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This morning at the FSM offices ...
Posted by Tim Kidwell on Thursday, January 24, 2013 10:39 AM

Aaron and I had a discussion about assembling a Bussard collector on an upcoming review model he is lighting, and then ...

Aaron: They give you the option to light the nacelles. But I'm not going to.

Tim: Why not? You should.

Aaron: It's not canon.

Tim [rolls eyes]: But it will be cool.

Aaron: It's not canon. That would be like putting missiles on an X-wing.

Tim: Now that's just silly and stupid.

Aaron: I believe I've made my point.

[Tim steals tiny, essential part to said model and holds it for ransom]

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Posted by subfixer on Thursday, January 24, 2013 11:53 AM

Bussard collector. Isn't that for gathering hydrogen?

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Thursday, January 24, 2013 11:55 AM

Dammit, Subfixer! I'm an editor, not a scientist!

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Posted by checkmateking02 on Thursday, January 24, 2013 12:01 PM

Qapla!

 

 

 

 

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Posted by subfixer on Thursday, January 24, 2013 12:03 PM

Now we're speaking Klingon!

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Thursday, January 24, 2013 12:04 PM

Guess who's coming to dinner ...

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Posted by dirkpitt77 on Thursday, January 24, 2013 12:11 PM

I think Tim secretly engineered the creation of the Ready Room just because he's been dying to post up on office hijinks like this.    Cool

    "Some say the alien didn't die in the crash.  It survived and drank whiskey and played poker with the locals 'til the Texas Rangers caught wind of it and shot it dead."

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Thursday, January 24, 2013 1:12 PM

dirkpitt77

I think Tim secretly engineered the creation of the Ready Room just because he's been dying to post up on office hijinks like this.    Cool

Me? Oh, no no no. <twirls extraordinarily long, waxed mustache made of emu hair and attached with Gorilla Glue>

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, January 24, 2013 1:15 PM

Um, don't emus have feathers instead of hair?

And I think it depends on the situation if the Bussard Collectors light up or not - if you're cruising at Warp 5.1495 on a Thursday they do light up - otherwise no... 

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Posted by CrashTestDummy on Thursday, January 24, 2013 1:19 PM

Hair-like feathers, but they look like a wet cat when you apply the mustache wax!  :-)

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, January 24, 2013 1:22 PM

Thanks Gene, saw one at a zoo last fall but I really didn't want to get too close to a critter that could disembowel me with one kick to look too closely...  

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Thursday, January 24, 2013 1:39 PM

Gamera

Um, don't emus have feathers instead of hair?

That's why this thing looks so nasty! <pulls off fake mustache> Serves me right, buying villain accoutrements from the bargain bin at Evil Guys R Us.

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Posted by Aaron Skinner on Thursday, January 24, 2013 1:40 PM

Gamera

Um, don't emus have feathers instead of hair?

Indeed. And this would be why I'm building the Enterprise (without intercoolers lit), and why Tim isn't.

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Posted by dirkpitt77 on Thursday, January 24, 2013 3:50 PM

Tim Kidwell

That's why this thing looks so nasty! <pulls off fake mustache> Serves me right, buying villain accoutrements from the bargain bin at Evil Guys R Us.

  Your maniacal plan to build a droid army of blenders has been foiled!

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Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, January 24, 2013 6:29 PM

Tim Kidwell

Tim [rolls eyes]: But it will be cool.

Aaron: It's not canon. That would be like putting missiles on an X-wing.

Tim: Now that's just silly and stupid.

But the proton torpedoes sure behave like missiles instead of a beam type weapon....Hmm at least in the original...

 

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Posted by Phil_H on Thursday, January 24, 2013 10:45 PM

stikpusher

Tim Kidwell

Tim [rolls eyes]: But it will be cool.

Aaron: It's not canon. That would be like putting missiles on an X-wing.

Tim: Now that's just silly and stupid.

But the proton torpedoes sure behave like missiles instead of a beam type weapon....Hmm at least in the original...

Stik, IIRC, the Proton Torpedoes were carried internally - there are troughs in the lower fuselage sides for the launchers. I think he meant hanging weps under the wings ;)

PS: If we're talking about the Enterprise in TOS, (NCC-1701, no bl**dy A,B,C or D), depending on the time period and what shots you look at in the show, she could have had illuminated Bussard collectors. Certainly they weren't there at the start, but the 11 foot model was retrofitted with lights in the nacelle caps which rotated by way of a motor and slip-ring system. This can be seen in some episodes. Other shots were done with a 3-foot model which had solid (unlit) nacelle caps, so either can apply.

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Thursday, January 24, 2013 10:52 PM

Yes, but they're inside the Krupx MG7 torpedo launchers located under the cockpit inside the fuselage with a standard load of three torpedoes each, not slung under the wings. Of course, you can replace the proton torpedoes with concussion missiles, but they don't have the same oomph. Putting missiles under the wing's wouldn't be canon. Besides, the Incom T-65 has plenty of armament on the wings with four Taim & Bak KX9 laser cannons, which are canon, and thus Aaron's point, curse him.

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, January 25, 2013 1:40 AM

I know guys... just stirring the pot....Wink

I did not even mention photon torpedoes or the Romulan's plasma weapon from "Balance of Terror"... Or V'ger's plasma weapon...Hmm

"Propulsion unknown... guidance unknown..."

But the X Wing does carry missiles of a sort... internally...Geeked

Of course the Y-Wing is still my preferred fighter

 

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Posted by Aaron Skinner on Friday, January 25, 2013 8:52 AM

Phil_H

PS: If we're talking about the Enterprise in TOS, (NCC-1701, no bl**dy A,B,C or D), depending on the time period and what shots you look at in the show, she could have had illuminated Bussard collectors. Certainly they weren't there at the start, but the 11 foot model was retrofitted with lights in the nacelle caps which rotated by way of a motor and slip-ring system. This can be seen in some episodes. Other shots were done with a 3-foot model which had solid (unlit) nacelle caps, so either can apply.

We are talking about the TOS Enterprise. I'm definitely lighting the Bussard collectors on Polar Lights new kit (using PL's lighting set). The question of canon came up in relation to the vents mounted on the inside edge of the warp nacelles. PL gives you the option to light them because that was originally the plan but was omitted on the filming miniature to save costs. I am not going to light those or the impulse engines, also an option on the model, because I was aiming to be accurate to the 11' model as seen today at the Air and Space Museum.

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Posted by Aaron Skinner on Friday, January 25, 2013 8:54 AM

stikpusher

Of course the Y-Wing is still my preferred fighter

Stik,
The Y looks cool, but for sheer hitting power, I prefer the B-wing.
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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Friday, January 25, 2013 8:55 AM

Phil_H

PS: If we're talking about the Enterprise in TOS, (NCC-1701, no bl**dy A,B,C or D), depending on the time period and what shots you look at in the show, she could have had illuminated Bussard collectors. 

My God, Phil. What have you done? You dissed the A. 

And Aaron is lighting the Bussard collectors. It's the intercoolers he's crabbing about.

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Posted by Echo139er on Friday, January 25, 2013 2:54 PM

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Dammit, Subfixer! I'm an editor, not a scientist!

oooh... you said a bad word.  LOL

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Friday, January 25, 2013 3:01 PM

<stares into the hypnotic eyes of Doom Kitty>And I'll not take it back, no matter how big your eyes get. Blink, you infernal feline! BLINK!

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Posted by subfixer on Friday, January 25, 2013 3:20 PM

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Posted by Phil_H on Friday, January 25, 2013 6:04 PM

Aaron Skinner
We are talking about the TOS Enterprise. I'm definitely lighting the Bussard collectors on Polar Lights new kit (using PL's lighting set). The question of canon came up in relation to the vents mounted on the inside edge of the warp nacelles.

Ahh, I see, you're talking about the warp field emitters. Indeed, they were not lit. Smile

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My God, Phil. What have you done? You dissed the A.

And Aaron is lighting the Bussard collectors. It's the intercoolers he's crabbing about.

LOL Tim, No not dissing the "A" That was a quote from Scotty in the TNG episode "Relics" - He's on Holodeck of the Enterprise-D and asks the computer to show him the bridge of "his" Enterprise. The computer replies "There have been five Federation ships with that name. Please specify by registry number." to which Scotty replies N-C-C-1-7-0-1. No bl**dy A - B - C - or D!.

PS: The intercooler vents are another thing again - These are on the inside face of the pylons Wink

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Posted by tankerbuilder on Monday, January 28, 2013 8:13 AM

HI :

I am engaged in a construction project too .My " ENTERPRISE " is not going to have anything lit .I would rather be the one lit after a project like this one and the " SEAVIEW " hmmmmm , coffee's got brandy in it ! Will that help clean the cup ? HE . HE . HE .        Tanker-builder

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 8:39 AM

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LOL Tim, No not dissing the "A" That was a quote from Scotty in the TNG episode "Relics" - He's on Holodeck of the Enterprise-D and asks the computer to show him the bridge of "his" Enterprise. The computer replies "There have been five Federation ships with that name. Please specify by registry number." to which Scotty replies N-C-C-1-7-0-1. No bl**dy A - B - C - or D!.

I should have known!

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Posted by Tim Kidwell on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 8:40 AM

Aaron and I are shooting a series of new videos about photoetched-metal parts this morning. He gets to play with fire and I get to worry about his playing with fire.

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Posted by Aaron Skinner on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 8:43 AM

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Aaron and I are shooting a series of new videos about photoetched-metal parts this morning. He gets to play with fire and I get to worry about his playing with fire.

Fire pretty. So pretty.

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Posted by Buckeye on Wednesday, January 30, 2013 10:55 AM

Indifferent LOL

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