratch-built Seahorse helicopter (the chopper that came with the kit was far too small and would never have been mistaken for a Seahorse), a scratch-built "tent" on the weather deck that's visible in some Vietnam War photos, DIY decals, a custom decal for the landing platform from Bedlam Creations, and a lot of mostly imaginary antenna and radar arrays.  

And here it is, "sailing" in the custom display case I ordered from Modellers Workshop in Montreal:

Thank you to the several Finescale discussion board members who offered their suggestions throughout the build, which took more than two years. I learned a great deal from them. 

Bob Ingraham

Vancouver

On the bench: A diorama to illustrate the crash of a Beech T-34B Mentor which I survived in 1962 (I'm using Minicraft's 1/48 model of the Mentor), and a Pegasus model of the submarine Nautilus of 20,000 Leagues Under the Seas fame. 

  • Member since
    April 2003
  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Thursday, February 24, 2022 10:47 PM

Turned out great Bob.  Not many of us have subjects so personally significant.  Whats left to build for your 'trip home' collection?

Thanks,

John

  • Member since
    August 2020
  • From: Apex, NC
Posted by gomeral on Sunday, March 6, 2022 8:17 PM

It looks fantastic, Bob.  Great job!  Yes

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