Sinkings, Founderings, and Torpedoeings

Thanks Dodgy, its one of my few talents; being the purveyer of odd information and a bit odd. Actually, when I first saw the title of this thread, I expected to see a picture of my ex-wife. It is the perfect description of my first marriage.

Bill, Yeah, the High Point is sitting alongside one of the piers near one of the fisheries (Pacific Coast Seafoods). An effort was started a while back to restore it at least to some extent and return it to Seattle as it was built by Boeing. I believe that the 'effort' died early.

Go to Google Maps and in the search box, type in 46.198648, -123.759150  

HooYah Deep Sea

An interesting note for all; Cerberus is the latinized form of the Greek word 'kerberos', said to mean 'spotted'. Therefore, the mythically vicious, gigantic, three-headed hound of Hades, who guarded gates of the underworld against the escape of the dead, is actually named "Spot".      (nice doggy, can I get you a milkbone?)

 

You're a bloody classic mate!

Hmm don't know about that one. I will look it up.

On the subject of old navy wrecks, another client of mine for whom we designed a shipyard sign program bought the submersible drydock with roof that earlier took the "claw" down to Santa Catalina Island, sank itself, opened the roof for the Glomar Explorer to sail across on top of it and retrieve the grapple.

After this character won the bid for the barge, it was revealed that the carcass of the "Sea Shadow" was inside of it and it was to be taken to a bonded ship wrecker at some cost for monitored destruction.

Sadly, it was washed overboard enroute from Long Beach to San Francisco. 

Bill

And while you're there you could check out the remains of the old Navy hydrofoil High Point, slowly deteriorating pierside. It would only take a million or so to fix up, you know, pocket change.

goldhammer

A couple more could be the Peter Iredale up by Astoria, and the New Carrisa off Coos Bay, both in Oregon.  Lot of photos of both of those.

 

A couple we are friends with- she runs the donor campaign at the Maritime Museum and he's a retired Coastie helicopter pilot.

Bill

A couple more could be the Peter Iredale up by Astoria, and the New Carrisa off Coos Bay, both in Oregon.  Lot of photos of both of those.

stikpusher

Has anybody ever modeled the Honda Point grounding of a Destroyer Squadron in 1923?

The Mirage 1/400 series of 'Four Stackers' would be perfect for that!

stikpusher

Has anybody ever modeled the Honda Point grounding of a Destroyer Squadron in 1923?

 

There's a part of one, maybe an anchor, at a fornlorn little station a ways westbound at a place called Surf.

 Don Stauffer served in the AF at Vandenberg.

Bill

Dodgy

but it would need someone with the bank balance of Bill Gates to do it.

Cutty Sark would be interesting because of her composite construction. Therer was a great wreck down at Cape Horn for a long time, now gone.

Bill

An interesting note for all; Cerberus is the latinized form of the Greek word 'kerberos', said to mean 'spotted'. Therefore, the mythically vicious, gigantic, three-headed hound of Hades, who guarded gates of the underworld against the escape of the dead, is actually named "Spot".      (nice doggy, can I get you a milkbone?)

HooYah Deep Sea

Dodgy,

You could always convert one of those Cutty Sarks into the subject of the Wadsworth poem; Wreck of the Hesperus. Also, I'd really like to see a model of the HMVS Cerberus.

 

That's a very interesting concept Brian old boy. I'm going to give that some serious thought! As for the Cerberus, I have a very small scale kit of her, that when built would probably be only two inches long. The original was sunk in fairly shallow water at Blackrock and filled with concrete. There has been lots of talk about raising and restoring her, but it would need someone with the bank balance of Bill Gates to do it.

How about DKM Scharnhorst and Gneisenau firing on and sinking HMS Glorious?

Bill

Has anybody ever modeled the Honda Point grounding of a Destroyer Squadron in 1923?

Nope.  Says we have to sign in to verify we are you.

gregbale

 

 

steve5

captmac82 , don't know about anyone else , but to me those pic's didn't come through . just a circle with a small stroke through it .

 

 

 

I saw them this morning...but they're 'gone' now.

 

Dang it.  I can't make those any more Public.  And Kalmbach has allowed them before.  GRRRR

Perhaps this Link will work:  https://photos.app.goo.gl/mmK4bPo2BJdaPQeN9

Pretty much a collapsing shell now, said trying to keep it from falling in on itself.  Guns supposedly preserved and placed along side.  Remember seeing a segment on her a few years ago.

Aha! 

  The last T.V. mention of her showed a very delapidated Monitor sitting on the Bottom. I don't think ANY amount of work would help now!

Was scuttled as a breakwater in the mid 20's.  Been several preservation attempts over the years, but time is taking a toll.

Just under 4000 tons.

All according to wiki.

Cerberus, wasn't she a coastal monitor weighing in at about 12,000 tons?  I think she is still sitting in shallow water down there and someone was trying to get her restored.

Amazing that they sailed it all the way from England to Australia.

steve5

captmac82 , don't know about anyone else , but to me those pic's didn't come through . just a circle with a small stroke through it .

I saw them this morning...but they're 'gone' now.

captmac82 , don't know about anyone else , but to me those pic's didn't come through . just a circle with a small stroke through it .

modelcrazy

 

 

GMorrison

Just need to find a San Juan Capistrano- ESSO Glasgow.

 

 

 

 

Bill,

Is that from "Finest Hours"?

 

ikar01

Or you could do a diorama of a allied ship capturing a U-boat that has partly sunk but was saved before it could go down. The boats would have been pretty close

Norfolk Naval Museum did that, based on all the historical data:

This is either 1/144 or 1/96 and is close to ten foot (3m) by five.

Longer view:

Detail:

Just how crowded the case is:

Dodgy,

You could always convert one of those Cutty Sarks into the subject of the Wadsworth poem; Wreck of the Hesperus. Also, I'd really like to see a model of the HMVS Cerberus.

This is a fascinating subject. I have a couple of incomplete Revell?? Cutty Sarks and have always wanted to do a diorama of a shipwreck with them. Ship on it's side , waves breaking over the decks, sails in tatters and lots of flotsam and jetsem. But a battle scene is possible with sailing ships, and being a model, there is a certain amount of artistic licence that can be taken.....

I think Lindberg has shown it can be done with perfect historical accuracy....

....mind you, the fact that the ships are two completely different scales confuses the effect somewhat....

Yeah!

       That's what I thought, but I didn't want to mis-identify the ships.

According to "Raising the Fleet", most of the machinery and the stern sections were shipped to Mare Island, and used for new hulls, keeping the names of the originals.

Cassin is the one on her side.

Yeah, Steve! 

 I believe the two destroyers were the Cassin and the Downes. They refloated the sunken one and she went to war too!