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i wanna ask some dum questions!!!
Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 29, 2004 11:54 AM
1. can i get any kind of thinner? to clean airbrushes and brushs and other stuff

2. what kinda sand paper can i get?

3. for stripping paint i want uptown to see if the store in the hardware part have simple green and they didnt so..is there anything esle i can strip paint off of model cars??

lol sorry for asking some dum questions
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 29, 2004 12:31 PM
any1 got sites for info how to strip paint with simple green ? b/c i just got some
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Posted by MusicCity on Wednesday, September 29, 2004 12:33 PM
1) What kind of paint do you use? Laquer, enamel, or acrylic? For laquer use laquer thinner. For enamel use mineral spirits, turpentine, or turpenoid. For acrylics use either of the above, Windex, or in some cases just plain water. I use MikeV's mixture of 2 parts distilled water, 1 part Simple Green, 1 part Windex for acrylics. Note: Any time you are airbrushing enamel or laquer or cleaning your airbrush with enamel or laquer thinner you should be wearing a respirator. The vapors from those chemicals are not healthy to breathe.

2) The lower numbers on the grit mean it is rougher, higher numbers mean it is smoother. Rougher also means that it will a) Cut down the surface faster, and b) cut grooves in the plastic worse which will require more fine sanding to get them out. For quick take-off use something like 320 grit or coarser. For fine polishing use 1200 grit or higher. Most people start coarse and then progressively work their way up to the fine grits.

3) Simple Green will only strip acrylics, and it won't always strip them. Try Castrol Super Clean. It is available at most auto parts stores or in the aut parts section of most larger department stores.
Scott Craig -- Nashville, TN -- My Website -- My Models Page
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 29, 2004 12:50 PM
there alot of poeple that use this Simple Green to strip there models and other stuff for there models so..im goin to give it a try and see if it works but i got some sand paper i got 220 grit,320 grit,400 grit,600 grit, & 1500 grit so i didnt know what kind to get so..i just a package like with diff grits and i use enamel & acrylic paints
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 29, 2004 1:43 PM
MusicCity, i just reread your post and u sound like my mom when it come to using thinner LOL
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 29, 2004 6:30 PM
The Laquer thinner's/paints are extremely hazardous even more so than enamels...neither are safe to be inhaled without protection. Also remember to use/clean your airbrush in a well ventilated area especially when using laquer thinner the fumes are highly flammable!
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Posted by MusicCity on Wednesday, September 29, 2004 8:32 PM
QUOTE: MusicCity, i just reread your post and u sound like my mom when it come to using thinner LOL

Perhaps you should listen to her, she knows what she is talking about. As HistoryinScale said, they are not safe to breathe in concentration.
Scott Craig -- Nashville, TN -- My Website -- My Models Page
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, September 29, 2004 10:05 PM
hehehehe
they may sound like ur mum, but i bet ur mum was right most of the time ('one day u'll look back and see that im right' and god damit, she was ;))
i sprayed just a drop of thinners through the ab 2 clean it and the whole room became un-inhabibitable.... that stuff is bad....
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 30, 2004 4:05 AM
are all thinner's the same?? lol other dum question Banged Head [banghead]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 30, 2004 5:32 AM
no, they are quite different. its sorta like trying to mix oil with water - wont happen. usually the brand of paint will have a same brand thinner, using this same brand of thinner will usually work the best. what brand do you use ?
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 30, 2004 5:40 AM
i am using model master thinner but i am about out so..i got some other kind of thinner it is called Ace Paint Thinner 100% Mineral Spirits
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 30, 2004 7:32 AM
whatever you do dont use that ! it may be too "hot" for the plastic ! i totalled a chassis with hardware stroe paint thinner ! use only hobby kind thinners on your model.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 30, 2004 7:59 AM
walmart dont have any big things of the thinner and i cant order anything online b/c still payin the cards off so...i got to use hardware store paint thinner Blindfold [X-)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 30, 2004 8:01 AM
im goin to test out the thinner on a pre-painted model and see what it does before i use it
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 30, 2004 10:19 AM
please make sure that whatever you test it on is disposable! i really was heartbroken to see a puddle when i wanted to see bare plastic. try it out on a bit of sprue first.
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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 30, 2004 10:26 AM
so..just paint one of the part trees and use thinner on it???? see what it does?
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Posted by midnightprowler on Thursday, September 30, 2004 5:07 PM
Simple Green has worked for me with every paint I have stripped with it.
Lee

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Posted by Anonymous on Thursday, September 30, 2004 5:28 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Ghetto2k4

i am using model master thinner but i am about out so..i got some other kind of thinner it is called Ace Paint Thinner 100% Mineral Spirits


What exactly are you trying to find out? Will the thinner strip the paint off your model? Sure, will and you'll have a pile of very flexible plastic in a non-recognizable lump. Thinner should never be used to strip paint no matter what kind it is....Reason why I ask this is...you said your going to test it out on some painted model...what is there to test?

Now if your just cleaning your paintbrushes...you should be fine. No sense in paying an exorborent price for Model thinner when regular thinner will clean the brushes just as well and more cost effectively.

For enamels through the airbrush....I use hobby thinner to thin the paint, but I use regular thinner to clean the airbrush and paint cup...Thats about the ONLY time I use "Hobby Brand" Thinner is when thinning enamel paints for airbrushing....every other task is used with an off brand thinner...
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Posted by JCon on Thursday, September 30, 2004 6:00 PM
Tongue [:P]The only dumb question is the one you are too embarassed to ask! This is precisely what forums are good for, ask away and you will get informed responses by people like HistoryinScale, midnightprowler, reggiethedorf, tominator & MusicCity! Great advise is well worth the small embarassment of asking and saving yourself from making a big mistake others have made in the past! The smartest thing is to learn from other peoples mistakes and not make your own! Big Smile [:D]
Happy Modeling, Joe Favorite Quote: It's what you learn after you know it all that counts!
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Posted by qmiester on Thursday, September 30, 2004 6:34 PM
A. The only dumb question is the one you don't ask.
B. I've had good luck stripping what little acrylics I've stripped with a Car Quest product called Purple Cleaner.
If you're stripping enamels, try a spray on oven cleaner (Easy Off comes to mind). Wear hand and eye protection if you do because it will certainly let you know you have it on you! Brake fluide works very well but leaves you with a disposal problem.
C. I use enamels (Model Master and Humbrol) for the majority of my painting and for the past 20 or so years have used DuPonts 3812S enamel reducer very successfully. It is sold in quart and gallon cans. I buy the gallon size - cost 18 to 20 bucks a gallon. But a gallon will last me up to a year and a half.

And lastly I would like to make a comment on the use of a respirator while airbrushing. I've seen some statements on this forum to the effect that "If I'm spraying enamels or laquers I always wear a mask" and "I only use acrylics so I don't need a respirator" I personally believe that these people are wrong. No matter what I am spraying, I wear a respirator. Never mind that acrylics are not near as damaging to your lungs, they are a foreign material and your lungs are not designed to be coated with a foreign material. I also wear a respirator when sanding paint or resin coated objects. In fact if I have any question in my mind whether I should be wearing a respirator while doing something, I wear the respirator. (Sometimes you have to learn the hard way - I worked for 35 years around radial engines and big bore rifles without using ear protection - now I've lost about 75% of my hi freq hearing in my right ear and 40% in my left - just because I didn't take precautions early on) Sorry about the rant, but to me there are very very few things in the world (and especially in a hobby) that are worth damaging your health and well being for.
Quincy
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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, October 1, 2004 10:41 AM
midnightprowler, i see u are on this forum too LOL
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