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Posted by gregbale on Saturday, May 22, 2021 6:42 PM

steve5

captmac82 , don't know about anyone else , but to me those pic's didn't come through . just a circle with a small stroke through it .

I saw them this morning...but they're 'gone' now.

Greg

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Posted by ikar01 on Saturday, May 22, 2021 7:08 PM

Cerberus, wasn't she a coastal monitor weighing in at about 12,000 tons?  I think she is still sitting in shallow water down there and someone was trying to get her restored.

 

Amazing that they sailed it all the way from England to Australia.

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Posted by goldhammer on Saturday, May 22, 2021 11:02 PM

Was scuttled as a breakwater in the mid 20's.  Been several preservation attempts over the years, but time is taking a toll.

Just under 4000 tons.

All according to wiki.

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Sunday, May 23, 2021 10:46 AM

Aha! 

  The last T.V. mention of her showed a very delapidated Monitor sitting on the Bottom. I don't think ANY amount of work would help now!

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Posted by goldhammer on Sunday, May 23, 2021 11:10 AM

Pretty much a collapsing shell now, said trying to keep it from falling in on itself.  Guns supposedly preserved and placed along side.  Remember seeing a segment on her a few years ago.

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, May 23, 2021 6:37 PM

gregbale

 

 
steve5

captmac82 , don't know about anyone else , but to me those pic's didn't come through . just a circle with a small stroke through it .

 

 

I saw them this morning...but they're 'gone' now.

 

Dang it.  I can't make those any more Public.  And Kalmbach has allowed them before.  GRRRR

Perhaps this Link will work:  https://photos.app.goo.gl/mmK4bPo2BJdaPQeN9

 

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Posted by Luvspinball on Sunday, May 23, 2021 7:25 PM

Nope.  Says we have to sign in to verify we are you.

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, May 23, 2021 7:38 PM

Has anybody ever modeled the Honda Point grounding of a Destroyer Squadron in 1923?

 

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Posted by warshipguy on Sunday, May 23, 2021 7:43 PM

How about DKM Scharnhorst and Gneisenau firing on and sinking HMS Glorious?

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Posted by Dodgy on Sunday, May 23, 2021 9:44 PM

HooYah Deep Sea

Dodgy,

You could always convert one of those Cutty Sarks into the subject of the Wadsworth poem; Wreck of the Hesperus. Also, I'd really like to see a model of the HMVS Cerberus.

 

That's a very interesting concept Brian old boy. I'm going to give that some serious thought! As for the Cerberus, I have a very small scale kit of her, that when built would probably be only two inches long. The original was sunk in fairly shallow water at Blackrock and filled with concrete. There has been lots of talk about raising and restoring her, but it would need someone with the bank balance of Bill Gates to do it.

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Posted by HooYah Deep Sea on Sunday, May 23, 2021 11:23 PM

An interesting note for all; Cerberus is the latinized form of the Greek word 'kerberos', said to mean 'spotted'. Therefore, the mythically vicious, gigantic, three-headed hound of Hades, who guarded gates of the underworld against the escape of the dead, is actually named "Spot".      (nice doggy, can I get you a milkbone?)

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, May 25, 2021 7:27 PM

Dodgy
but it would need someone with the bank balance of Bill Gates to do it.

Which may be not much pretty soon.

Cutty Sark would be interesting because of her composite construction. Therer was a great wreck down at Cape Horn for a long time, now gone.

 

Bill

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, May 25, 2021 7:30 PM

stikpusher

Has anybody ever modeled the Honda Point grounding of a Destroyer Squadron in 1923?

 

Almost. My model railroad included a sort of composite of Point Honda, with a couple of trestles. You can make one out a mile or so up the track to the west (railroad direction). But adding the destroyers just made it too big.

There's a part of one, maybe an anchor, at a fornlorn little station a ways westbound at a place called Surf.

 Don Stauffer served in the AF at Vandenberg.

Bill

 

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Posted by gregbale on Tuesday, May 25, 2021 8:14 PM

stikpusher
Has anybody ever modeled the Honda Point grounding of a Destroyer Squadron in 1923?

The Mirage 1/400 series of 'Four Stackers' would be perfect for that!

Greg

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Posted by goldhammer on Tuesday, May 25, 2021 8:55 PM

A couple more could be the Peter Iredale up by Astoria, and the New Carrisa off Coos Bay, both in Oregon.  Lot of photos of both of those.

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, May 25, 2021 11:17 PM

goldhammer

A couple more could be the Peter Iredale up by Astoria, and the New Carrisa off Coos Bay, both in Oregon.  Lot of photos of both of those.

 

That's a place (Astoria) where I would like to spend some time instead of just driving over the bridge.

A couple we are friends with- she runs the donor campaign at the Maritime Museum and he's a retired Coastie helicopter pilot.

 

Bill

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Posted by HooYah Deep Sea on Tuesday, May 25, 2021 11:28 PM

And while you're there you could check out the remains of the old Navy hydrofoil High Point, slowly deteriorating pierside. It would only take a million or so to fix up, you know, pocket change.

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, May 25, 2021 11:48 PM

Hmm don't know about that one. I will look it up.

On the subject of old navy wrecks, another client of mine for whom we designed a shipyard sign program bought the submersible drydock with roof that earlier took the "claw" down to Santa Catalina Island, sank itself, opened the roof for the Glomar Explorer to sail across on top of it and retrieve the grapple.

After this character won the bid for the barge, it was revealed that the carcass of the "Sea Shadow" was inside of it and it was to be taken to a bonded ship wrecker at some cost for monitored destruction.

Sadly, it was washed overboard enroute from Long Beach to San Francisco. 

 

Bill

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Posted by Dodgy on Wednesday, May 26, 2021 7:11 PM

HooYah Deep Sea

An interesting note for all; Cerberus is the latinized form of the Greek word 'kerberos', said to mean 'spotted'. Therefore, the mythically vicious, gigantic, three-headed hound of Hades, who guarded gates of the underworld against the escape of the dead, is actually named "Spot".      (nice doggy, can I get you a milkbone?)

 

You're a bloody classic mate!

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Posted by HooYah Deep Sea on Wednesday, May 26, 2021 8:03 PM

Thanks Dodgy, its one of my few talents; being the purveyer of odd information and a bit odd. Actually, when I first saw the title of this thread, I expected to see a picture of my ex-wife. It is the perfect description of my first marriage.

Bill, Yeah, the High Point is sitting alongside one of the piers near one of the fisheries (Pacific Coast Seafoods). An effort was started a while back to restore it at least to some extent and return it to Seattle as it was built by Boeing. I believe that the 'effort' died early.

Go to Google Maps and in the search box, type in 46.198648, -123.759150  

"Why do I do this? Because the money's good, the scenery changes and they let me use explosives, okay?"

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