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What is the name of the new FUTURE ?

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What is the name of the new FUTURE ?
Posted by Bob D on Monday, December 27, 2021 12:25 PM

New Future name ?

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Posted by gregbale on Monday, December 27, 2021 12:42 PM

Believe it's currently "Pledge Revive-It Floor Gloss --Original--"...unless they've changed the name again.

Was formerly known as Pledge FloorCare Multi-Surface Finish, originally known as Future,

Greg

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Posted by disastermaster on Tuesday, December 28, 2021 4:17 PM

The real future is in the past.

 

 

 

 
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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Tuesday, December 28, 2021 4:54 PM

Dark Helmet: So when will then be now?

Colonel Sanders: Soon.

My input on the question is that I'm pretty much in the same camp as people who say "Future is for floors".  Much better alternatives available these days.

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Posted by JohnnyK on Thursday, December 30, 2021 2:03 PM

I am not sure what you are planning to do with Future (whatever it's current name is), but I advise caution.

A number of years ago I used it as a clear coat. The Future micro-cracked after it cured. I think that the red paint was not fully cured when I applied the Future.

Your comments and questions are always welcome.

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Posted by Greg on Thursday, December 30, 2021 2:46 PM

disastermaster

The real future is in the past.

 

That's clever. :)

And +1

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Posted by disastermaster on Thursday, December 30, 2021 3:32 PM

Greg

 disastermaster

The real future is in the past.

 

 That's clever. :)

And +1

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Posted by Greg on Thursday, December 30, 2021 5:10 PM

You're welcome. Smile

 

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Posted by the Baron on Wednesday, January 19, 2022 8:56 AM

JohnnyK

I am not sure what you are planning to do with Future (whatever it's current name is), but I advise caution....A number of years ago I used it as a clear coat. The Future micro-cracked after it cured. I think that the red paint was not fully cured when I applied the Future. 

If I may offer a clarification, that's a caution to make sure whatever paint is on the model's surface has cured, before applying Future-or any clear coat medium, for that matter.  It's not an issue with Future itself.  As far as I can tell, from using Future as a gloss coat since the mid-90s, Future is inert and doesn't react with paint underneath it.  I use it regularly over water- and alcohol-based acrylics, over enamels, and sometimes over lacquers, too.

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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Wednesday, January 19, 2022 10:35 AM

the Baron
If I may offer a clarification, that's a caution to make sure whatever paint is on the model's surface has cured, before applying Future-or any clear coat medium, for that matter.  It's not an issue with Future itself.  As far as I can tell, from using Future as a gloss coat since the mid-90s, Future is inert and doesn't react with paint underneath it.  I use it regularly over water- and alcohol-based acrylics, over enamels, and sometimes over lacquers, too.

I tried using the new Future (Pledge Floor Care, I think) a few years ago when I was just starting my recently completed F-16CJ build.  I airbrushed it onto the parts of the main gear well that I had airbrushed with Tamiya X-2.  Due to issues with spare time at that point, that Tamiya X-2 had a little over 3 weeks to cure before I put the Future on it...and a week or two later, I could see under bright light that the coat of Future had developed a nasty spider web of cracks in it.  It may be due to the "newer" formulation of Future, but it cracks, even on fully-cured paint.  The newer formulation has also proven to react badly with Bob Dively's Liquid Mask on canopies.  I ended up having to use Novus to polish all of the crazed Future off of my nicely-painted canopy, and ended up finding out that nothing looks better than a canopy that has been polished with Novus.

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Posted by KD8FQM on Saturday, December 3, 2022 7:03 PM

Eaglecash867

Dark Helmet: So when will then be now?

Colonel Sanders: Soon.

My input on the question is that I'm pretty much in the same camp as people who say "Future is for floors".  Much better alternatives available these days.

 

Now that Pledge Floor Gloss (nee Future) has been discontinued, what are the " much better alternatives "?

 

Robert Carr

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Posted by the Baron on Monday, December 5, 2022 1:30 PM

KD8FQM
 
Eaglecash867

...My input on the question is that I'm pretty much in the same camp as people who say "Future is for floors".  Much better alternatives available these days. 

Now that Pledge Floor Gloss (nee Future) has been discontinued, what are the " much better alternatives "? 

Robert Carr 

Pretty much every maker of paints and other products for scale modeling makes a gloss coat product (and a matte coat product).  Off the top of my head, I think of Tamiya's X-22:

https://www.tamiyausa.com/shop/acrylic-paint-23ml/acrylic-x-22-clear/

and Vallejo (don't have a link handy).  I don't use either one, so I can't speak to their quality.  I'm sure others will have their own suggestions.

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Posted by Eaglecash867 on Monday, December 5, 2022 2:27 PM

KD8FQM
Now that Pledge Floor Gloss (nee Future) has been discontinued, what are the " much better alternatives "?   Robert Carr

Personally, I'm a big fan of all 4 of the different clearcoats made by MRP.  In cases of clear-coating NMF such as Alclad, AK Interactive makes Gauzy Agent Shine Enhancer.  It doesn't react badly with Alclad like many other clearcoats do.  For canopies, I don't believe in dipping them in acrylic like many do.  To me, it looks like crap.  I prefer to use Novus and polish my canopies for optical clarity.  The Pledge Floor Care I have left does have its uses though.  It makes the best adhesive for photo etch parts that aren't being edge-mounted, and also makes the best adhesive for small, clear parts such as HUD glass.  I know people swear by PVA glues for that kind of thing, but theres no comparison when it comes to being completely invisible.  I imagine the Gauzy Agent Shine Enhancer I mentioned would also make a great adhesive for those applications.

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Posted by the Baron on Tuesday, December 6, 2022 10:17 AM

Yes

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