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3M putty
Posted by gunner_chris on Tuesday, November 8, 2011 11:20 PM
I've become tired of the headaches from squadron greens fumes. I went to walmart, Canadian Tire and Parts Source and ended up with " 3M spot and glaze putty". Is this the replacement, or a suitable product for the acry-blue/green/red that's been discontinued? The guy at the parts counter seemed confused when I asked him. The only option was red hardener.

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  • From: Ontario, Canada
Posted by gunner_chris on Wednesday, November 9, 2011 3:02 AM
Also it says clean up with lacquer thinner, so should I use rubbing alcohol to thin?

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Posted by Milairjunkie on Wednesday, November 9, 2011 3:11 AM

I imagine by it's description that it's similar to what you were looking for, but regards thinner - I'm not sure that alcohol will work, try some but I think you'll need to use lacquer or cellulose thinners.

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Wednesday, November 9, 2011 8:52 AM

While my present stuff is another brand, it is essentially the same stuff.  Thin with lacquer thinner, not alcohol (though I have also used paint thinner to thin small amounts). I also use paint thinner to clean the palette knife I use to apply the putty.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by JOE RIX on Wednesday, November 9, 2011 9:05 AM

 I'm not entirely sure if the 3m blue that I use is the same as what you have picked up but it sorts sounds like it. I thin my 3m putty with acetone. Works very well with one drawback, it dries very quickly during application. I get around this by continually adding acetone as acetone evaporates rapidly. Tonus of this though is that it dries quickly after application and can be sanded in short order.

                                                          Joe

"Not only do I not know what's going on, I wouldn't know what to do about it if I did". George Carlin

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  • From: Central USA
Posted by qmiester on Wednesday, November 30, 2011 8:01 AM

I've used the 3M Spot and Glaze putty for years and love it -It comes in three colors and depending on the color (green, blue and red),  has 3 significantly different drying speeds. The green dries very quickly (almost too fast!), the blue takes a few minutes (6 to 8 at a guess) and the red takes 15 to 20 minutes to dry (my prefered color).

I thin it  with laquer thinner (although I have heard of folks who have had good luck thinning with acetone or MEK).  You can thin it down to the consistancy of water and apply it with an old paint brush (just make sure you put the lid back on tight)

Quincy
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Posted by Neptune48 on Saturday, December 3, 2011 12:09 AM

Re-posted from earlier this year...

 

Last December I contacted 3M's Automotive Market Division.  Here's a composite of the two communications I received:

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"The 3M™ Acryl-Blue Glazing Putty, 05964 is no longer available. The
suggested replacement is the 3M™ Acryl-Marine Putty, 05962 White. This is
the old 21 oz. tube and we have inventory. Eventually the 21 oz tube 05962
will be phased out and be replaced by 05095 in the 14.5 oz. tube.

"The 3M™ Acryl-Marine Putty is the same formula as the 3M™ Acryl-Blue
Glazing Putty except that it does not have the blue colorant

"Napa or Carquest in you area should have these products.

"Sincerely

"Clauzel G.
"3M Automotive Aftermarket Division"

 

"These products vary widely depending on temperature and thickness of
application. Because they cure by solvent evaporation, a small difference
in applied thickness or temperature can cause a multi-hour shift in sand
time. Here are some VERY ROUGH estimates of sand times for the Acryl
putties (all at 72 deg F):

3M™ Acryl-Green Spot Putty, PN 05960: A truly "spot-only" putty, this one
cures the fastest and will not work for spreading over large areas. To be
used only for small spot repairs. In a thin film, this should be sandable
in about 15 minutes. In a thicker film, could be 30 minutes or longer.

"3M™ Acryl Red Glazing Putty, PN 05966 ,and 3M™ Super Red Putty, PN 05972:
Both similar in sand times. In a thin film, could be sandable within 1
hour. Thicker films could be up to 6-8 hours before sandable.

"3M™ Acryl-Blue Glazing Putty, PN 05964 and 3M™ Marine White Putty, PN
05962 . Same formulation, just no blue dye in the marine putty. This is
really an overnight putty, any type of film will likely take at least 12
hours to dry. This is meant for larger jobs.

3M™ Acryl-Marine Putty -- White (PN 05962) should be used to fill small
surface defects such as pinholes and small scratches. Recommended for
minor imperfections, which only require a very thin application. Thick
application will shrink and crack.

"This product is not intended to be used by itself and must be covered with
marine paint or gel coat.
3M™ Acryl-Marine Putty can be used below the waterline only when it is
protected by a marine finish that is intended for use below the waterline.
3M™ Acryl-Marine Putty should not be used for blister repair.

"Sincerely

"Clauzel G.
"3M Automotive Aftermarket Division"

 

I have used lacquer thinner or MEK to thin Acryl Blue.

Regards,
Bruce

"You can't have everything--where would you put it?"
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Posted by wjbwjb29 on Thursday, December 15, 2011 12:24 PM

If squadron green gives you headachs the 3M stuff will do the same. I have been using Mr. Surfacer 500 for filling seams and the smell is not that bad. You could use a fan that is blowing away from you to suck the fumes away.

 

Bill

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Posted by dirkpitt77 on Monday, December 19, 2011 5:28 PM

   Where are you guys getting the Mr. Surfacer products?   The closest shop to me that stocks it is 60 miles away.  Is there an online source?

 

--Chris

    "Some say the alien didn't die in the crash.  It survived and drank whiskey and played poker with the locals 'til the Texas Rangers caught wind of it and shot it dead."

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Posted by Dungmaggot on Sunday, January 1, 2012 1:16 PM

www.spruebrothers.com has a good selection of Mr. Surfacer and the like.

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  • From: Ontario, Canada
Posted by gunner_chris on Monday, January 9, 2012 7:33 PM

What's a good location to mix the putty?

I tried a styrofoam cup but that melted.

Seeing how it hardens I don't want to use my pallet I use for mixing paint.

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  • From: Longmont, Colorado
Posted by Cadet Chuck on Monday, January 9, 2012 7:46 PM

I have quit using Squadron Green or White long ago.  I like Vellejo plastic putty and Mr. Surfacer 500.  Easy to apply and smooths out nicely with finger tip.

Gimme a pigfoot, and a bottle of beer...

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  • From: Medford, OR
Posted by OMCUSNR on Sunday, January 15, 2012 11:13 AM

Go to your local art store and get a couple of water color artist pallets.  They will have several indentations in them.  they're great for mixing paints & pastes.

 

Reid

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Posted by gunner_chris on Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:49 PM

OMCUSNR

Go to your local art store and get a couple of water color artist pallets.  They will have several indentations in them.  they're great for mixing paints & pastes.

 

Reid

Do you clean it out afterwards or let it harden up and once all the indentations are used toss the pallet?

I'm just worried about it hardening in the pipes when I try to clean it in the laundry sink.

My wife freaks if fat goes down the drain, so I couldn't imagine her reaction to putty.

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  • From: White Mountains, NH
Posted by jhande on Monday, January 16, 2012 10:46 PM

I have used the 3M red putty for years on both real cars in the body shop and my car models. I don't thin it, but I use one of those aluminum foil trays/pans you can pick up cheap. I let the putty harden in the tray and just peel it out and toss in garbage.

-- Jim --
"Put the pedal down & shake the ground!"

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Posted by BRIAN KARAS on Wednesday, December 29, 2021 10:28 PM

I've been using Acryl Red for a long time. Sometimes I thin it with Testors liquid cement.

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Posted by rocketman2000 on Tuesday, January 4, 2022 8:56 AM

JOE RIX

 I'm not entirely sure if the 3m blue that I use is the same as what you have picked up but it sorts sounds like it. I thin my 3m putty with acetone. Works very well with one drawback, it dries very quickly during application. I get around this by continually adding acetone as acetone evaporates rapidly. Tonus of this though is that it dries quickly after application and can be sanded in short order.

                                                          Joe

 

Spot/glazing putty dries fast even without thinning.  Keep cap off only long enough to put a dab on a pallete, and work fast.  You do not need to work it to long- it sands well unlike epoxy or gel CA.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by JohnnyK on Tuesday, January 11, 2022 10:39 AM

I use Bondo Glazing and Spot Putty. It's red in color. 3m owns Bondo so I wonder if the Bondo stuff is the same as the 3M product?

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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    June 2021
Posted by rocketman2000 on Friday, January 21, 2022 1:10 PM

JohnnyK

I use Bondo Glazing and Spot Putty. It's red in color. 3m owns Bondo so I wonder if the Bondo stuff is the same as the 3M product?

 

I think it is.  But I ran out a couple of days ago, and went to local hardware/building supply stores that I know carry it.  Nobody had any in stock.  A guy at Menards looked into it, and said their local distribution office said they had no stock and didn't know when they would next get some in stock.  Amazon said they had it in stock and promised I'd get it next Wednesday, so I went ahead and ordered it.  At least it is now on the way, even if I had to pay twice what I usually pay.  Supply chain problems seem to be still here for modelers.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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