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Tugboat for a diorama
Posted by daveinthehat on Monday, April 16, 2007 11:36 PM

I finished the first of 3 tugboats that I'm building for an HO scale diorama.

I took pictures while I was building it. I'm about halfway through the second tug.

http://public.fotki.com/DaveInTheHat/davetown/project-tugboat/

 

 

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Posted by RedCorvette on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 1:19 AM

Wow.  Great looking little tug!

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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 2:51 AM
Wow that tugboat would steal some limelight out from the centerpiece. Terrific job!
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Posted by Tug Guy on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 7:22 AM

Dave what kit did you use for this terrific looking model?

 

Don

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Posted by daveinthehat on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 9:24 AM

Don, Its a Lindberg kit. I bought it half started on ebay. I'm building another one thats the same kit. The third one will be a diesel tug, also by Lindberg.

 

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Posted by Tug Guy on Tuesday, April 17, 2007 9:46 AM

Oh the Hercules!  I am glad it got a good home I remember seeing it on ebay now.

 

Don

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Posted by EPinniger on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 5:57 AM
Interesting! I never realised that Lindberg actually produced two different models of tugs. I recently bought the "Diesel Tug" also at a bargain price on eBay. I was surprised at how large the scale was compared to the Revell 1/100ish tug I built a few months ago (I'll try and post some photos of this soon). The box gives a scale of 1/82, but according to my calculations it's more like 1/55-1/60. What size/scale is the one you are currently building? I assume it's a smaller scale (is this one of the kits which was included in Lindberg's "Waterfront Four" box set?) Your tugboat model looks great BTW! The painting + weathering is very convincing.
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Posted by rokket on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 6:15 AM

Fan-bloody-tastic! Went to your site, beautiful pix, really wel done build.

The pix don't have any info with them, what's your secret to the awesome weathered and peeling paint on the deckhouse?

Well done!Wow!! [wow]

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Posted by daveinthehat on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 6:38 AM
The scale is questionable. The haul measures about 85 feet in HO scale. The cabin doors measure 5 1/2 feet. The men that come in the kit are about 8' tall. Something is out of wack, but it looks ok. I'm not sure what the 'waterfront four' is. I got this kit half started on ebay.
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Posted by Tug Guy on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 6:39 AM

I changed out the railing stanchions and railings for some brass ones that looked to me more in scale. I haven't completley finished it yet but it is pretty well painted. I don't have it weathered though and honestly I doubt I could weather it to look anything like Daves. I will try to post some pictures in the next few days. The kit is based on a tug 85 ft long.

There also was a Carol Ann tug by lindburgh, motorized that I saw on  ebay.

 

 Don

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Posted by Tug Guy on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 6:52 AM

I made up a mold for new doors than what was in the kit. The "Four" was a River towboat, fireboat, tugboat and I believe a fishing boat. Hard to find now on E Bay.

Don

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Posted by daveinthehat on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 6:53 AM

I distressed the plastic with rough sand paper from a floor sander, a stiff wire brush, and a sawblade that I dragged sideways on the plastic. I primed the plastic with Floquil primer. Then brush painted it with Dr. Ben's Aged Driftwood. A quick wash with a mixture of ink and alcohol. I sprayed the upper and lower areas of the cabin with Floquil box car red. Then lightly dry brushed Folk Art barn red.

I pretty much just kinda winged it. I haven't done much with making plastic look like wood before. 

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Posted by CG Bob on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 9:53 AM
Lindberg aso released that steam tug as a USCG tug a couple of times.  The Waterfront 4 were approximately 1:160 to 1:200 scale - depending on the boat.  The tug and fireboat were about 1:160 (N scale); the towboat and fishing boat were scaled a little smaller.
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Posted by jtilley on Wednesday, April 18, 2007 11:55 AM

The Lindberg "Diesel Tug" is a reissue of an extremely old, but basically sound, Pyro kit.  That one, in turn, was a copy of a Model Shipways solid-hull wood kit.  The kit in fact represents the tug Dispatch No. 9.  MS recently re-released it; it's available through the Model Expo website (www.modelexpoonline.com). 

Pyro, in the very early fifties, ripped off several kit designs from Model Shipways (Roger B. Taney, Harriet Lane, Dispatch No. 9, and a couple of fishing boats) and Marine Models (Gertrude L. Thebaud).  Twenty-five years later the two gentlemen who ran Model Shipways were still referring to Pyro as "Pirate Plastics."

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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Posted by daveinthehat on Friday, April 20, 2007 1:04 PM

Progress on tugboat number 2

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, April 20, 2007 2:40 PM

Make sure you post your completed centerpiece and dio.

 

even the tugboats make me salivating. Gorgeous. Wanna see some heavy rust on the tugs Yeah!! [yeah]

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Posted by CG Bob on Monday, April 23, 2007 12:37 PM

Here's a picture of the waterfront four..

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Posted by daveinthehat on Monday, April 23, 2007 1:24 PM

Thanks Bob. I'll have to look out for that one. I'm almost finished my second tug. Probably by the time I get finished with the third one I won't want to build anymore for a while.

Here's about where I am so far.

 

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Posted by Umi_Ryuzuki on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 11:48 AM

These first two look great.

 How about you do a "how to weather" tutorial when you start the third tug boat.

 Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

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Posted by daveinthehat on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 2:44 PM

Maybe this will help.

Rust and dirt:

http://journals.fotki.com/DaveInTheHat/

Pictures while I took while I was building:

http://public.fotki.com/DaveInTheHat/davetown/project-tugboat/

http://public.fotki.com/DaveInTheHat/davetown/tugboat-project-no-2/ 

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Posted by Tug Guy on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 4:06 PM

Hi Dave,

How do you know when you have distressed a model wrong? You used a few different items to create your distressed look. What I am afraid of is if I tried that I would end up ruining the kit. Once you go too far it is too late.

Don

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Posted by daveinthehat on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 5:36 PM

Thats a good question. I never thought about doing it wrong. I use a lot of 'eyeball engineering' when I do things. If I had gone too far when I was distressing the plastic and made a hole I would have put a patch over it and distressed that less then the area around it. The plastic on this kit is real thick, so there wasn't much chance of me scraping through it. I did think about using a Dremel tool and grinding a section of the haul out and replacing it with wood to make it look even more aged.

I can't really give you a solid answer. If you haven't done it before I would say just get a cheap kit or some scrap and give it a try till you get the feel of it. It isn't difficult and the idea is to make it look screwed up anyway. 

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Posted by rcboater on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 9:51 PM

 

IIRC,  The Despatch No.9 was an ex- US Army 86 foot long steel hulled tug-- quite a number were built during WW2, a a number ended up in other's hands later on.   This makes the model about 1/77 scale or so....

Despatch No.9 was a Standard Oil Company tug, based in the San Fran area.  Somewhere along the way, Lindberg lost the association of the name with the model, but the stack still comes with the large "S" molded on.

As JTilley pointed out, the Diesel tug is the old Pyro mold.  The other tug you're building is smaller, about 10 inches LOA compared to the Diesle tug's 13.5 inches.  I think this was a Lindberg original-- I don't recall ever seeing it in anyone else's box.  In some of the old versions, it was sold as a motorized kit.  This little tug seems to be a generic harbor tug-- I don't know of any specific prototype it was modeled after.

I always found it ironic that Lindberg released the little tug in a box as "Coast Guard tug", when the Diesel tug was the one  that was legitmately in the USCG.  I built my Diesel tug as the USCGC Messenger-- she was stationed at the USCG Yard in Curtis Bay MD.   (There's a picture of Messenger in Dr Scheina's USCG Cutters and Craft book.)    I could find no evidence a tug like the little one was ever a USCG vessel.

I agree with your comments about the thick plastic.  When I built my tug as an RC model, I replaced some of the heavy palstic parts (decks, cabin parts) with much thinner sheet plastic, to reduce topside weight and improve stability. 

In any case, your work looks terrific. 

 -Bill

Webmaster, Marine Modelers Club of New England

www.marinemodelers.org

 

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Posted by daveinthehat on Tuesday, April 24, 2007 10:47 PM
I'm not trying to duplicate any particular tug. I have been looking at a lot of the pictures of the tugboat graveyards around Shooter's Island and Rossville, NY. So that has been a big part of my inspiration. The response I've gotten from my models has been interesting. A lot of things that I didn't know about.

I grew up near Curtis Bay. I remember seeing a couple of Coast Guard tugs there. As I remember one was quiet a bit larger than most of the tugs around the bay. Right near the Coast Guard Station there were several large wood ships, schooners I would guess, that were run a ground and pretty much stripped. Now they are rotted or burnt to the water line. I checked on Google Earth and they are still visible.

Thanks for the info.
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Posted by EPinniger on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 8:24 AM

 rcboater wrote:
IIRC,  The Despatch No.9 was an ex- US Army 86 foot long steel hulled tug-- quite a number were built during WW2, a a number ended up in other's hands later on.   This makes the model about 1/77 scale or so....

 

Interesting! I might try building my kit as a WW2 tug.

I found some more information on the Despatch 9 on the Model Expo page for the Model Shipways wooden kit ([url=http://www.modelexpo-online.com/cgi-bin/sgin0101.exe?FNM=00&T1=MS2011&UID=2007042107472980&UREQA=1&TRAN85=N&GENP=]link[/url). According to this, "There are some differences between the Army tug design and the Despatch, changes required by the owner no doubt. Primarily, the Despatch has a different towing winch and capstan, and some minor differences in the deck house compartments. The Army version also has railings on the pilot house top and two machine guns, and there is a lifeboat carried on the upper deck."

Sounds like a fairly straightforward conversion. I'm guessing the machine guns would have been water-cooled .50 cals.
Not sure what paint scheme would have been used on the Army tugs, but I assume overall grey.

Do you have any more information on the USCG Messenger? This sounds like another interesting conversion, as I'm currently building the Lindberg USCG patrol boat (95' Cape-class cutter) in almost the same scale. 

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Posted by daveinthehat on Wednesday, April 25, 2007 12:22 PM

Tug #2 is finished until I get it mounted on the base. Then I'll add a few more details like rope, chain and junk.

More pictures: http://public.fotki.com/DaveInTheHat/davetown/tugboat-project-no-2/ 

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Posted by daveinthehat on Wednesday, May 2, 2007 12:22 PM
Here's where I am on tugboat #3. More pictures on my Fotki page: http://public.fotki.com/DaveInTheHat/davetown/tugboat-project-no-3/
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Posted by Tug Guy on Wednesday, May 2, 2007 12:32 PM

Hi Dave,

I found a PE railing set for HO scale tugs if you are interested? They are about $11.00 a set.

Don

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Posted by daveinthehat on Wednesday, May 2, 2007 11:37 PM
Thanks. I think the railings I have or ok. I'll keep that in mind if I do another tug.
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Posted by daveinthehat on Thursday, May 3, 2007 11:39 AM
I got almost everything put together. I still need to do some details and add some kind of molding around the top of the windows in the wheel house. There's detail painting, some color and a few washes of black and rust here and there.
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