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tamiya primer?
Posted by frankie1 on Monday, January 25, 2010 1:08 PM

ive read somewhere that tamiya dont maken acrylic primer that can be run through an airbrush.  They only make an aerosol can which i dont want to use.  ive been using humbrol enamels and want to start using tamiya acrylics (the smell of enamels i can cope with, the waiting for paint to dry though is terrible).

Basically, can anyone confirm wheather tamiya make an acrylic primer.  If not can anybody recommend an alternative brand (preferably white and ready thinned to run through an airbrush). and can you paint acrylics on top of enamel primer.

thanx

 

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  • From: Left forever
Posted by Bgrigg on Monday, January 25, 2010 1:25 PM

The point of primers is to "grab" the plastic giving you a good surface to adhere the paint to. Which is why you don't find acrylic primers, they aren't aggressive enough. However, if you are patient, and willing to give the paint time to cure (2-4 days depended on temperature and humidity) just use one of the flat light grays. Once acrylic paints are fully cured, they are a very tough surface. Make sure that you have washed off any remaining mold release agents.

A properly cleaned surface doesn't even need a primer coat, though often they show minor imperfections that can be cleaned up before investing time and effort into a complex paint job.

And yes, you can paint acrylics onto a fully cured enamel base.

So long folks!

  • Member since
    October 2007
  • From: Scotland
Posted by Milairjunkie on Monday, January 25, 2010 1:30 PM

I went through this conundrum a couple of years ago, wanting acrylic all the way & preferably Tamiya. After looking around it looked to me that there wasnt really much / anything available in acryic primer.

After much reading I came to the conclusion that Mr Surfacer was a reasonable option for priming & after using it I have to agree. It is expensive, but gives a super smooth finish & dries quickly - on the downside supply in the UK seems to be patchy & the product supplied in jars for airbrushing seem to get mixed reviews, I have used this for spot filling but not through my airbrush. All my priming has been done by Mr Surfacer in a can & it seems to work well.

Although Mr Surfacer is not acrylic, this has its advantages as it adheres far better to styrene than any acrylic could & the bond between Tamiya acrylic & Mr Surfacer is stronger than Tamiya acrylic to styrene.

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  • From: Sydney, Australia
Posted by Phil_H on Tuesday, January 26, 2010 4:39 AM

Tamiya doesn't have an acrylic primer.

However, in addition to their spray primer, they do have a brushable, and if suitably thinned, airbrushable primer product, "Liquid Surface Primer" (often referred to on this forum as "LSP". This comes in 40ml jars grey or white and is lacquer based. This product is similar in many respects to Gunze's "Mr Surfacer". Unliike Mr Surfacer, Tamiya LSP is soluble with denatured alcohol and this can be used for cleanup . At a pinch, denatured alcoohol can also be used to thin LSP, but it thins better with  their lacquer thinner.

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