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glue painted parts together??
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 11, 2005 1:44 PM
Does anyone actually glue painted parts together? What kind of glue do you use? The only thing that I've tried that gives any acceptible results is 5 minute epoxy... there must be something easier.

It seems with the incredibly detailed and well built kits I see in magazines and in the built-models display cases of local hobby stores that minute parts that are different colors (i.e.- engine parts, seats and floor boards in cars, landing gear and landing gear doors on airplanes, etc., etc.) are painted first, then attached to the model... this leads me to the question as to what type of glue to use since hardly anything will adhere painted parts to each other. In the step-by-step builds in magazines they never mention this.

Do people scrape paint off the exact area where the parts will join? What if you don't know exactly where the parts will mate and want to avoid ugly glue sqeeze out and/or ugly touch-up paint marks? Or is the reality of this hobby endless hours of masking?

Any insight would be greatly appreciated!! Thanks.
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Posted by HeavyArty on Sunday, September 11, 2005 2:39 PM
Some items, like parts of the engine and smaller detail items on armored vehicles can be carefully painted on the vehicle after the main color coat is applied. Other parts are best done as separate subassemblies and painted then added.

I build all I can of the model that gets painted the same color. Then paint that base color. For items that are a different color, like tools, fire extinguishers, etc, I paint them separately and then glue them on with superglue. Same is true for figures, I build the bodies and attach the arms if they can be painted in place. If not I leave the arms off and paint them separately. Heads are painted separately as well. I usually leave all gear off, paint separately, then glue it all together with superglue.

You can go through the pain of scraping the paint off both pieces and then using model glue, but I fiind this to be a real pain. You usually have to touch up the paint as well. With the superglue, all you have to do is give it an overall dulcote once dry, and weather as normal.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 11, 2005 3:12 PM
CA can fog over painted parts, even after a coat of future. I recommend that you remove the paint with sand paper or a x-acto knife and then cement the parts together
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, September 11, 2005 4:02 PM
If you are using a solvent glue, paint and chrome must be removed from the mating surfaces.
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Posted by HeavyArty on Sunday, September 11, 2005 9:33 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by ryanpm

CA can fog over painted parts, even after a coat of future. I recommend that you remove the paint with sand paper or a x-acto knife and then cement the parts together


Use it sparingly and allow it to vent off the fumes a couple seconds. I never have a problem with fogging and I don't use Future either.

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Posted by MusicCity on Sunday, September 11, 2005 10:10 PM
You also have to be careful with your choice of glue when joining painted parts. Glues that don't dissolve the glue simply glue paint to paint so the strength of the joint is only as strong as the adhesion of the paint. Tedious as it is your best bet is to remove the paint where the parts join.
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Posted by RichardI on Saturday, September 17, 2005 10:31 AM
Isn't there a non-crazing type of CA? I've heard it's used to glue canopies onto models.

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Posted by qmiester on Saturday, September 17, 2005 11:49 AM
I agree with Gino - if you apply CA where the part is well ventilated, you should have no trouble. Only time I've ever had any problems were on a couple of canopies that I had CA'd into place. They both fogged on the inside (cockpit filled with fumes)
You might also try Elmers glue - granted it isn't as strong as CA, but it will hold smaller parts as long as you don't mess with it afterwards.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, September 20, 2005 7:43 AM
Mighty Bond by Epoxy does a good job for me. when it does cause fogging on tight or not so-well ventilated areas, i simply wipe off the fogging with damp tissue..the fogging wipes away like it were dust.. funnyCool [8D]
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