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Revell U-47 Gunther Prien

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Revell U-47 Gunther Prien
Posted by albert_sy2 on Sunday, May 1, 2005 6:50 AM
Has anyone made this model? More importantly, what did you do with the interior? I am trying to make mine better by:

- adding chest rests to the 8.8cm gun and the flak gun
- adding bunks to the torpedo room (crew accomodation)
- adding CPO and CO accomodations aft of the torpedo room
- splitting the battery and putting the parts where they should be: below the officer accomodations and aft PO accomodations
- maybe add in the heads and the water tanks, etc ???

I've already finished the guns and have cut the decks to extend the torpedo room.

Any comments or helpful advice? Cool [8D]
Groovy baby
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Posted by ddp59 on Sunday, May 1, 2005 1:20 PM
the chest rests on the 8.8cm gun, are you talking about the c shape supports that goes onto your shoulders like on the 20 & possibly 40mm aa guns??
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Posted by albert_sy2 on Sunday, May 1, 2005 7:29 PM
The AA gun chest rests are vertical and do go up to your shoulders, but the 8.8cm gun chest rests are horizontal and go to either side of your torso. There are four of them around the gun.
Groovy baby
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Posted by Big Jake on Sunday, May 1, 2005 9:18 PM
Decent kit, but no way near true to scale, but who's splitting hairs.

Jake

 

 

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Posted by jtilley on Monday, May 2, 2005 1:26 AM
According to the bible on the subject, Thomas Graham's Remembering Revell Model Kits, this kit originally appeared in 1975 - a rough time for Revell. The company had almost given up producing serious scale models. This one, as I remember, was pretty crude. It sounds like Albert_sy2 is virtually re-doing the interior - for good reason.

The kit has an interesting and checkered history. I especially remember an ad for it that ran in several of the hobby magazines at the time. The model comes with a stand incorporating a nameplate that's shaped like a torpedo. (The nameplate is about a third as long as the sub.) For this ad some artist had done a painting of the actual U-boat charging, submerged, through the North Atlantic - with a gigantic torpedo hanging underneath. Apparently he'd worked from a photo of the completed model, and hadn't realized he was looking at a decoration rather than a replica of an actual piece of U-boat. And nobody at Revell caught it. John Steel, Jack Leynwood, and the other artists of Revell's golden age must have turned in their graves.

The kit made news a couple of years later when Revell reissued it under the name "U-505." U-505, of course, is the one that was captured by Admiral Gallery's task force and is now on exhibit at the Museum of Science and Industry in Chicago. Revell was trying to capitalize on the fame of that boat. The only problem was that the kit represented a Type VII U-boat, and U-505 is a Type IX. (I suspect the people running Revell at that time - the ones who didn't notice the giant torpedo - genuinely didn't know there was a difference.) The scheme backfired spectacularly: when the museum started selling the kit in its gift shop, so many customers raised Censored [censored] that the museum lodged a complaint. Revell took the "U-505" kit off the market. That's the only instance I know of in which a falsely-advertised ship model kit has been discontinued due to public pressure. (Now, if the folks who run the Cutty Sark had risen up in protest against the Revell "Thermopylae"....Or the descendants of Charles Darwin had gotten a whiff of Revell's alleged "H.M.S. Beagle"....Well, fantasies are good for the soul.)

The new Revell 1/72 Type VII U-boat provides vivid evidence that the company - at least in its German branch - has risen from the ashes of those days. By the way - I took a look at the Revell Germany website yesterday. Among the new releases scheduled for this year is a box of 1/72 scale Kriegsmarine figures, specially designed for use on the E-boat and U-boat kits. They'll presumably be cast in soft plastic, but a whole lot cheaper than the metal and resin crewmen now available.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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Posted by albert_sy2 on Monday, May 2, 2005 8:33 AM
Wow! You sure know your Revell kits. Me, I was just playing Silent Hunter II and on a whim bought the kit at my local hobby store, not knowing I was in for some major modifications.

I am actually quite thankful that the kit is so bad. Haha. Yeah, right. I've learned so much from my research about U-47, and u-boats in general. And of course, by experience learning more about our hobby. This is the first time I will be doing this kind of work. Usually my modern fighter planes are of better newer molds and usually go together more or less with not much fuss.

Well what can I say but you get what you pay for. Paid US$23 for mine; it was on sale. The Revell 1:72 Type VII is just too expensive for me for now (US$86). I have a wife, a daughter, and another on the way!

Ironically, I am using the Silent Hunter II plans for my u-boat! Some of my other information tells me the plans are close enough accurate to be useful.

http://www.u47.org/english/u47_boa.asp?part=5

Groovy baby
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Posted by MBT70 on Monday, May 2, 2005 2:16 PM
Speaking of U-47 ... is there a kit of the Royal Oak out there anywhere?
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Posted by jtilley on Monday, May 2, 2005 10:51 PM
There may well be a resin Royal Oak out there somewhere; the place to look would be Pacific Front Hobbies. On the plastic front, a long time ago Frog released a kit for one of her sister ships, H.M.S. Revenge, on 1/500 scale. It's turned up under various other labels (Novo, for example) as the old Frog molds have moved around. It's a fifties or early sixties kit, and quite basic. I'm not familiar with the differences between the R-class battleships, but I suspect if one wanted to bring that old kit up to 21st-century standards the additional work to convert it to the Royal Oak would be minimal.

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Posted by dougie47 on Tuesday, May 3, 2005 8:21 AM
Here is a model of the Royal Oak on the net -

http://www.steelnavy.com/WSWRoyalOak.htm

Cheers,

Dougie
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Posted by jtilley on Friday, May 6, 2005 6:37 AM
I'm "replying" to this topic again in order to get the thread moved to p. 1 of the Forum. The subject has come up again in another thread.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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Posted by ABARNE on Saturday, May 7, 2005 2:08 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by albert_sy2

Has anyone made this model? More importantly, what did you do with the interior?


I built one about twenty yeas ago. Not the most detailed thing in thing in the world, but made an attractive diplay on the bookshelf. As far as the interior, I didn't waste my time with it and displayed it starboard side out.

On the other hand if you are into research and scratch-building, here's some inspiration.

[image]http://www.steelnavy.com/_borders/sub04.jpg[/image]

http://www.steelnavy.com/riddle2.htm


Andy
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Posted by albert_sy2 on Saturday, May 7, 2005 2:37 AM
That is some really great scratch-building. I'll do my best with what I have, though I doubt I could do it as well as those!

The picture below is what I'm aiming for... doesn't look so hard, does it? Haha! Actually, this picture is a museum model.

Update: I've finished the guns and torpedoes. Started painting the inside of the hull. Scratchbuilt a few bulkheads to fit in more compartments.

Groovy baby
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