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Airbrush?
Posted by Tony G on Saturday, January 13, 2024 3:49 PM

Looking to get a new airbrush for model planes. I've built a lot of plastic models when I was a kid but always used a brush. I would like to start doing more airbrushing. I'll most likely use Vallejo air acrylics and Tamiya acrylics since that is what my local hobby shop carries. I currently own and older Paasche VL siphon airbrush set but would like to upgrade.

Any recommendations for a quality airbrush that will do most painting with acrylics for model building? 

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Posted by Tojo72 on Tuesday, January 16, 2024 9:40 AM

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Posted by MJY65 on Tuesday, January 16, 2024 10:00 AM

For acrylics, I'd suggest an Iwata Eclipse with a .5 nozzle.   I'd go with the .35 if using lacquers.   BTW:  You can switch a few parts and have both.  

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Posted by FalconFan24 on Wednesday, January 17, 2024 12:39 PM

That is not correct, you don't need a .5 nozzle for acylics. This comes from a lack of understanding of how to use acrylics. This is one of the reasons I started my Youtube channel is to teach people how to properly use acrylics. If you watch my videos, I mostly airbrush acrylics using .2mm needle/nozzle. Even with primers I tend to use .3mm and sometimes .5 for bigger kits. 

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Posted by FalconFan24 on Wednesday, January 17, 2024 12:59 PM

I posted this response in another group. But might be useful here:

***I want to get this out of the way: your needle/nozzle is not dependent on if your using acrylics/lacquers/enamels***

I’m a former professional airbrush artist with 25 years of experience. Still operate about 50 airbrushes currently. I personally don’t like recommending airbrushes to people. But I think that has not been helpful, so I have some recommendations below. But wanted to share that airbrushes are like cars, it’s really a personal preference. I love my Badger and Harder & Steenbeck airbrushes. However, I hate my Iwata and GSI. Yet there are modelers who swear by them. If you’re a IPMS member, maybe you can test out some of your club members airbrushes. That might give you some good insight.

Here is some things to consider in buying an airbrush.

1) performance: this one is probably the easier one. Most modern airbrushes perform fairly well. So this one is really more what kinda of models you plan to airbrush. So a .3mm needle size airbrush would be good for 1/48 or 1/35. But it might be better to go .2mm for 1/72 or 144. And for spraying primers you might want a separate airbrush with a .4 or .5 needle setup.

2) cost: this is a big factor. Price and quality are related but at some point it makes no difference. Just don’t waste your time on a cheap $20 airbrush…you will regret it.

3) replacement parts. This is a big factor. How expensive they are and readily available are they? My badger needle/nozzle replacement costs $20….yet for my harder & Steenbeck the same part costs $65. Also keep in mind, that some airbrush parts (depending on the brand) are hard to get a hold of around the world. I had a sparmax airbrush that I got rid of because it was so hard to find replacement parts for it.

My recommendation for a good starter airbrushes that will be good investments: the top choice is badger 105 patriot, very solid airbrush and built to last and you can customize it to your needs (meaning you can make it a fine detail airbrush to .7mm for broad airbrushing) Iwata Neo, it’s a good budget airbrush. It is not a true Iwata with the level of the quality control from those main product line. But it is a good starter airbrush. Paasche Talon/raptor (raptor is the small cup version of the Talon), best value of the three for price. You can get it with hose, and all 3 needle/nozzles for less than $100. Solid airbrush and you can find replacement parts easy. Another good one is GSI creos, its fairly affordable (goes for 80ish dollars), solid build, great performance. But parts are expensive and somewhat hard to get hold off.

 

Oh and one last bit of advice, take a look at Facebook marketplace. A lot of people sell their airbrushes for super  cheap. I have picked up $200 airbrushes for $20.

 

Hope this helps!

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Posted by oldermodelguy on Wednesday, January 17, 2024 5:22 PM

Really there isn't anything wrong with the VL. As I mentioned in your other post, get the fine needle set and a metal side cup, if you don't have them already. But also, they're built like tanks and Paasche has excellent customer service.

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Posted by MJY65 on Thursday, January 18, 2024 6:30 AM

FalconFan24

That is not correct, you don't need a .5 nozzle for acylics. This comes from a lack of understanding of how to use acrylics. This is one of the reasons I started my Youtube channel is to teach people how to properly use acrylics. If you watch my videos, I mostly airbrush acrylics using .2mm needle/nozzle. Even with primers I tend to use .3mm and sometimes .5 for bigger kits. 

 

 
I guess the rest of us can just shut up and sit down.   Note that I made a suggestion for a new guy, not an assertion of absolute fact.  Good luck promoting the YouTube channel, though.   
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Posted by oldermodelguy on Thursday, January 18, 2024 6:41 AM

MJY65

 

I guess the rest of us can just shut up and sit down.   Note that I made a suggestion for a new guy, not an assertion of absolute fact.  Good luck promoting the YouTube channel, though.   
 

There isn't anything wrong with your reply, you followed the guideline of many acrylic paint manufacturers actually. Nobody would go wrong using your info. Ya we can always doctor the paints to do otherwise, I sometimes do that myself. but heck I shoot acrylic with tips from .4 to 1.0. And lacquers down to .25. I've even shot Vallejo Model air with that .25 by thinning a little bit extra. But day in and day out I use the bigger tips.

Anyway, nothing wrong with your advice.

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Posted by Tojo72 on Thursday, January 18, 2024 7:23 AM

MJY65

 

 
FalconFan24

That is not correct, you don't need a .5 nozzle for acylics. This comes from a lack of understanding of how to use acrylics. This is one of the reasons I started my Youtube channel is to teach people how to properly use acrylics. If you watch my videos, I mostly airbrush acrylics using .2mm needle/nozzle. Even with primers I tend to use .3mm and sometimes .5 for bigger kits. 

 

 

 
I guess the rest of us can just shut up and sit down.   Note that I made a suggestion for a new guy, not an assertion of absolute fact.  Good luck promoting the YouTube channel, though.   
 

Yeah,there's a way to talk to people and a way not too,needless to say I won't be watching those YouTube videos if that's the tone.

Maybe someday I can operate 50 airbrushes too Confused

I'm certainly no expert,that's why I sent him to Don's site, I like his tone better.

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