(Pics) USSR Admiral Kuznetzov 1:350

Model Maniac

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(Pics) USSR Admiral Kuznetzov 1:350

Posted by Model Maniac on Monday, May 16, 2005 4:21 AM

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- Revell's Fw 190 D-9 (late) 1:32 by Jakkraphad
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- Trumpeter's USSR Admiral Kuznetzov Aircraft Carrier 1:350 by Niphon

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 16, 2005 10:30 AM

Must be a gigantic kit. Didn't they sell this boat to the Indians?

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kaleu

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Posted by kaleu on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 12:24 AM

Thanks for the pictures. I was in the USN stationed on the Black Sea coast of Turkey when the Soviets were conducting sea trials on this ship. Larry, I think they sold the second ship (the Varyag) to the Indians. IIRC, it was damaged by fire.

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 17, 2005 12:10 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by kaleu

Larry, I think they sold the second ship (the Varyag) to the Indians. IIRC, it was damaged by fire.

I just did some research, and they tried to sell the ship, but no one wanted it, so they sold her to a Chinese company to use as a floating casino/curio. That was as of about four years ago. The Chinese company promised not to use the ship for military purposes, and the Ukrainians stripped it of all military hardware whatsover. Apparently she circled around in the Black Sea for well over a year because the Turks refused to let her sail out of the Dardanelles to deliver to the Chinese. Tongue [:P]

While superficially similar to American carriers, they are apparently purely defensive, acting as air superiority ships without an offensive strike capability. They are apparently meant to defend SSBN bastions.

Rather odd. Couldn't they do that, better, from land bases? Was their construction purely a prestige thing?

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kaleu

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Posted by kaleu on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 6:16 PM

Larry, when I was in the Navy and on the Black Sea, we always thought part of the reason for building the carriers was a prestige thing. We have nuclear powered carries and they have the Kiev and Moskva classes. Not much in bragging rights for the Soviets. They were primarily built to protect the Boomers but also to project Soviet Naval powere into areas where it hadn't previously been seen. These carries were more along the lines of British and French carriers than USN carriers. I have some russian newspaper clippings of the first Soviet pilot to take off and land from the Tbilisi (Kuznetsov) and someday hope to build a kit of his SU-27. BTW, does anybody know where I can get a kit of the Moskva class? I built one while in the service but can't remember who makes it.

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archelon

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Posted by archelon on Thursday, May 26, 2005 2:05 PM

I am really looking forward to building the Admiral Kuznetsov... as soon as I complete my Sovremenny, that is.

With Trumpeter tossing these two Russian gems out, is it too much to ask them for a Slava or perhaps a larger scale Kirov?

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Posted by Model Maniac on Thursday, May 26, 2005 9:12 PM

archelon, so you're building Sovremenny in 1:350 scale?. I'll have one built later.
But for Sovremenny in 1:200 scale, I have both types built by the same modeler
(Mr. Niphon) who built this Kuznetzov :

More pics available at http://www.falconbbs.com/model22a.htm

Apart from the Slava and larger scale Kirov, I'd like to ask them to release
Minsk and Kiev Aircraft Carriers in 1:350 scale too (they have only 1:550)

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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Thursday, May 26, 2005 9:53 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by Larry_Dunn

Must be a gigantic kit. Didn't they sell this boat to the Indians?

No. They are selling the Admiral Gorshkov to the Indians. It is currently being modernized by the Russians according to Indian demands and will be given to us them in 2008 I believe.

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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Thursday, May 26, 2005 9:53 PM

And I am pretty sure the Kuznetsov is still in sevrice with the Russian navy.

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Posted by archelon on Friday, May 27, 2005 11:45 AM

I'm building the 1/200th with white ensign PE and the like, model maniac. IMO, the designs of Russian ships are so heavily laden with weapons and electronics that the just beg to be modeled in the biggest scale possible.

Excellent pics on the buildups. I'm not the most prolific modeler, and I've only begun work on the superstructure, so it might be a while before I have something to show for it.

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Tankmaster7

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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Friday, May 27, 2005 12:36 PM

1/200? What kit?

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Mikeym_us

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Saturday, May 28, 2005 10:00 PM

the 1/200 scale Sovremenny. And I also have this kit too and I'm somewhat tinkering with it and also completed the helicopter that came with it.

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15 http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Duke Maddog

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Posted by Duke Maddog on Saturday, May 28, 2005 10:47 PM

Beautiful job on that 1/350 scale Kuznetsov! Very well done! Model Maniac, please be dure to pass on my admiration to the builder.

Yes, the Admiral Kuznetsov is still in service with the Russian Navy. I built her and Varyag in 1/700 scale, as well as two Kiev class ships, three Kirov class ships, several Sovremennyy's, a couple Udaloys, and four Krivaks. I also have , and two Moskva class ships which are in 1/600 scale.

Here's my Russian carriers:

Two of my three Kirov class battlecruisers:

and one of my Moskva class:

Personally, I'd love to see a Slava class ship, particularly in 1/700 scale. That would more or less complete my modern Russian navy.

Kaleu, the original Moskva was released by Aurora way back in the late seventies. Back in the eighties I believe, some other company (Monogram?) re-released it. That is when I got two. One I made Moskva, the other Leningrad, her sister. My Leningrad is still in the process of being updated.

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Mikeym_us

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Sunday, May 29, 2005 9:43 AM

duke Italieri also did the Kuznetzov in 1/720 scale (which I have) and I also have the Kiev in 1/700 scale from Aeoshima. BTW Duke I'm wondering if you built an Udaloy Mk2 version yet (which is the upgraded Udaloy).

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15 http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Posted by Tankmaster7 on Sunday, May 29, 2005 9:46 AM

What i want to see is a Kara class. Does anyone make a Kara class missile cruiser in 1/700 or 1/350? (or larger)

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Mikeym_us

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Sunday, May 29, 2005 10:18 AM

I think SkyWave does I'm not sure?

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15 http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Duke Maddog

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Posted by Duke Maddog on Sunday, May 29, 2005 10:35 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mikeym_us

duke Italieri also did the Kuznetzov in 1/720 scale (which I have) and I also have the Kiev in 1/700 scale from Aeoshima. BTW Duke I'm wondering if you built an Udaloy Mk2 version yet (which is the upgraded Udaloy).

Mike, I haven't. Is there a kit out there of one? I don't think I have the skills to scratchbuild one but maybe a kitbash would happen if I had enough info. Sounds like it would be a cool ship to have.

QUOTE: Originally posted by Tankmaster7

What i want to see is a Kara class. Does anyone make a Kara class missile cruiser in 1/700 or 1/350? (or larger)

I'd love to see a Kara too, as well as a Kashin and Kildin too. I think the only kitsof those you'll find will be resin if they are made. I personally have never seen a kit of the Kara myself. Maybe someday.

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Posted by therriman on Sunday, May 29, 2005 10:48 AM

That's a great job MM. The weathering looks just about right. Used, not over done.

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Mikeym_us

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Sunday, May 29, 2005 6:52 PM

no Duke there is no kit of the Udaloy Mk2 but a website I found for the Udaloy meantioned the Mk2 refit which meantions the difference in weapons and a few cosmetic changes plus the page shows the deck coloration of the Udaloy.

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15 http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Posted by Model Maniac on Monday, May 30, 2005 4:21 AM

Many thanks for your kind words, archelon, Duke and therriman! They're very
encouraging!

archelon, you're building 1/200 Sovremenny with white ensign PE?. That's gonna be great. My 1/200 Sovre's were built OOB only, like most other kits on my site.

Duke, you have an enviable array of Russian fleets! Wink [;)]

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Monday, May 30, 2005 8:44 AM

Duke the main guns of the Udaloy Mk2 are 4 130mm/70 AK130 in 2 twin mounts.
Surface to Surface Missiles are the SS-N-22 Sunburn in 2 Quad mountings.
ASW is 2x RPK-2 Viyoga/SS-N-15 Starfish launchers.
CIWS is 2x CADS-N-1(Kashtan) Each with twin 30mm gatling typeguns and SA-N-11 missiles.

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15 http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Duke Maddog

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Posted by Duke Maddog on Monday, May 30, 2005 10:28 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mikeym_us

Duke the main guns of the Udaloy Mk2 are 4 130mm/70 AK130 in 2 twin mounts.
Surface to Surface Missiles are the SS-N-22 Sunburn in 2 Quad mountings.
ASW is 2x RPK-2 Viyoga/SS-N-15 Starfish launchers.
CIWS is 2x CADS-N-1(Kashtan) Each with twin 30mm gatling typeguns and SA-N-11 missiles.

Sweet! Thanks Mikey, this info is helpful. Do ytou have a link to that site that shows the Udaloy II? I'd love to try and kitbash one to add to my Russian Navy.

Thank you Model Maniac, I'm glad you like my fleet. I'll trry to get more pics of some of my other ships a little later.

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Mikeym_us

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Monday, May 30, 2005 6:41 PM

does Skywave still carry the Soviet Navy weapon set? if they do you can get that and another Udaloy shouldn't be too hard to update it.

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15 http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Duke Maddog

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Posted by Duke Maddog on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 11:31 AM

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mikeym_us

does Skywave still carry the Soviet Navy weapon set? if they do you can get that and another Udaloy shouldn't be too hard to update it.

I believe they do, and I believe I have it as well. I was thinking the same thing about getting one and updating it with the weapon set. Now to get another Udaloy so I can get started.

Great minds think alike! Cool [8D]

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Mikeym_us

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Tuesday, May 31, 2005 8:28 PM

I have another Udaloy but i think its 1/600 scale but its from some chinese company that I can't think of but it has extra parts probably for a Sovremenny you know like the twin barrel AK 130's and the other weapons I meantioned. I was planning on doing a Udaloy II anyways. But I also have a 1/350 scale Sovremenny from Mars. But I also plan on doing my Kiev Aircraft carrier and will have some Yak-36's and KA-27's left over from a seperate aircraft set if you want them.

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15 http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Duke Maddog

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Posted by Duke Maddog on Wednesday, June 1, 2005 9:31 AM

Thanks Mikey, I would love them! That would be awesomoe. E-mail me and we'll work out the details.

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Mikeym_us

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Wednesday, June 1, 2005 2:23 PM

I'll let you know. But first I'll have to see how many of the YAK's i'll need for the Minsk first probably it will be 6 or 8 and then 2 of the KA-25 Helix's (I was wrong they weren't KA-27 Hormone's) so that will probably leave 16 Yak-36's and 6 Ka-25's out of 24 Yaks and 8 KA-25's. So will you try to add some more airframes to the Kuznetzov and the Varyag. And when I'm done with the Minsk i'll definitely try to build the Kursk. BTW have you tried to tackle the 1/200 scale Sovremenny yet because I have one and the KA-27 Hormone that they include in the kit is a real treat consisting of over 8 clear parts and I have my KA-27 done and it looks reasonable. Now only if I can do that good with the 1/350 scale SH-3's that came with the Nimitz kit I got last year.

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15 http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Duke Maddog

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Posted by Duke Maddog on Thursday, June 2, 2005 9:21 AM

No problem mikey, I can wait. Yeah, I was thinking of using the extras to add to Kuznetsov and Varyag. What I'd really love to do is get a model of the Kiev class (Mod) and add that to my collection. I saw a Trumpeter(?) kit that claimed to have decals for three ships of the Kiev class, I wonder if there are extra parts to let you build a Modified Kiev....

Is the Kursk you're going to build the Submarine? I have an Oscar class sub called the Kursk that I have yet to build. It's a waterline kit so there's not much to it.

As for the 1/200 scale Sovremennyy, I haven't tried that one. I doubt I will either since I'm very hard pressed for space. The helo on that bad boy does sound like fun though!

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Mikeym_us

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Thursday, June 2, 2005 9:30 AM

the Kursk I have is the Tamiya 1/700 scale Oscar Class but of course I would love to get my hands on the 1/350 scale Kursk from Zveda. I heard the aircraft for that Kiev are molded in clear plastic ( same as Tamiya when it introduced the retooled Shinano) and it has a full hull and waterline version I would love to get my hands on it then I can have a Kiev to match my Minsk since they are both the same class. (interesting the russian navy named their carriers after war hero's like we do but also name them after cities like we do with LA class Attack subs.) I forget did Trumpeter make a 1/350 scale Kiev?

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15 http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Posted by archelon on Thursday, June 2, 2005 12:06 PM

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mikeym_us

interesting the russian navy named their carriers after war hero's like we do but also name them after cities like we do with LA class Attack subs.) I forget did Trumpeter make a 1/350 scale Kiev?

All Soviets carriers started out being after cities, but as the USSR disintegrated the non-russian names got discarded; Baku became the Admiral Gorshkov and Tblisi became Admiral Kuznetsov.

Unfortunately, there's no Kiev available in 1/350 to the best of my knowledge. It would make a great subject, however.

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