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A question about WWII German Machine Gun Teams

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A question about WWII German Machine Gun Teams
Posted by smeagol the vile on Monday, August 23, 2010 10:18 AM

Long title I know, but I was wondering if anyone could give me some information I do not have in my library.

For dug in German MG teams, not bunkers, but improvised nests or buildings, how many people crewed the gun?  One for the gun one for ammo?

Did they keep a soldier or two there to help guard the flanks?  How far from a large group of troops did they keep them stationed, ie did they keep them dug in while the troops moved other placed? like, is that scene from saving private ryan true where they ran into the nest under the radar station that wasn't guarded except for the crewmen?

 

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Posted by Bish on Monday, August 23, 2010 10:21 AM

I assume you mean the HMG teams which mounted the gun on a tripod. For these its 5. One carried the gun, one the tripod and the other 3 the ammo. A few companies including Tamiya and dragon do 5 men HMG teams in 1/35th.

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Monday, August 23, 2010 10:25 AM

yea HMG, like a tripod mounted Mg42. 

So even after it has been emplaced for a while the 5 men would stick with the gun?

Would they all be armed the same as a rifleman would be, gun ammo etc?

 

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Posted by Bish on Monday, August 23, 2010 10:33 AM

The 3 ammo carriers would have rifle's, and i guess if they needed more ammo one or more would go off to get it. The gunner and the No 2, the guy carring the tripod, would i should imagine carry pistols. I know in one of the Tamiya sets, one of the 3 ammo carriers is depicted as the commander and carriers an MP 40, in effect leaving 2 ammo carriers, and that would also be possable as these would be used for longer range, so someone to spot targets would be useful.

The 3 guys who dont man the weapon would stay close and provide close protection unless they were off getting ammo.

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Posted by Grumman Iron Works on Sunday, September 5, 2010 8:53 AM

I read a book not too long ago by a German MG34/MG42 LMG gunner.  He began as an assistant gunner and then rose to gunner.  He served on the eastern front and in the Vosges area.  I seem to recall that he might have been SS.  Anyway, he was always at platoon level, which, I believe differed from the HMG teams in that the latter were attached at higher levels in the order.  He nearly always had an assistant gunner, whether trained or drawn from the platoon.  It should be noted that most members of the platoon carried extra mortar rounds or MG ammo belts or cans when fully supplied and moving to a new tactical location (that is, when they had enough extra ammo on hand).  When on assault, they carried only their personal weapons and ammo.

As with other armies, he often went out on patrols with a rifle in hand, even though he was considered a specialist.  The demands of limited manpower, I suppose.  It is interesting to note that every book I have ever read indicates that the German ground forces were always under strength after the war began.  Of course, this deficit worsened as the war went on. 

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Posted by JTRACING on Sunday, September 5, 2010 8:56 AM

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Posted by smeagol the vile on Monday, September 6, 2010 7:31 PM

I have another question!!!

I should just make a 'smeagol has a question' thread.

Would individual units carry maps of the area?  Would a map of the place be general issue for troops?

 

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