I've been seeing the same Error Msg quite often-no pattern though.....I can get the Error Msg, go back a step, retry and all is well.

It has been particularly bad this morning, sometimes needing a dozen or so "refresh" clicks to get anywhere.

This is as bad as I've ever experienced. It took 22 refreshes to get to the point where I could post this.

Yikes! I hope it's not like this all weekend!!

It is so frustrating...

Whatever, the FSM overlords had to be badgered repeatedly for 2 months before they finally deigned to say something to the community at large. This site is junk. I'll say it again, I don't care about the font size or the color or the adds. I care that this place is way too bulky now. All the error messages, etc. This is supposed to be easy.

"LOL, we got 44k plus registered members, we can't keep them all happy"

Yeah, parse out all the ones who registered and haven't posted, ever, and the ones with like 2 posts, and you have maybe 50 or so dedicated members and they ain't happy.

Firesmacker, I'd quote your post for Truth, except it keeps getting that stupid error!

I have gone out of my way to try and help people find their way around the new forum in the vain hope that people wouldn't get PO'd and leave, but this is nuts. It takes me an average of 8 refreshes to get onto a thread to post.

I used to be able to come here and open 20 different threads, and now I'm afraid to open one at a time.

bobbaily

I've been seeing the same Error Msg quite often-no pattern though.....I can get the Error Msg, go back a step, retry and all is well.

No, it's not "well", not well at all. You shouldn't have to do that to access a thread.

This is like an old 67 Barracuda I used to have, first the voltage regulator would blow, and I'd replace that, than the ignition resister would blow, and I'd replace that, then the voltage regulator would go again. I got to the point where I was replacing the fuse wires in the regulator myself, and I kept spares of both parts on hand at all times. I could change them in the dark, and often did! No matter how much I loved that car, and I did, it was such a pain in the @ss that I sold it off.

I am a forum addict, I belong to five that I visit on a regular basis and all but one has changed forum software in the past couple or three years and not one has had the issues this past one has had. I'm beginning to suspect that it's a hardware issue, and not software. It's painful and beyond frustrating!

As a bonus, I've also been getting the old HTTP: 500 Server internal error quite frequently as well  It's either that or the out of memory error.

Same here...

Took almost a half an hour to get onto the site.  However much they paid for this "New and Improved" site, they got skrewed LOL.

yeah, me too. In fact I hadn'tseen anyone complaining about this. lately   ..But the Forum works about as often as it doesnt work, from here. So half the time it's NOT WoRKING. The new forum is NO improvement, despite all the attempts to make it work, it's 9 kinds of hassle. An IT friend confirms that if the hardware wasn't updated at the time the new Forum software was installed, we will have this problem forever getting worse!

Yeah Bill,

The memory thing I brought up once.

This is that post I referred to earlier. About the deletion of posts. You had said that it might of been because it was vicious in content and auto replied.

Well my title of that post was "Fire the Boss".  and the other was something about $$$$ for nothing.

Both posts were deleted and it was explained to me,, that was how they kept track of things..?

I do not know crap about these comp things. I took Megans' word as all is good.??

Dr

*INDY

An IT friend confirms that if the hardware wasn't updated at the time the new Forum software was installed, we will have this problem forever getting worse!

This is what I fear about hardware being the issue. My guess (and I'm no expert) is that the database is getting messed up. That's why Search is dead, and checking on our recent posts seems impossible. And if the database is skewered, then even going back won't be fixing the problem. I haven't had an issue with the memory in the past bit, but I suspect the weekend will be a long one full of problems.

Dr. Faust

Yeah Bill,

The memory thing I brought up once.

This is that post I referred to earlier. About the deletion of posts. You had said that it might of been because it was vicious in content and auto replied.

Well my title of that post was "Fire the Boss".  and the other was something about $$$$ for nothing.

Both posts were deleted and it was explained to me,, that was how they kept track of things..?

I do not know crap about these comp things. I took Megans' word as all is good.??

Dr

Doc, I should have been clearer when I said abusive. I had seen the "Fire the Boss" one and figured that the "Boss" would take it the wrong way. I was going to say something at the time, and then thought time heals all wounds. It's in the past, and I don't dwell on the past.

Megan is no expert on forums. That isn't what she has been trained on. She's struggling to set things right, but I suspect that they don't have a full-time IT guy at FSM to work on the problems. She's doing the best she can. I just hope they can get it sorted out before too many more people bug off.

Bgrigg

 

bobbaily:

 

I've been seeing the same Error Msg quite often-no pattern though.....I can get the Error Msg, go back a step, retry and all is well.

 

 

No, it's not "well", not well at all. You shouldn't have to do that to access a thread.

This is like an old 67 Barracuda I used to have, first the voltage regulator would blow, and I'd replace that, than the ignition resister would blow, and I'd replace that, then the voltage regulator would go again. I got to the point where I was replacing the fuse wires in the regulator myself, and I kept spares of both parts on hand at all times. I could change them in the dark, and often did! No matter how much I loved that car, and I did, it was such a pain in the @ss that I sold it off.

I am a forum addict, I belong to five that I visit on a regular basis and all but one has changed forum software in the past couple or three years and not one has had the issues this past one has had. I'm beginning to suspect that it's a hardware issue, and not software. It's painful and beyond frustrating!

Ok, maybe "all is well" wasn't the best way to phrase it......I'm not a heavy forum user...and I agree...it gets frustrating to get the error msg, have to go back and try again.

I have to agree with the group here-there are some issues that need to be addressed in the software/hardware.....things aren't going to get better by themselves.

I just got that same message several times as well Bill.

I still think this software was designed by AOL.

Gentlemen,

I'd say it is time to 'start the revolution'.  Now before I go on, please understand that I know FSM has been 'working on the problem', but so far, I don't see much in the way of results.  I still feel like many of our comments in the public forum are ignored.  How many posts do you see put up be memberrs pointing out problems or glitches and the only responses come from other forum members, and not any one at FSM to at least say, 'Hey thanks for the heads up.'

The only way to get the attention and action of FSM (or Kalmbach or whomever is really running this thing (Big brother??)) is, in my opinion, to take the 'fight' directly to them.  My suggestion is to start sending these issues as PMs to Matt or Aaron.  At the same time, I'd post in the public part of the forum what you had done and when.  Maybe a landslide of PMs and public attention will spur them to greater action.  Maybe they just need to realize the volume of our frustration.  Five, ten, fifteen PMs a week might get their attention.  Maybe not.  Maybe I am wrong headed in all of this, but to me what we have been doing does not seem to be getting us anywhere...

They made the decision to change this forum.  THEY told us it would be better.  They need to be held accountable and deliver on what they promised.  This new forum is a sad replacement for the old, the features do not work as advertised.  We can either vote with our feet and go to another forum or hold the representatives of FSM accountable.

bbrowniii

Gentlemen,

I'd say it is time to 'start the revolution'.  Now before I go on, please understand that I know FSM has been 'working on the problem', but so far, I don't see much in the way of results.  I still feel like many of our comments in the public forum are ignored.  How many posts do you see put up be memberrs pointing out problems or glitches and the only responses come from other forum members, and not any one at FSM to at least say, 'Hey thanks for the heads up.'

The only way to get the attention and action of FSM (or Kalmbach or whomever is really running this thing (Big brother??)) is, in my opinion, to take the 'fight' directly to them.  My suggestion is to start sending these issues as PMs to Matt or Aaron.  At the same time, I'd post in the public part of the forum what you had done and when.  Maybe a landslide of PMs and public attention will spur them to greater action.  Maybe they just need to realize the volume of our frustration.  Five, ten, fifteen PMs a week might get their attention.  Maybe not.  Maybe I am wrong headed in all of this, but to me what we have been doing does not seem to be getting us anywhere...

They made the decision to change this forum.  THEY told us it would be better.  They need to be held accountable and deliver on what they promised.  This new forum is a sad replacement for the old, the features do not work as advertised.  We can either vote with our feet and go to another forum or hold the representatives of FSM accountable.

Preach it Gunny!

Agreed. I don't think anyone here can argue that I haven't preached patience and understanding, and it's starting to TICK ME OFF!

MikeV

I still think this software was designed by AOL.

Have you been to AOL recently? It's WORKING a whole lot better than this place!

Bgrigg

 

MikeV:

 

I still think this software was designed by AOL.

 

 

Have you been to AOL recently? It's WORKING a whole lot better than this place!

Really? Then Hell really did freeze over!

Yeah, I've been asking to revert to the "old " Forum layout from day one and  I still do !

Nothing has been an improvement of any worth, the site is slower,less-organized and harder to look at----and completely  unusable half the time   I like alot of the members here, so it's sad, but other Forums put this one to shame.   Sorry to Megan, really I am, I know it's been a ton of hard work, but it's time to give in and go back.

Bgrigg

Agreed. I don't think anyone here can argue that I haven't preached patience and understanding, and it's starting to TICK ME OFF!

I think you are right Bill.  You have helped me numerous times since the changeover, when I was VERY irritated with something that wasn't working properly.  Without your help and the assistance of a few other forum members, I might have walked away.  But I have stayed because of people here like you.  And many others too.  In fact, the ONLY reason I am still here is because of the forum members.  I have lost a few friends here due the new format and the way those members were treated for expressing their dissatisfaction with it.  That I will not forget.  I PM'ed conversationed (?) a couple of the mods over a month ago when this first went down, and have yet to receive a single reply.

I don't pretend to know anything about marketing, I'm just a broken-down old Navy firefighter. If my computer bursts into flames, I'm all over it.  But, I think I understand things that advertisers look at. Things like web-traffic/how long people stay on a site. Yeah, the advertisements(which don't bother me in the least) may not be an issue before too long...

The sad part for me is, I don't even have the slightest interest in being past of this community anymore. I just finished a Tamiya A6M5 and am working on a Eduard Hellcat MK.I and don't think its worth the effort to try and post my progress and get feedback from my friends here.

I'm not going to name names because I would end up leaving someone out (except Frank. my man) Everyone else, hopefully this will get sorted out.

I've noticed that I haven't received the System.OutOfMemoryException msg for a day or two...am I the only one?

I had one (and only one) this morning, none yesterday.

The situation seems to have improved since around Friday

It's back....

In amongst the "out of memory exception" errors, I did hit another variation..

Just in case the mods are following this thread, you might want to pass this one on to the IT guys.

Description: An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the current web request. Please review the stack trace for more information about the error and where it originated in the code.

Exception Details: System.Exception: Could not load Kalmbach.Ars config file - System.Configuration.ConfigurationErrorsException: An error occurred loading a configuration file: Exception of type 'System.OutOfMemoryException' was thrown. (E:\CommunityServer\FSM\FSMCS\AppSettings.config) ---> System.OutOfMemoryException: Exception of type 'System.OutOfMemoryException' was thrown.
  at System.String.GetStringForStringBuilder(String value, Int32 startIndex, Int32 length, Int32 capacity)
  at System.Text.StringBuilder.GetNewString(String currentString, Int32 requiredLength)
  at System.Text.StringBuilder.Append(Char value)
  at System.IO.StringWriter.Write(Char value)
  at System.Configuration.XmlUtilWriter.AppendEscapeXmlString(String s, Boolean inAttribute, Char quoteChar)
  at System.Configuration.XmlUtilWriter.AppendAttributeValue(XmlTextReader reader)
  at System.Configuration.XmlUtil.CopyXmlNode(XmlUtilWriter utilWriter)
  at System.Configuration.XmlUtil.CopyElement(XmlUtilWriter utilWriter)
  at System.Configuration.XmlUtil.CopySection()
  at System.Configuration.BaseConfigurationRecord.LoadConfigSource(String name, SectionXmlInfo sectionXmlInfo)
  at System.Configuration.BaseConfigurationRecord.GetSectionXmlReader(String[] keys, SectionInput input)
  --- End of inner exception stack trace ---
  at System.Configuration.BaseConfigurationRecord.EvaluateOne(String[] keys, SectionInput input, Boolean isTrusted, FactoryRecord factoryRecord, SectionRecord sectionRecord, Object parentResult)
  at System.Configuration.BaseConfigurationRecord.Evaluate(FactoryRecord factoryRecord, SectionRecord sectionRecord, Object parentResult, Boolean getLkg, Boolean getRuntimeObject, Object& result, Object& resultRuntimeObject)
  at System.Configuration.BaseConfigurationRecord.GetSectionRecursive(String configKey, Boolean getLkg, Boolean checkPermission, Boolean getRuntimeObject, Boolean requestIsHere, Object& result, Object& resultRuntimeObject)
  at System.Configuration.BaseConfigurationRecord.GetSection(String configKey, Boolean getLkg, Boolean checkPermission)
  at System.Configuration.BaseConfigurationRecord.GetSection(String configKey)
  at System.Web.HttpContext.GetSection(String sectionName)
  at System.Web.Configuration.HttpConfigurationSystem.GetSection(String sectionName)
  at System.Web.Configuration.HttpConfigurationSystem.System.Configuration.Internal.IInternalConfigSystem.GetSection(String configKey)
  at System.Configuration.ConfigurationManager.GetSection(String sectionName)
  at System.Configuration.ConfigurationManager.get_AppSettings()
  at Kalmbach.Ars.Configuration.getConfigValue(String path)

Source Error:

An unhandled exception was generated during the execution of the current web request. Information regarding the origin and location of the exception can be identified using the exception stack trace below.

Stack Trace:

[Exception: Could not load Kalmbach.Ars config file - System.Configuration.ConfigurationErrorsException: An error occurred loading a configuration file: Exception of type 'System.OutOfMemoryException' was thrown. (E:\CommunityServer\FSM\FSMCS\AppSettings.config) ---> System.OutOfMemoryException: Exception of type 'System.OutOfMemoryException' was thrown. at System.String.GetStringForStringBuilder(String value, Int32 startIndex, Int32 length, Int32 capacity) at System.Text.StringBuilder.GetNewString(String currentString, Int32 requiredLength) at System.Text.StringBuilder.Append(Char value) at System.IO.StringWriter.Write(Char value) at System.Configuration.XmlUtilWriter.AppendEscapeXmlString(String s, Boolean inAttribute, Char quoteChar) at System.Configuration.XmlUtilWriter.AppendAttributeValue(XmlTextReader reader) at System.Configuration.XmlUtil.CopyXmlNode(XmlUtilWriter utilWriter) at System.Configuration.XmlUtil.CopyElement(XmlUtilWriter utilWriter) at System.Configuration.XmlUtil.CopySection() at System.Configuration.BaseConfigurationRecord.LoadConfigSource(String name, SectionXmlInfo sectionXmlInfo) at System.Configuration.BaseConfigurationRecord.GetSectionXmlReader(String[] keys, SectionInput input) --- End of inner exception stack trace --- at System.Configuration.BaseConfigurationRecord.EvaluateOne(String[] keys, SectionInput input, Boolean isTrusted, FactoryRecord factoryRecord, SectionRecord sectionRecord, Object parentResult) at System.Configuration.BaseConfigurationRecord.Evaluate(FactoryRecord factoryRecord, SectionRecord sectionRecord, Object parentResult, Boolean getLkg, Boolean getRuntimeObject, Object& result, Object& resultRuntimeObject) at System.Configuration.BaseConfigurationRecord.GetSectionRecursive(String configKey, Boolean getLkg, Boolean checkPermission, Boolean getRuntimeObject, Boolean requestIsHere, Object& result, Object& resultRuntimeObject) at System.Configuration.BaseConfigurationRecord.GetSection(String configKey, Boolean getLkg, Boolean checkPermission) at System.Configuration.BaseConfigurationRecord.GetSection(String configKey) at System.Web.HttpContext.GetSection(String sectionName) at System.Web.Configuration.HttpConfigurationSystem.GetSection(String sectionName) at System.Web.Configuration.HttpConfigurationSystem.System.Configuration.Internal.IInternalConfigSystem.GetSection(String configKey) at System.Configuration.ConfigurationManager.GetSection(String sectionName) at System.Configuration.ConfigurationManager.get_AppSettings() at Kalmbach.Ars.Configuration.getConfigValue(String path)] Kalmbach.Ars.Configuration.getConfigValue(String path) +311 Kalmbach.Ars.Configuration.get_CookieName() +37 Kalmbach.Ars.AuthenticationModule.application_AcquireRequestState(Object sender, EventArgs e) +128 System.Web.SyncEventExecutionStep.System.Web.HttpApplication.IExecutionStep.Execute() +68 System.Web.HttpApplication.ExecuteStep(IExecutionStep step, Boolean& completedSynchronously) +75

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Version Information: Microsoft .NET Framework Version:2.0.50727.3603; ASP.NET Version:2.0.50727.3082

Server Error in '' Application.

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Could not load Kalmbach.Ars config file - System.Configuration.ConfigurationErrorsException: An error occurred loading a configuration file: Exception of type 'System.OutOfMemoryException' was thrown. (E:\CommunityServer\FSM\FSMCS\AppSettings.config) ---> System.OutOfMemoryException: Exception of type 'System.OutOfMemoryException' was thrown.
  at System.String.GetStringForStringBuilder(String value, Int32 startIndex, Int32 length, Int32 capacity)
  at System.Text.StringBuilder.GetNewString(String currentString, Int32 requiredLength)
  at System.Text.StringBuilder.Append(Char value)
  at System.IO.StringWriter.Write(Char value)
  at System.Configuration.XmlUtilWriter.AppendEscapeXmlString(String s, Boolean inAttribute, Char quoteChar)
  at System.Configuration.XmlUtilWriter.AppendAttributeValue(XmlTextReader reader)
  at System.Configuration.XmlUtil.CopyXmlNode(XmlUtilWriter utilWriter)
  at System.Configuration.XmlUtil.CopyElement(XmlUtilWriter utilWriter)
  at System.Configuration.XmlUtil.CopySection()
  at System.Configuration.BaseConfigurationRecord.LoadConfigSource(String name, SectionXmlInfo sectionXmlInfo)
  at System.Configuration.BaseConfigurationRecord.GetSectionXmlReader(String[] keys, SectionInput input)
  --- End of inner exception stack trace ---
  at System.Configuration.BaseConfigurationRecord.EvaluateOne(String[] keys, SectionInput input, Boolean isTrusted, FactoryRecord factoryRecord, SectionRecord sectionRecord, Object parentResult)
  at System.Configuration.BaseConfigurationRecord.Evaluate(FactoryRecord factoryRecord, SectionRecord sectionRecord, Object parentResult, Boolean getLkg, Boolean getRuntimeObject, Object& result, Object& resultRuntimeObject)
  at System.Configuration.BaseConfigurationRecord.GetSectionRecursive(String configKey, Boolean getLkg, Boolean checkPermission, Boolean getRuntimeObject, Boolean requestIsHere, Object& result, Object& resultRuntimeObject)
  at System.Configuration.BaseConfigurationRecord.GetSection(String configKey, Boolean getLkg, Boolean checkPermission)
  at System.Configuration.BaseConfigurationRecord.GetSection(String configKey)
  at System.Web.HttpContext.GetSection(String sectionName)
  at System.Web.Configuration.HttpConfigurationSystem.GetSection(String sectionName)
  at System.Web.Configuration.HttpConfigurationSystem.System.Configuration.Internal.IInternalConfigSystem.GetSection(String configKey)
  at System.Configuration.ConfigurationManager.GetSection(String sectionName)
  at System.Configuration.ConfigurationManager.get_AppSettings()
  at Kalmbach.Ars.Configuration.getConfigValue(String path)

ROFLMAO...

Trying to get to this page I timed out, refresh gave the system error twice then it crashed my explorer page by shoving it a hole not even navigating to another page would go anywhere, forcing me to shut it then reopen to get back to the forums pages to try again.

Same here, it simply stopped responding at all. Closed and reopened browser and it came good. (about 15 mins ago)