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America's Antique Planes Battling ISIS

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, March 12, 2016 12:28 AM

Mehh- I flew as cargo in a DC-3 with paratroop seats from Oahu to Hawaii, the big island.

With a chain gang.

Dad made friends with them, as he had a unique talent to be funny and a good story teller.

Later we drove down to their 'pen and he bought out the industry store of big beautiful koa wood bowls, and those stupid five foot long spoon and fork deals everyone in California had on their walls in the fifties. Got it all sent home with us on the 377.

Course it was a territory then.

Hey but biplanes disabled the Bismark so that the heavy cruisers and BB's could track her down, right?

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Posted by Archangel Shooter on Friday, March 11, 2016 5:29 PM

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Oh, lordy, does that make me feel old! I had been working for MDC for several years before the F-15 contract came in!

Shoot...I remember when the very first Marine AV-8A came to Cherry Point, later the pre-production F/A-18A was being shown off at Marine and Navy air bases. The Tomcat was just coming out. My era was Phantoms, Intruders, Skyhawks and Broncos and add in the Corsair II and Crusaders on the Navy side that was still flying. All great planes.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Friday, March 11, 2016 5:13 PM

Gamera

Yeah, same here, I guess the Bronco is about fifty years old but when I saw the word 'antique' I was thinking something more along the lines of a Curtiss Jenny! 

 

Geeez! That makes me older than a antique then!Indifferent

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Posted by Tojo72 on Friday, March 11, 2016 9:38 AM

The media is even worse with navel stuff,everything is a battleship.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Friday, March 11, 2016 8:48 AM

BlackSheepTwoOneFour

Pfffffttttt ..... Journalists.... even they don't know the difference between antique and classics. That's one of my biggest pet peeves from journalists.

 

Heck, too many of them don't even know what a propeller is.  So many pictures I have seen were aircraft labeled by the journalist as a jet, that clearly has propellers.  To journalists today, the word jet is a synonym for airplane.  The most common one is that great military jet transport, the C-130.

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Posted by goldhammer on Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:32 AM

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Phil_H

The "antique" label is somewhat amusing. In terms of first flight and entry into service, it's only 7 years older than the F-15.

How about that? The F-15 has been in service for 40 years.

 

 

 

Oh, lordy, does that make me feel old!  I had been working for MDC for several years before the F-15 contract came in!

 

 

Tell me about it.......I got out just before the 15's were starting to filter in.  The last ones I worked on were RF4's at Shaw.

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:10 AM

Pfffffttttt ..... Journalists.... even they don't know the difference between antique and classics. That's one of my biggest pet peeves from journalists.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Thursday, March 10, 2016 9:00 AM

Phil_H

The "antique" label is somewhat amusing. In terms of first flight and entry into service, it's only 7 years older than the F-15.

How about that? The F-15 has been in service for 40 years.

 

Oh, lordy, does that make me feel old!  I had been working for MDC for several years before the F-15 contract came in!

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Phil_H on Wednesday, March 9, 2016 4:32 PM

The "antique" label is somewhat amusing. In terms of first flight and entry into service, it's only 7 years older than the F-15.

How about that? The F-15 has been in service for 40 years.

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Posted by seastallion53 on Wednesday, March 9, 2016 3:42 PM

If it can do the job why not.

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Posted by goldhammer on Wednesday, March 9, 2016 2:47 PM

The last 52 came off the assembly line in what, 1963.  Yep been refurbished and upgraded many times.  But it would be safe to say that unless it happens to be SLEB (collar full of stars out for a joyride), all 52's are older than their crews, and there are several examples of fathers and sons flying the same tail number.  Probably some grandsons in that now as well.

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Posted by Putsie on Wednesday, March 9, 2016 2:00 PM

Aircraft are unique in age comparisons inspectiond and maintenance keep them going effectively much longer than cars

Most B-52's are older than their crews

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, March 9, 2016 12:54 PM

stikpusher

Classic yes, Antique no... at least not in my mind. OV-10s were used in Desert Storm for their last combat action. I want to say that they may have seen action in the 1989 Panama invasion as well IIRC.

 

Yes, I'd say classic or vintage- antique makes me think about biplanes... 

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, March 9, 2016 12:03 PM

BlackSheepTwoOneFour

I'm surprised they didn't use OV-1 Mohawks too.

 

The Army was the only service to use the OV-1. And the Air Force had a serious fit when the Army was using them armed with air to ground ordnance. Something they see as only their right to do in wartime. Interservice politics at its' worst. Yes, the OV-1 would be ideal as is the OV-10 for a cost effective forward deplyed CAS aircraft.

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, March 9, 2016 11:22 AM

Classic yes, Antique no... at least not in my mind. OV-10s were used in Desert Storm for their last combat action. I want to say that they may have seen action in the 1989 Panama invasion as well IIRC.

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by echolmberg on Wednesday, March 9, 2016 11:01 AM

Next thing you know, they'll break out the ol' Skyraiders!

Actually, I was intrugued by the title of the article.  When it mentioned "antiques", I thought maybe we were using Mustangs and Corsairs once again.  Can you imagine seeing a couple of P-47s swooping down to provide some close air support???

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Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Wednesday, March 9, 2016 10:52 AM

I'm surprised they didn't use OV-1 Mohawks too.

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Wednesday, March 9, 2016 10:32 AM

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Posted by mississippivol on Wednesday, March 9, 2016 10:01 AM
When you think about it, it's small, can loiter for a while and at a low speed, pretty quiet compared to jets, and with the recon technology, it should be able to stand off out of harm's way.
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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, March 9, 2016 9:38 AM

Well why not? I guess ISIS doesn't have much of any AA, and it is a great FAC plane.

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Posted by Gamera on Wednesday, March 9, 2016 9:33 AM

Yeah, same here, I guess the Bronco is about fifty years old but when I saw the word 'antique' I was thinking something more along the lines of a Curtiss Jenny! 

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Wednesday, March 9, 2016 9:19 AM

It is indeed an antique, but I have a hard time seeing anything later than WW2 or thirties as antique.  But actually, even a B-52 is antique these days!

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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America's Antique Planes Battling ISIS
Posted by BlackSheepTwoOneFour on Wednesday, March 9, 2016 7:36 AM

For the first time since Vietnam, the US is sending OV-10 Broncos to combat ISIS. Interesting...

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/america%e2%80%99s-antique-planes-battling-isis/ar-AAgyucu?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=iehp

 

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