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Covering aircraft cockpit
Posted by wpwar11 on Saturday, April 11, 2020 10:38 PM

Hello All,

Like most new modelers I watch tons of full build videos.  I build mostly aircraft and like assembling canopies in an open position.  The modelers in these videos show the canopy glued in place (I assume its glued) as it covers the cockpit.  This makes for an easy mask over the cockpit instead of using tape.  Then in the final reveal the canopy is open.  So here’s the question.  Is this just magic of video and editing?  How do you glue the canopy to paint the fuselage and then not break it to open?  Won’t it leave messy glue residue?  You would have to seal the canopy so no paint gets inside.  Seams to me things can go terribly wrong trying to get it off.

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Posted by damouav on Saturday, April 11, 2020 11:20 PM

Mask the canopy closed (ensure that the entire canopy itself is masked), paint then remove canopy.

Job done. I display most of my builds open, and this process I use.

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, April 11, 2020 11:45 PM

Tack glue the masked canopy hood in place for painting with a low strength glue like Micro Krystal Klear or Elmers white glue. Once the painting and finishing is completed, gently pry the tacked on hood free, remove the masking, and glue it into the open position.

 

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Posted by damouav on Sunday, April 12, 2020 2:55 AM

damouav

Mask the canopy closed (ensure that the entire canopy itself is masked), paint then remove canopy.

Job done. I display most of my builds open, and this process I use.

 

 

You can use blu tack to hold the canopy whilst painting, less clean up than glue.

 

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, April 12, 2020 6:15 AM

I attach the fixed portions on the canopy, such as the front and rear piece. I then put tissue into the open cockpit to mask it, it needed i use small bit of tape around the edges. I paint the open porion of the canopy seperatly and add when done.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Sunday, April 12, 2020 8:45 AM

I use poster tack to hold the moveable part of the canopy in place while painting, if I want to open it later.  I just make sure there are no gaps along the join, and have never had a problem with paint getting inside.

 

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Posted by wpwar11 on Sunday, April 12, 2020 8:50 AM

Thanks gentlemen and happy Easter.

Bish I thought about the tissue thing but on this current build there is a long and narrow control stick (WW2 subject) that I’m afraid will break.  I found using very damp tissue helps conform and mask wheel wells perfectly.

This current kit and a few others I noticed come with two canopies.  I’ll use one to mask and one for the finished model.  Next time I brave the super market for groceries I’ll pick up Elmer’s white.  

Cheers and enjoy your Sunday.

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Posted by wpwar11 on Sunday, April 12, 2020 8:56 AM

Don

I have some poster tac here.  Do you roll it in your hands to create spaghetti like shapes and simply conform between canopy and fuselage?

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, April 12, 2020 9:19 AM

wpwar11

Thanks gentlemen and happy Easter.

Bish I thought about the tissue thing but on this current build there is a long and narrow control stick (WW2 subject) that I’m afraid will break.  I found using very damp tissue helps conform and mask wheel wells perfectly.

This current kit and a few others I noticed come with two canopies.  I’ll use one to mask and one for the finished model.  Next time I brave the super market for groceries I’ll pick up Elmer’s white.  

Cheers and enjoy your Sunday.

 

The majority of my aircraft are 1/72nd WW2 subjects, i've not had any issues breaking off the stick. I start with a couple of small balls of tissue down in the botom and then gently add more in small pieces with a pair of tweezers.

You don't get much tighter than a 72nd 109 pit.

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Posted by wpwar11 on Sunday, April 12, 2020 9:37 AM

Yes that’s considerably less space than the 1/48 Zero.  Thanks for more detail.  If I ever figure out how to post pictures I’ll start sharing.  Sometime today I’ll go to the test forum and see if I can solve the posting picture mystery.  Why won’t they just let you upload a picture from your device without the need of a third party?

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Posted by Bish on Sunday, April 12, 2020 9:42 AM

I'm not sure of the reason, but it seems to be the norm for the forums i have been on.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, April 14, 2020 9:20 AM

 

wpwar11

Don

I have some poster tac here.  Do you roll it in your hands to create spaghetti like shapes and simply conform between canopy and fuselage?

 

Yep, you got it.  I roll it quite thin, then bias it towards the insides of the join line to prevent shadowing the paint.

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Posted by the Baron on Wednesday, April 15, 2020 12:35 PM

I use tissue paper, too.  Regarding the interior, remember that you don't have to pack the cockpit full, you just need to block the open space.  I wet the paper, too, when putting it in place, and wet it again to remove it.  Makes it easier to work with.

As a followup to Stik's advice about tacking the canopy in place, if you use white glue, you can also use warm water to dissolve the glue, too, to remove the piece after you've painted.

wpwar11

If I ever figure out how to post pictures I’ll start sharing.  Sometime today I’ll go to the test forum and see if I can solve the posting picture mystery.  Why won’t they just let you upload a picture from your device without the need of a third party?

 
Regarding this, consider that it's a matter of storage space.  The attached files have to be stored, which is a cost to the forum.  Requiring participants to host their files elsewhere and use links to display their images removes that cost for the forum.
 

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Posted by wpwar11 on Wednesday, April 15, 2020 4:03 PM

Thanks Baron

I’m improving as a modeler and once I get photos uploaded and posted I’ll be excited to hear everyone’s thoughts on my builds.  It‘s a great way to get better.  I have pictures in a site called Imgur.  I just can’t figure out how to get them from there to here.  Understand I’m not the sharpest guy one it comes to these things.

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Posted by the Baron on Friday, April 17, 2020 12:35 PM

wpwar11

Thanks Baron

I’m improving as a modeler and once I get photos uploaded and posted I’ll be excited to hear everyone’s thoughts on my builds.  It‘s a great way to get better.  I have pictures in a site called Imgur.  I just can’t figure out how to get them from there to here.  Understand I’m not the sharpest guy one it comes to these things.

cheers 

I don't use Imgur, but I suspect its features are similar to those of other hosts.  So I went to www.imgur.com and looked at one of the pictures there.  Sure enough, there is a feature to share the pic-you can tell by the icon:

In that picture, I have clicked the Share icon, the horizontal "V", and we can see the menu that opens.  The icon at the end of that bar is the Link icon.  I clicked that, and the page printed a message, "Copied!"  So that looks like what you need to do to get the link for any of your pics.

I'm pasting in the link that I copied, and we'll see if it works....

https://imgur.com/gallery/Enyiveh

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Posted by the Baron on Friday, April 17, 2020 12:38 PM

OK, just pasting the link by itself didn't work.  I'm going to try a trick:

https://imgur.com/gallery/Enyiveh

I entered "image tags" to the link, that is, I typed on "img" in square brackets in front of the link, and "/img" in square brackets after the link.  Saving now to see what happens...

 

 

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Posted by the Baron on Friday, April 17, 2020 12:42 PM

OK, that didn't work, either.  I'm not a developer, and this is about as far as I can go off the top of my head.  I'll have to break out my HTML manual.  I'm sure there are others here in the meantime, though, who know better, especially if they use Imgur.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Friday, April 17, 2020 1:22 PM

I have had no problems with either the links icon or the insert menu.  Just make sure you get the right URL.

 

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Posted by the Baron on Friday, April 17, 2020 2:27 PM

Don Stauffer

I have had no problems with either the links icon or the insert menu.  Just make sure you get the right URL. 

Did I grab the right one, Don?  You can see how I got it in my post above-clicked Share, then clicked the Link icon in that menu.

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Posted by the Baron on Friday, April 17, 2020 2:28 PM

OK, this time, I tried it with that same link, using the Insert feature and pasting that into the  Source textbox.  Let's see...

OK, that creates an active link that someone would have to click, and it redirects to Imgur.

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Posted by wpwar11 on Friday, April 17, 2020 7:09 PM

Thanks for the help.  I greatly appreciate it.  I see my pictures on Imgur and can select a photo to share.  I’m having a problem from there.  I‘ll get one of the IT guys from work to help me.  I’ll get this working.  

Thanks again

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Posted by Tubosteve on Wednesday, May 6, 2020 5:38 AM

Personnaly, I use sponge. I have an old sponge that has probably seen car cleaning duties in days of old, I cut it into small'ish squares and then just pop them in until the cockpit or wheel well is filled and then go spray.

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Posted by JohnnyK on Wednesday, May 6, 2020 12:36 PM

wpwar11

Thanks for the help.  I greatly appreciate it.  I see my pictures on Imgur and can select a photo to share.  I’m having a problem from there.  I‘ll get one of the IT guys from work to help me.  I’ll get this working.  

Thanks again

 

I use imgur all the time. Just click on the picture from your album that you want to insert in ths forum. When the picture shows up on your screen move your cursor over to Direct Link and click on "COPY". Cilick in 'insert' on the FSM window and paste the li nk into the pop up window.

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Wednesday, May 6, 2020 1:44 PM

JohnnyK

 

 
wpwar11

Thanks for the help.  I greatly appreciate it.  I see my pictures on Imgur and can select a photo to share.  I’m having a problem from there.  I‘ll get one of the IT guys from work to help me.  I’ll get this working.  

Thanks again

 

 

 

I use imgur all the time. Just click on the picture from your album that you want to insert in ths forum. When the picture shows up on your screen move your cursor over to Direct Link and click on "COPY". Cilick in 'insert' on the FSM window and paste the li nk into the pop up window.

 

 

Does the copy function copy the image or the link? I believe what you need to use is the link address.

 

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Posted by JohnnyK on Wednesday, May 6, 2020 2:35 PM

That's a good question. When "COPY" in the Direct Link feature is picked the link is copied, not the image. Works like a charm.

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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