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Trumpeter 1/700 USS Intrepid lower hull

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Trumpeter 1/700 USS Intrepid lower hull
Posted by jberger on Thursday, October 20, 2022 1:53 PM

BLUF:  Is there an easy way to convert the Trumpeter 1/700 USS Intrepid to a full-hull model?

Background:

Please excuse if someone has discussed this -- I couldn't find any posts...  See http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/7/t/138031.aspx

I wanted to have an example of an SCB-125 Essex and I prefer full-hull.  Like many of you, I'm annoyed, followed-by highly disappointed, in Trumpeter, first for not keeping an optional lower hull in their kits and second for not acknowledging it on the kit materials, for example on the box-art "Waterline" a la Tamiya and Hasegawa.  Has anyone drafted a lower hull for Shapeways to print out?

There is the Dragon USS Antietam, but the deck isn't the same angle, and I'm unsure if the SCB-27x modifications were made:  armor, hull blisters, hurricane bow, sponsons, elevators, etc.  This is why I don't think I'm up to the challenge of using another short-hull kit's lower hull.

The David Doyle "Legends of Warfare - Naval - USS Lexington (CV/CVA-16)"  and "...USS Intrepid.." are great!

My other main reason for asking is that I'm in the process of visiting all the carrier museums, and I like to have a model of the centerpieces of them.  (USS Yorktown, USS Midway, USS Intrepid in NYC...)

(warning) RANT:  So the idiots in the War Dept gave the populace only 6 months to come up with the funds to save the Big E (CV-6) after having her laid up in mothballs for how many years???  Then sold her for scrap for a pittance compared to what they were asking?  Then did something similar with JFK, so now there is no Forrestal(-plus)-class museum, and never will be another carrier museum because the reactors can't be sufficiently prevented from radiating visitors even with all that steel in the lower decks and bulkheads??  So the new Big E (CVN-65) will instead cost $1.5B to scrap -- and more likely $4.5B given the AC (after-covid) pricing increases???...  You can't make this stuff up...

My eyes are bigger than I can build my stash...

 

Too many models, too little time...

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Posted by ddp59 on Thursday, October 20, 2022 7:10 PM

you should be able to use a short-hull kit's lower hull as all the same length just the width might be different from Frame 39 to Frame 195 as depends if Antietam's hull was widen to 101'.

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Posted by jberger on Wednesday, October 26, 2022 7:35 PM

Thanks ddp59 Smile   [Just curious: are you referring to DD-59 USS Porter?]

I'll keep that in mind; there are several versions of the Essex class by Trumpeter.  Though I'm not quite picky about some details, wouldn't the armor belt be noticeable?  [One of the reasons I like the full-hull is because I like to see the complete design to visually compare with other ships.]

I'm going to get one, anyway, though I may stash it for a while...  [Some of the kits we'd like to see seem to be gone for good.  For example, I really want to find the Dragon USS Pennsylvania 1944 1/700; should've bought it years ago when it was available.]

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Posted by ddp59 on Thursday, October 27, 2022 4:12 PM

i did not mention anything about DD-59 USS Porter.

the belt was either removed or was covered over when the blisters added during the 1950's upgrades.

can always kitbash the Arizona into the Pennsylvania like i'm doing in this link. http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=165105

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Thursday, October 27, 2022 4:50 PM

jberger
, wouldn't the armor belt be noticeable? [

Not much of an armor belt on the Essex class.  What there is--from memory--is flush to the outside plating.

Most of the protective plates went around the magazines.

Now, I'm not remembering if they had 4 or 6 compartments along the hull for torpedo protection--those were a mix of void and tank spaces.

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Posted by ddp59 on Thursday, October 27, 2022 7:54 PM

CapnMac82, 1960 Essex BOGP shows from frame 58 to 166 as does 1965 Lexington & 1968 Wasp but not 1958 Antietam even tho it has an angled deck.

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Posted by jberger on Friday, October 28, 2022 1:56 PM

ddp59, that's quite the Battleship Row project!  Looks great!  To be honest, a bit above my abilities...

I trust you're all recovered from your injuries and are back to full speed ahead?  Smile

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Posted by ddp59 on Friday, October 28, 2022 4:09 PM

not yet as still go to a nursing clinic on Sundays to have to lower legs looked at, dead skin removed were possible, any open wounds/blisters dealt with then tubee grips slipped over the lower legs from just below the knees to the ankles. found out this past March i have Lymph edema in the legs most likely caused by corrective surgery done on the legs when i was about 10yrs old & i am now in my early 60's. haven't worked on a model since early summer & that is a 1/429 scale Arizona hull that i am correcting for a member on this site.

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