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French Armor (or lack there of)

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French Armor (or lack there of)
Posted by USArmyFAO on Thursday, February 5, 2009 6:03 AM
I hear armor modelers often complain about the industry short-changing the Allies in favor of the Reich.  However, what they usually mean is that American and British subjects are not produced at the rate of their German counterparts...  What about the French???  They had quite a few interesting designs with some very eye-catching camo schemes.  Does anyone think its just because they're French - they only fought the Germans for a few weeks after all and then half the country became a German satellite, half the country was occupied, and those that remained were absorbed into fighting for the Allies (yes, I know I am over simplifying things a lot) or is it simply a matter of interest - model companies need to make a buck after all?  Thanks for any responses!

Cheers, Matt

"If we increase the size of the penguin until it is the same height as the man and then compare the relative brain size, we now find that the penguin's brain is still smaller. But, and this is the point, it is larger than it *was*."

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Posted by Rob Gronovius on Thursday, February 5, 2009 7:06 AM

Umm, didn't Tamiya just produce a pair of outstanding early war French armored vehicles along with a set of French infantrymen? Bronco and Trumpeter have each released various versions of WW2 French tanks in the past couple of years as well. And lets not forget Heller. They've had several WW2 French tanks (of course they are a French company) in their line for over 30 years.

While, obviously not as numerous as German or other Allied nations' tanks, the French were knocked out of the war relatively early and their armor development did not have a chance to progress as much as other warring nations' tanks did. Although, each of the manufacturers listed above (Tamiya, Trumpeter, Bronco, Heller) have all released versions of the French tanks that were pushed into German service.

There are more recent models of French WW2 vehicles than Italian ones.

Tamiya French Infantry: http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/item.php?product-id=35288
Tamiya French Armored Carrier UE: http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/item.php?product-id=35284
Tamiya French B1 bis: http://www.tamiyausa.com/product/item.php?product-id=35282
Bronco French Hotchkiss H39: http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/vehicles/bronco/cb35001.htm
Trumpeter French Hotchkiss H35/38: http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/vehicles/trumpeter/tr00351.htm
Trumpeter French Hotchkiss H39: http://www.perthmilitarymodelling.com/reviews/vehicles/trumpeter/tr00352.htm

Heller's old kit line included the Hotchkiss H-35/H-39 Light Tank, Renault R-35/R-39 Light Tank, and the SOMUA 35 Cavalry Tank. All of which are relatively available to this day.

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Posted by USArmyFAO on Thursday, February 5, 2009 7:35 AM

That's right, I have forgotten the Heller offerings, but with their age - maybe a new mold Somua, FCM, R35 would be great.  Just been reading a lot lately about the interwar French Army and the innovative designs it spawned.  Its intersting how the French utilized armored vehicles in a doctrine that was strategically and operationally overtly defensive in nature.  The cool cam schemes are a plus, too.  Thanks!

Cheers, Matt

"If we increase the size of the penguin until it is the same height as the man and then compare the relative brain size, we now find that the penguin's brain is still smaller. But, and this is the point, it is larger than it *was*."

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  • From: Fort Knox
Posted by Rob Gronovius on Thursday, February 5, 2009 8:06 AM

While Heller's tank kits are old, they are basically sound models. They all could use some PE and a new set of tracks to replace the stiff vinyl ones, all of which are available by ModelKasten. I should also mention that Mirage did a line of vehicle based on the French armored carrier UE as well. RPM also did a line of vehicles based on the French armored 38L Lorraine tractor. There's a lot of French armor out there.

Mirage French armored carrier UE: http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=MG35305
Mirage French AMR-UE tankette: http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=MG35306
RPM French Lorraine armored tractor: http://www.squadron.com/ItemDetails.asp?item=MKR35014

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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Thursday, February 5, 2009 2:30 PM
Yes, French WWII armor is better represented in 1/35 than either Italian or Japanese AFVs. Especailly with the latest realeases. I would love to see their late Cold War stuff better represented besides the Heller kits. Considering how widely they were exported and used in combat all over Africa and the Middle East.

 

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  • From: Fort Knox
Posted by Rob Gronovius on Thursday, February 5, 2009 3:11 PM
No, Japan is fairly well represented for an army that was basically a foot army throughout the war. In addition to the three Tamiya IJA armor kits, there are over a dozen high quality variants of IJA tanks and tankettes by Fine Molds in 1/35 scale. Among them are Type 94 Tk light tanks, Type 95 Ha-Go light tanks, Type 97 Te-Ke light tanks, Type 97 Chi-Ha medium tanks, Type 1 Chi-He medium tanks, and Type 3 Chi-Nu medium tank.
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Posted by the doog on Friday, February 6, 2009 12:38 AM
I would just about kill for a WWI St Chamond tank!
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Posted by bondoman on Friday, February 6, 2009 1:04 AM

 the doog wrote:
I would just about kill for a WWI St Chamond tank!
Well see where you get with this:

http://www.commanderseries.com/armor.htm

I'd really hate to have to go visit you at Sing Sing. But of course I would.

When you get to the main gun, check this out first:

http://www.epicurious.com/video/1915433483

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  • From: Fort Knox
Posted by Rob Gronovius on Friday, February 6, 2009 7:26 AM
Too bad all of his armor items are OOP. I've still got his T3 Christie tank converion and a few detail sets. I don't think he's been doing armor for about 5 years now.
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