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  • Member since
    January 2022
  • From: Colorado
What is the needle?
Posted by ModelMadness on Wednesday, March 2, 2022 7:08 AM

First post here.  Built models on and off over the decades and never used an airbrush.  Once I moved in to my house it was time to unpack and in my model desk I decided to look in all the drawers and in the very back (no idea it was there) was a Paasche VL.  I know I did not buy it, but maybe a family member gave it to me and I forgot all about it.  Anyways, it looks old.  Reading the manual it states that it has 3 needles, but for the life of me I cannot tell which one is which.

The manual shows the three needles and one is very different in which the tip looks like it was cut in half length wise.  Not airbrushing ever not sure what that is for.  But the other two look identical, yet the manual shows they are different.The manual shows #7 as being shorter (tip to end of taper), but when I put the two side by side they have the tip to taper the same

How does one figure which one is which?  What is the half needle used for?

Thank you everyone and I look forward to finding out everything about this and finally taking the dive to airbrush.

  • Member since
    May 2009
  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Wednesday, March 2, 2022 8:54 AM

Hello!

Photos would help here, but I guess the "half needle" could be the reamer - a tool for removing gunk out of the nozzle. By the way it should only be used in emergency or as last resort - using it regularily would probably wear the nozzle out very soon.

Now for the needles - Paasche usually has #1 and #2 and they work together with nozzle #1 and #2. Both the needles and the nozzles are marked with a groove, two grooves or no groove at all - granted the descrition which is which could be clearer here. Anyway the needle with one groove should work with the nozzle with one groove and so on.

I hope it helps and good luck with your airbrush - many modellers dream o f opening a drawer and just finding a Paasche in there! Use that opportunity and have a nice day!

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

  • Member since
    January 2022
  • From: Colorado
Posted by ModelMadness on Wednesday, March 2, 2022 8:54 PM

Here is my manual that came with the Paasche VL

https://docdro.id/9Bk9eh0

Well, I found out.  I came home then went back to work where we have microscopes.  At the butt end I can see the number #1 engraved so case solved.  Both needles are #1 and so I must assume that the tip is matched for #1 needles.

So looks like I need to go and buy #3 and #5 with matching tips.

Are there descent stores online where I can buy more needles or should I just stick with going to the manufacturer?

Thank you for helping Pawel, when you mentioned grooves I just thought that maybe there is a some identifier on the needle?  Hence the microscope avenue I took thanks to you mentioning the grooves.

 

UPDATE - here is the newest manual from Paasche

https://3372523.app.netsuite.com/core/media/media.nl?id=17888&c=3372523&h=Xe2YFULyMTnRkICM5qYCf9B4n_fc77zoqJBhhg_Rc8NyRvrq&_xt=.pdf&fcts=20201127051524&whence=

  • Member since
    October 2008
  • From: Fullerton, Calif.
Posted by Don Wheeler on Wednesday, March 2, 2022 8:59 PM

You can see a photo of all three needles and other info on this page.

https://sites.google.com/site/donsairbrushtips/home

A collection of airbrush tips and reviews

Also an Amazon E-book and paperback of tips.

  • Member since
    May 2009
  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Thursday, March 3, 2022 2:44 AM

Hello!

Glad I could help you. On the Page Don posted is this picture:

In the lower rigt corner, on the dull end of the needle you can see the grooves I mentionend. It might well be that the needle #1 just doesn't have the grooves - I always had a problem with their coding. From what I remember it isn't #1 - 1 groove, #2 - 2 grooves. That would be too easy.

As for parts - some years ago I ordered Paasche parts directly from Paasche - and that worked pretty good, so I can recommend doing it just like that.

Good luck with your airbrush and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

  • Member since
    November 2018
Posted by oldermodelguy on Thursday, March 3, 2022 6:20 AM

I've gotten Paasche parts from Paasche, it was nice to just call up and talk to a human being. But I've ordered from Amazon too and they have the whole 3 needle set with nozzles and air caps there for the VL, fwiw. It's in a set, I think it's $32 or so. Course I don't know what anyone would need the large needle for in model painting, maybe it would be good for airbrushing murals on a wall.. You could probably do most things on models with that smallest needle with a VL.

  • Member since
    January 2022
  • From: Colorado
Posted by ModelMadness on Thursday, March 3, 2022 7:24 AM

Thank you everyone for helping out.  Reading and seeing that Paasche uses grooves to indicate what needle size makes me wonder the history since the needles I have do not have grooves, but they actually have the number "1" embossed at the end.  I wonder when they cut over to the grooves.  Maybe this tells me how old this airbrush is.

I have no idea where I got this airbrush and I was never an airbrush modeler.  Only one family member built models, but he does not remember ever using an airbrush.  Maybe when I bought the desk from a garage sale, maybe it was in there.  Who knows.  So a rabbit hole to go down.

Just bought a set of needles, aircap, airbody so I can expand and utilize these for my builds that I want to get back in to.

Thank you again everyone and thank you for the tips.

  • Member since
    November 2018
Posted by oldermodelguy on Thursday, March 3, 2022 10:54 AM

Do you have a compressor etc. ?

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