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  • Member since
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  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
A recommendation for Model Shipbuilders
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Tuesday, April 4, 2023 9:41 AM

Hello;

       Listen, I was just thinking. Suppose you don't want to do 1/200 scale and wanted something different? Well, if you are into scratch building, here's a suggestion for you. Try the RailRoad Scales. They are H.O. or 1/87 , 1/160 or " N" and Of course a new player for smaller ships, there's always "Z" scale, Even if you are NOT into scratch Building ,But! if your thing is mods to large salvaged hulls. Do your own design on an existing hull.

      For instance, The  Tamiya Big"E". Here's a Carrier that has seen more iterations in her career than many other ships of the type. Want a large Cruise Ship Model? Without the deck support structures and many outboard overhangs the hull is perfect for a Mega Liner! I have used two, converting them to one-a Mega Tanker, and Two as a Hospital Ship and floating Generation Station for emergency post disaster assistance through a port.

        I even took a S.S. United States and converted it to a very believable  Postwar Aircraft Carrier. I have even scratched (Using the Revell tanker kit) a believable Light Carrier from W.W.2 .. So why not use carrier models for something other than what they were built for? I have many times bought ship models I really didn't need or want just for the convertability or the hardware.

         I have written here in the past,  that when a child, I used to clean a fairly well known fountain at a "Service Station" in my neighborhood in Palm Beach, Florida.  My pay? Free Coney with Chili and Cheese with Fries, beforehand, and all the ship and car models I found by the drains and the money tossed in. I would take the ships and if I could salvage to somewhat original state of useage i.e. A Cruiser remained a Cruiser and so on. So Today that means scratchbuilding, what I want using a produced but Glue-Bomb ship hull already there!

        Remember the Hull is the biggest part! Once you have that, do as you wish. Within certain types, your imagination is the rule for what you wish to build. I have taken the old Lindberg Minesweeper and converted it to many types of small ships. It makes a great core as does the "E" and many others. Try it , I believe you'll be pleasantly surprised!

       Oh, a really surprising two that convert to unique vessels is Lindberg's U.S.S.Hornet or other name Carrier, with the Hangar deck. And, the Pyro model of the Robt.E.Lee/Natchez riverboat. This converts to other scales and makes perfect FerryBoat base model of something else. Years ago while stationed in Bremerton,Wa. Naval Shipyard I took the Natchez as a base and in the Base Hobby Shop converted it to the "Kalakala" which was an Art deco design from the late thirties for some Expo. and a single ended streamlined Ferry in Puget Sound /Seattle operations.

 Small vessels are NOt exempt here. The Pyro Tuna Fisherman makes a nice base for an Ocean Capable yacht!, Research vessel, or Liveaboard Houseboat! As does the remnants of the good old Despatch number 9 from the Pyro model of the Standard Oil Tug. Keep tha old Optical Orb Mod . 1 ,searching and you'l open all types on oppurtunities for this twist on model Ship-Building

 

 

  • Member since
    December 2022
  • From: Canada
Posted by Tcoat on Tuesday, April 4, 2023 10:40 AM

I have the old Lindberg minesweeper that some day will be converted to the MV Rhea (an old US minsweeper) which I spent many weekends on as a Sea Cadet back in the early 70s.

http://yms299.org/archives/category/time-period/after-the-battle

 

 

It was a great little ship with quite the history. Not only did it receive 3 battle stars in the Pacific but it was one of the sweepers that cleared Tokoyo harbour before the Missouri entered for the peace signing. 

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Posted by MR TOM SCHRY on Tuesday, April 4, 2023 11:34 AM

Tcoat, this sounds like a great project that you've got planned.  I have this kit too but I bought it "used" so some of the pieces are missing.  I've always hoped that Round2 would reissue this kit again because they're going for "crazy" prices on eBay.  Good luck with this "special"project.

TJS 

TJS

  • Member since
    March 2003
  • From: Western North Carolina
Posted by Tojo72 on Tuesday, April 4, 2023 11:36 AM

Hats off to you TB but conversions and scratching is beyond me,I can barely handle a kit !!! Tongue Tied

Too bad you can post pics,it would be great to see some of that stuff you do.

  • Member since
    December 2022
  • From: Canada
Posted by Tcoat on Tuesday, April 4, 2023 11:45 AM

MR TOM SCHRY

Tcoat, this sounds like a great project that you've got planned.  I have this kit too but I bought it "used" so some of the pieces are missing.  I've always hoped that Round2 would reissue this kit again because they're going for "crazy" prices on eBay.  Good luck with this "special"project.

TJS 

 

What parts do you need? I will be demilitarizing and changing some other features so will probably have a bunch of spare parts.  

  • Member since
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Posted by MR TOM SCHRY on Tuesday, April 4, 2023 1:13 PM

Tcoat, thank you so much for the offer.  I'll do an inventory of the parts.

tjs

TJS

  • Member since
    December 2022
  • From: Canada
Posted by Tcoat on Tuesday, April 4, 2023 1:52 PM

MR TOM SCHRY

Tcoat, thank you so much for the offer.  I'll do an inventory of the parts.

tjs

 

Well I probably only need about 10% of the kit and the rest would just sit in a box for eternity so may as well have what you need from it. 

  • Member since
    February 2004
Posted by dhenning on Tuesday, April 4, 2023 5:42 PM

You want to use the hull of the Revell "Ocean Explorer" (former Calypso) for a YMS sweeper.   The original Calypso was converted from a YMS-so you would have a better hull shape to start with.

Here is a link to some photos of one that I did a few years ago:

The Ship Model Forum • View topic - YMS-347 in 1/125th (shipmodels.info)

My current project is making the USS Pueblo using the modified hull from the old Novo or Frog Shell Welder Coastal Tanker.  Sometimes these projects can be a overwhelming if you get too hung up in getting all of the details right.

Dave

 

  • Member since
    December 2022
  • From: Canada
Posted by Tcoat on Tuesday, April 4, 2023 7:23 PM

dhenning

You want to use the hull of the Revell "Ocean Explorer" (former Calypso) for a YMS sweeper.   The original Calypso was converted from a YMS-so you would have a better hull shape to start with.

Here is a link to some photos of one that I did a few years ago:

The Ship Model Forum • View topic - YMS-347 in 1/125th (shipmodels.info)

My current project is making the USS Pueblo using the modified hull from the old Novo or Frog Shell Welder Coastal Tanker.  Sometimes these projects can be a overwhelming if you get too hung up in getting all of the details right.

Dave

 

 

Yes we used to joke that we had the same ship as the Calypso! Unforunently finding one of those kits is near impossible and even though it would save me a pile of work cutting up the old Lindberg kit is a better bet. Now of course the second I lay the saw to the Lindberg Revell will flood the market with discounted Calypsos!

There are also several parts of the Lindberg that are actually closer to the Rhea than the Calypso since most of the superstructure on the Rhea was still origional but the Calpso was pretty much rebuilt from main the deck up. The ideal situation would be bits and pieces from both kits really.

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    October 2019
  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Wednesday, April 5, 2023 9:44 AM

Point!

    This is very true.You need to take it lightly unless you feel comfortable in doing a conversion in this scale. My first version had beautiful detail, But,  I made a bad mistake I didn't find till later! The Bulkhead for the aft end of the lower level of the foredeck!( Although beautifully decked out with detail, It was a scale one and a half feet too short in heighth). So back to the bench

 It was refreshing thought though. I too, can still make silly mistakes and laugh about them afterwards. Although short enough not to be useable, The detailing showed that I could do it in this scale with aplomb! She's not finished , but she has turned into a Test vessel for detailing ideas!

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