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have never dropped flaps on a model. would appericate any help . thx.

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  • From: Chantilly, Virginia
Posted by CNicoll on Sunday, January 17, 2016 10:11 AM

I have a lot of pics of BBD having just completed the Tamiya kit and using a couple different aftermarket decal sets.  If you are interested in the photos, let me know.

Big Beautiful Doll in flight

Note the alerions are both dropped, which should not be the case on a real aircraft.  They were just loose on the model.  I've since fixed that.

BBD

On the bench:  Academy 1/72 B-17G 'Blue Hen Chick';  1/48 Tamiya Mustang III; Kitty Hawk 1/32 P-39. 

Completed:  1/48 Tamiya P-51D Mustang - 'Show Bird', 1/32 Dragon P-51D  Flying Tigers 'What if'; 1/32 Tamiya P-51D Big Beautiful Doll

Group build:1/48 Tamiya Mustang III; 1/48 Tamiya P-51D Show Bird

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Posted by tankerbuilder on Sunday, January 17, 2016 5:54 AM

Hi Ardvark !

 Welcome to our forums . Everyone is right about going to the Aircraft thread . I will say Fermis gave a nice short and precise tutorial though .    T.B.

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  • From: hamburg michigan
Posted by fermis on Friday, January 15, 2016 6:35 PM

ardvark
hi. thx for your feedback. the kit is airfix 1/24th p-51d "big beautiful doll" most all pics i found, when parked flaps are dropped. i try my best to do lots of reasearch when building. did lots of building yrs. back, then " stalled" since i retired have renewed intrest, and am lovin it . thanks again.
 

Yes, the P-51's flaps would drop as hyd pressure bled off...as well as the main gear doors (big inner ones) which would go back up after the gears came down. Either way (up-down) is not out of the realm of possibility.

 I did the big Airfix 51 as well...back when Squadron had em for $20!!! (97-98-ish) I stuck a little motor, from Radio Shack, up front and mounted it on the included stand. Nowadays, it hangs from the ceiling...can't part with it, just yet!

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  • From: Atlanta Metro, Georgia
Posted by fright on Friday, January 15, 2016 4:38 PM

Hello and a good 2016. New to this site, even though I registered almost 3 years ago! My father-in-law was in the sub service and purchased this kit for himself. Unfortunately, he passed away and never opened it. I thought I would build this model in his honor. I started the build in 2012 but finally finished my 1st model build in November 2015 of Revell's 1:72 scale submarine. I did not use any PE parts but I added WEM crew members to the sail. I used .011 guage guitar string for my railings and communication wire instead of supplied thread. I drilled missing exhaust holes into the body of the model. I also tried my hand at weathering and I think it turned out rather well. I learned a lot about submarines, the crews aboard these vessels and modeling techniques. I looked at many a photo to get an idea of colr scheme and weathering of ships at sea, in particular the USS Crevalle 291 ( even though it was a Balao-type submarine). If I can ever figure out how to post pictures, I'll try to share them. I'm now trying a build of Trumpeter's SS John Brown Liberty ship. Cheers!!!

Robert O

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Posted by ardvark on Friday, January 15, 2016 12:01 PM
thx much for your welcome. have a question. how or where do i find the aircraft section, as this is my main intrest. pretty good with models but not so good with computers. lookin foward to commuicating with you in the future. thx again
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Posted by ardvark on Friday, January 15, 2016 11:52 AM
hi. thx for your feedback. the kit is airfix 1/24th p-51d "big beautiful doll" most all pics i found, when parked flaps are dropped. i try my best to do lots of reasearch when building. did lots of building yrs. back, then " stalled" since i retired have renewed intrest, and am lovin it . thanks again.
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    January 2016
Posted by ardvark on Friday, January 15, 2016 11:40 AM
hi thx for the response. between fermis's tip i feel much mor cofident cutting into my wings. the kit is airfix 1/24th p-51d . thx again.
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Posted by ardvark on Friday, January 15, 2016 11:32 AM
hi.i was pretty sure i had a fair idea,but your drawing confirmed this. very helpful and much appericated. i have had this kit on the shelf for 11yrs. it was missing clear parts. hard to build without them. finally got them from airfix., hence off shelf, on the bench. thx much. sure we,ll be commicating again. thx again.
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  • From: MN
Posted by Nathan T on Thursday, January 14, 2016 9:25 PM

Fermis's method is right on. You have to add the rounded leading edge the the flap part that was cut off. I cheat though and buy half round Sprue stock from Evergreen. 

 

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, January 14, 2016 6:14 PM

FJ_ hit it right. Any time this kind of thing is planned, do find references.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

fox
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Posted by fox on Thursday, January 14, 2016 6:10 PM

Welcome to the Forums!  Glad to have you aboard!

Jim  Captain

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   On the Bench: Artesania Latina  (aka) Artists in the Latrine 1/75 Bluenose II

I keep hitting "escape", but I'm still here.

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Posted by 5-high on Thursday, January 14, 2016 3:05 PM

Welcome to the forum. .Welcome Sign

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Posted by Tojo72 on Thursday, January 14, 2016 1:03 PM
Your in the introduction section,so welcome aboard.

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Thursday, January 14, 2016 12:53 PM

Welcome to the Forums, ardvark!

Nice tutorial, fermis!

 

 

 

 

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  • From: hamburg michigan
Posted by fermis on Thursday, January 14, 2016 11:04 AM

Welcome!

I scratchbuild flaps quite a bit. It really is pretty easy! Here's a diagram I draw up for another guy...

I do rudders and elevators the same way. 

The results...

 

Then, there's the other style flap...(this one was "invented"...couldn't find any good ref pics, but looks "logical" at least!). Being that this one is 32nd scale, I just used sheet styrene. When I do this in 72nd, I'll use aluminum(pop can).

 

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  • From: Green Bay, WI USA
Posted by echolmberg on Thursday, January 14, 2016 10:53 AM

Welcome Ardvark!

Like Modelcrazy mentioned, post this question in the Aircraft section and you'll get tons of responses.  Dropping flaps can be a tricky thing but it all depends on the aircraft.  Some flaps were simple hinges while others may have been the complicated Fowler flap system.

If it's a matter of a simple hinge system, what I've done in in the past is take some sewing thread and basically use it like a saw to make cuts on the left and right side of the flap.  You'll be AMAZED at how fast simple thread cuts right through the plastic!  Then I take an Xacto knife (or a panel scriber) and I score the hinge on the underside of the wing.  When I've scored a nice enough channel, I then gently bend the flap downward and set it with superglue.

Also, depending on the kit, it just be one that comes with separate flaps such as Tamiya's P-51 or Monogram's P-61 as examples.  I like it when they give us the flaps as separate parts!

Eric

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Posted by ardvark on Thursday, January 14, 2016 10:32 AM
airfix 1/24th p-51 big beatuiful doll.
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Posted by modelcrazy on Thursday, January 14, 2016 9:42 AM

Welcome to to forums Ardvark.  Welcome Sign You will get more responces to your question if you post it in the Aircraft section. What kit is it?

Steve

Building a kit from your stash is like cutting a head off a Hydra, two more take it's place.

 

 

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have never dropped flaps on a model. would appericate any help . thx.
Posted by ardvark on Wednesday, January 13, 2016 7:10 PM

i have never lowered fixed flaps on an aircraft. wish to but am not really sure how to. i would really appericate any help anyone can give me. i hope this goes out,good with models, but bad with computers. been lookin at readers gallery, lots of great work out there , hope i can contribute something. i built from the time i was a kid. had down time but always went back. now that i'm retired have a renewed intrested. aircraft most, but open to all. hope to hear from this community. 

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