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Posted by Gamera on Monday, February 3, 2020 7:09 AM

Hey GreySnake no offense taken at all! Thanks for your response. I see perfectly why you'd use two guys for the drama. I loved the movie, even if a bit odd the duo worked from a movie standpoint. 

And thanks Rob, as I said it just seems odd to me but for the movie it worked great! 

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Monday, February 3, 2020 3:36 AM

Gamera

Only question I had was as someone who has never been in the military would they really have sent two messagers out with such an important message? I'd have thought it rated at least a full squad or more. With all that was riding on it I think I wouldn't gamble on two guys who could have run into a sniper, blundered into a minefield, or even just gotten lost. 

Runners were considered one of the more secure means of communication. But yes, for this type of message, just a pair of soldiers instead of a squad or platoon seemed odd. Especially when they had to cross previously occupied territory that might still be enemy occupied.

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Posted by GreySnake on Sunday, February 2, 2020 9:07 PM

Gamera

Yeah I'm not knocking it from a drama standpoint. I really started to identify with the guys. And it did strike me as sorta a horror movie type of atmosphere. I kept expecting that everytime they let down their guard a sniper or something like that was going to go after them. 

 

 

Apologies if I came across as thinking you were knocking it from a drama standpoint. My writing style seems to come across more serious then I’d like sometimes.

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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, February 2, 2020 8:40 PM

Yeah I'm not knocking it from a drama standpoint. I really started to identify with the guys. And it did strike me as sorta a horror movie type of atmosphere. I kept expecting that everytime they let down their guard a sniper or something like that was going to go after them. 

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Posted by GreySnake on Sunday, February 2, 2020 6:27 PM

Gamera

 

Only question I had was as someone who has never been in the military would they really have sent two messagers out with such an important message? I'd have thought it rated at least a full squad or more. With all that was riding on it I think I wouldn't gamble on two guys who could have run into a sniper, blundered into a minefield, or even just gotten lost. 

 

At least during WWI not sure about other times you would not send just two guys. They do acknowledge during various points in the film the two guys are doing something extraordinary.  While not accurate I can see why this was done. Having only two characters makes the film more of a sci-fi/horror film in an odd way. Sci-fi as in No Man’s land seems alien with shell carter holes/barbed wire/bodies etc. The horror aspect is just for isolated and claustrophobic the film can make you feel at times. There were a few points in the film that I caught myself almost holding my breath. I believe having more the two characters would have taken away much from the movie and the feelings it invokes wouldn’t have been as effective.
 
One minor error that I didn’t catch the first time are the two main characters should have had their gasmask bags on the front of their chests. Oddly enough all of the other soldiers in the film do or appear to and the two mains wear them on their backs. One thing interesting to note the gasmask bags they are wearing actually had a gasmask inside of them as you could see the outline of the hose through the fabric. It’s amazing they bothered doing this instead of stuffing it with paper and whatnot.
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Posted by Gamera on Sunday, February 2, 2020 3:13 PM

Just got back from seeing it and WOW!!! Very impressive film!

The filming in one long scene was pretty friggin' amazing, I can see a few places where they could have made cuts but frankly I don't care. It just looked great!

 

Only question I had was as someone who has never been in the military would they really have sent two messagers out with such an important message? I'd have thought it rated at least a full squad or more. With all that was riding on it I think I wouldn't gamble on two guys who could have run into a sniper, blundered into a minefield, or even just gotten lost. 

PS: I was a little surprised to see modern cars zipping around until I figured out I'd wandered into the wrong theater room and they were playing 'Bad Boys'. Thankfully 1917 hadn't started yet when I ran over to the next room. Embarrassed

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Posted by murph on Tuesday, January 21, 2020 8:38 AM

I saw it last night and I thought it was extremely well done.  As others have said, if you have a weak stomach, some of the scenes will disturb you but it will give you a very realistic re-enactment of the horrors and brutality of trench and mass artillery bobmardment warfare of WWI.

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Posted by GreySnake on Sunday, January 19, 2020 7:45 AM

 

Watched the movie yesterday and thought it was excellent. The movie had some really good attention to detail such as the trench systems done correctly, various pieces of the soldiers gear at least to my novice WW1 eye, the soldiers carried their rifles correctly and they got the hip firing correct. There were a couple of minor inaccuracies that I caught. During the time frame the movie is taking place it was snowing. The tank that was shown in no man’s land was a MK. V Male I believe, which didn’t enter service to May 1918. These were the only two things that stood out to me which didn’t ruin the enjoyment of the film.
 
 
I will say the ending act of the film seemed to be overly dramatic for the sake of being overly dramatic. The critics review posted above I couldn’t disagree more with, of course I never listen to critics. I could tell some of the shots that were used to hide the edits but that was also because I wanted to see if I could find any. Otherwise if you are just watching the movie and not looking for them I doubt you’d notice. The movie was a refreshing break from the endless super hero films. I found myself thinking during the movie how hard the soldiers lives were at the front and was still reflecting on them after the movie.
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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Saturday, January 18, 2020 9:32 PM

I got to see it at Fort Knox on December 14th with my son. It was a free advance screening. I didn't think it was all that good. We preferred Midway for recent wartime movies.

It was beautifully shot and very cinematic in scope.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Friday, January 17, 2020 2:18 PM

I saw a YouTube on it's making and it does show several scenes, although unbelievably seemless and far less than most all films. One was, of course, the scene that was discused (trying not to spoil), another was when the two guys entered an underground tunnel, another was jumping into the river. The rehersal took some four months and while shooting, the camera was constantly moved to a crane, boom, man, drone, vehical etc, very impressive. I thought the acting was superb.

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Posted by Bish on Friday, January 17, 2020 1:30 PM

I have to say i could not disagre more with those comments. I did not notice any awkward attempts to hide a cut and oddly enough the most blatant error in his report is the suggestion that the charector was briefly knocked unconscious. He has a funny concept of brief.

But then again i am not a film critic, just someone who enjoys a great movie.

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Posted by ajlafleche on Friday, January 17, 2020 9:24 AM

It appears, based on the Ebert review, that, while the shots were long, the movie is not one long shot. According to his, the edits between shots are very skillfully done and mostly well hidden. 
"By comparison, there is hardly a moment to be had in “1917” in which Mendes is not calling out for viewers to notice all the technical brilliance on display. Taken strictly on those terms, the film is undeniably impressive—Roger Deakins is one of the all-time great cinematographers and his work here on what must have been a fiendishly challenging shoot is as impressive as anything he has done. The problem is that the visual conceit can’t help but draw attention to itself throughout, whether it is due to the increasingly showy camera moves or the sometimes awkward methods that are deployed to camouflage the edits and which begin to stick out more and more. (Oddly enough, the most blatantly obvious method used to hide a cut—one of the characters being briefly knocked unconscious—is actually the most dramatically effective of the bunch.) Instead of gradually fading into the background in order to make room for elements of a more dramatic or emotional nature, the distracting technique remains front and center."

 

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Posted by GreySnake on Friday, January 17, 2020 6:25 AM
Hopefully I’ll be seeing it either today or tomorrow. It will be the first movie I’ve seen in the theater since Dunkirk I believe.
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Posted by BrandonK on Monday, January 13, 2020 3:12 PM

I'm looking forward to seeing it, although we don't do the theater thing, our family dymanic won't allow it. So I have to wait for the home theater approach. I hope its as good as you all say. But let us not forget that Fury, although phony, was pretty good to watch.

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Posted by Bish on Monday, January 13, 2020 2:35 PM

Saw it on Sat with the Mrs and i have to agree Steve. Stunning movie, deffinetly up there with the best. I found it very emotional at the end.

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Posted by modelcrazy on Monday, January 13, 2020 12:49 PM

Being movies like Patton, The Battle of Britain, A Bridge Too Far, Tora, Tora, Tora and Saving Private Ryan are at the top of my list and can not loose their place, although Ryan is just slightly below the top, 1917 gets a spot right there with them.

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Posted by learmech on Monday, January 13, 2020 12:10 PM
It did win Best movie at the Golden Globe awards last week.
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Posted by Gamera on Monday, January 13, 2020 11:46 AM

Gotta go see it, the trailer looks really good! 

Have to laugh though there's an ad that started about a week ago- 'the best movie of 2020!' Ummm, when 2020 was about a week old I'm not sure 'best movie of 2020' means all that much! 

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Posted by Tojo72 on Monday, January 13, 2020 11:22 AM
My wife actually mentioned that movie to me,she is interested in seeing it.

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Posted by JohnnyK on Monday, January 13, 2020 11:20 AM

I intend to see that movie sans wife. We went to see Saving Private Ryan and she left the theater after one minute into the Normandy beach invasion scenes. I must admit, the beach landing scenes were difficult to watch.

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Posted by WillysMB on Monday, January 13, 2020 11:11 AM

We went to see it Saturday with our reenacting group and I completely concur, phenominal approach. Don't bring granny if she has a weak heart though, particularly if you see it in IMAX...

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Posted by modelcrazy on Sunday, January 12, 2020 10:38 PM

I just came back watching 1917 and thought it was excellent. The two actors were just outstanding IMO. There was one break in scenes but other than that, it was one camera following one or two guys the entire time. The actors had to continue to act the entire time, no mistakes, no fumbles, it just blew me away. One guys face went through frustration, sadness and determination within about ten seconds and I felt every one of those emotions with him.

I was one of the best war movies I have ever seen!! Again MHO.

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