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What I don't like about Model Master Paints

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  • From: Beavercreek, Ohio
What I don't like about Model Master Paints
Posted by Wrinkledm on Sunday, September 7, 2008 6:42 PM

I hope that was an attention grabber!!!  Its not about the paint, its the stupid bottle caps and liners.  I just purchased my first bottle of Tamiya Acryl paint and it seems they got the packaging right. (At least as far as the paint seal goes.)  Does anyone have decent solution for replacing or modifying the silly cardboard cap liners that MM uses in the bottles.  Surely by now someone has come up with a replacement cap or liner.  Any and all info would be greatly appreciated.  Or am I just over reacting as usual.


Dave

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  • From: Maryland
Posted by usmc1371 on Sunday, September 7, 2008 6:45 PM

I know the problem you're talking about.  The real trick with the Model Master bottles is to wipe off the top of jar after you open it each time.  I also wipe off the interior of the lid each time.  I don't it try to get it spotless, I just wipe up most of the paint in the lid.

Jesse

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  • From: Abbotsford, B.C. Canada
Posted by DrewH on Sunday, September 7, 2008 6:45 PM
Well you have a point Dave. And a good one. Unfortunatly I doubt that MM will ever change it's bottles and lids. Every hobby shop would have to change their racks. FYI - Hobbyshops have to pay for those racks!
Take this plastic and model it!
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Posted by zokissima on Monday, September 8, 2008 7:25 AM
 usmc1371 wrote:

I know the problem you're talking about.  The real trick with the Model Master bottles is to wipe off the top of jar after you open it each time.  I also wipe off the interior of the lid each time.  I don't it try to get it spotless, I just wipe up most of the paint in the lid.

Jesse

+1

I've been doing this for years, and haven't had problems with the cardboard sticking any longer.

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  • From: Huntington, WV
Posted by EZSnapes on Wednesday, September 10, 2008 7:53 PM

You can make new cap liners using high gloss cardboard (not corrugated) that is found in most high-end packaging; look for packaging that is glossy white on one side.  I hand paint several coats of gloss enamel on both sides.  After that dries I use a circle template to draw a liner slightly larger than needed and cut them out with scissors.  The circles don't have to be perfect since you actually want them to be slightly oversize.  The glossy white side faces the paint.

I also got into the habit of using small squares of plastic wrap between the cap and bottle.  This prevents dried out paint and sticking caps.

Al
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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:52 PM
I use the paint in the lid before I use it out of the bottle... Then I'll wipe the bottle top... No sticky...

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  • From: Indiana
Posted by hkshooter on Tuesday, September 16, 2008 8:21 PM

My problem with MM paints is something else. A few days ago I opened a preiously unopened bottle of RAF Dark Green only to find it was dried to putty. Not happy and not the first time it's happened.

I solved the messy cap problem years ago the same way most everyone else who has commented here has.

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  • From: Beavercreek, Ohio
Posted by Wrinkledm on Friday, September 19, 2008 5:20 PM

Thanks for all your input.  My hope is that someone had come up with an aftermarket seal similar to the ones that Badger uses in its replacement jars.  To me it looks like some sort of plastic ring. That in my feable mind would make a simple aftermarket fix for MM paint jars.

  Cheers...

Dave

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  • From: Tucson
Posted by cardshark_14 on Friday, December 19, 2008 6:38 PM
Holy thread revival and all, but I have an easy solution for all of you...clean off the threads of the paint jar and the cap, and cut out a 1-1/2" square of seran wrap.  Stick it on the top of the jar, and thread the cap on as usual...You may have to replace the seran wrap from time to time, but this works perfectly.

HTH!

Cheers,
Alex
Never trust anyone who refuses to drink domestic beer, laugh at the Three Stooges, or crank Back In Black.
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Posted by hkshooter on Friday, December 19, 2008 10:56 PM
I may have to give that a try Alex. Just might do that, sounds spiffy.
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Posted by Bgrigg on Saturday, December 20, 2008 6:26 AM
 EZSnapes wrote:

I also got into the habit of using small squares of plastic wrap between the cap and bottle.  This prevents dried out paint and sticking caps.

Bingo! This works very well, the only caveat is that if paint gets splashed against the plastic wrap you need to be careful that dried paint doesn't fall back inside the bottle when peeling it off. Otherwise a cheap and easy solution to the stuck cap problem.

So long folks!

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Saturday, December 20, 2008 4:09 PM
I really hate mm paints for this issue, its why I keep a pair of plyers around my modeling table.  Thanks for the tip bout the plastic wrap

 

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Posted by qmiester on Monday, December 22, 2008 6:36 PM
I'm another of those who try to clean both the cap interior and the top (lid) of my Testors paints after each useage.  In the past however, I have managed to either loose or tear the gasket for one reason or another.  I've had good luck making new gaskets out of the plastic from the side of a plastic milk jug.  Cut out a circle of plastic the proper diameter, clean the inside of the lid, insert the new plastic gasket and screw the lid back onto the jar.
Quincy
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Posted by Mike S. on Monday, December 22, 2008 8:10 PM

No question about it, they do tend to dry or congeal faster than other brands. I store mine upside down to curb this, but it really doesn't stop the process altogether. Doubly so for the acrylic versions.

I had the same problem with Floquil Polly paints too.

As mentioned above, Tamiya paints seem to be the front runner in the longevity department. I have some that are well over 8 years old and still fully usable.

Humbrol, in spite of their funky tins packaging, will last the long haul if properly sealed up too. I believe they have recently changed the container to a screw top, no?

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  • From: Beavercreek, Ohio
Posted by Wrinkledm on Tuesday, December 23, 2008 3:45 PM

I'm another of those who try to clean both the cap interior and the top (lid) of my Testors paints after each useage.  In the past however, I have managed to either loose or tear the gasket for one reason or another.  I've had good luck making new gaskets out of the plastic from the side of a plastic milk jug.  Cut out a circle of plastic the proper diameter, clean the inside of the lid, insert the new plastic gasket and screw the lid back onto the jar.

Thanks for the idea, when I get back home I'll have to give it a try.  I suppose in conjunction with the cardboard insert would make a good seal.

 Thanks, and have a happy Christmas.

D

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  • From: SE Pennsylvania
Posted by padakr on Tuesday, December 30, 2008 4:38 PM

I have been using Testors (both MM and plain) for years and have always had the stuck lid problem as well as having to pry off the insert on occasion.

Thanks to all who posted about using plastic wrap.  I just started doing that (well, actually I am using Press-N-Seal, but it seems to work okay) and am slowing "fixing" all my jars.

I'll also try the milk jug cut out idea too when I get to one of my crusted on inserts.

 

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