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Posted by upnorth on Monday, August 17, 2009 1:49 AM

I've long since quite trying to convince myself that I will ever be able to make a model OOB again.

I always end up going to the spares box for something to dress it up or cutting up stock styrene shapes to represent this that or the other feature (or represent it better as the case may be) or at least buying aftermarket decals for the project. 

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, August 16, 2009 9:47 PM

Well here is the culprit so far... first I was just gonna replace the kit tracks with some AFV club indy links.... Then I decided to add the stowage boxes behind the troop seats in the troop compartment using sheet plastic. Next I added the grab rails along the top of the troop compartment using rod and strip styrene... next I am gonna replace the kit machine guns with some from weapons sets I have in my stash. Plus a few other mods I have thought of...Mischief [:-,] so much for a quick OOB (unlike the last tiem Ibuilt this about 20 years ago...)

 

 

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Posted by rabbiteatsnake on Monday, August 10, 2009 6:45 AM
 stikpusher wrote:
How often do you start a kit, intending to build OOB, especially an older release, and as you progress, you get caught up in adding more and more to the build. I started a kit a couple weeks ago intending to do basic OOB, with just one add on change and now am contemplating many small details or add ons scratch built to improve accuracy. How often do you find yourself in this situation?
Aye thats the rub,"just one add on change", and then you get all; In for a penny in for a pound. Its all so insidious, I recently picked up the Hasagawa 48th SAAB Draken. A lovely kit that will build up just fine OOB, then I felt how badly it needs intake trunks.  And so it begins.Dead [xx(]
The devil is in the details...and somtimes he's in my sock drawer. On the bench. Airfix 1/24 bf109E scratch conv to 109 G14AS MPC1/24 ju87B conv to 87G Rev 1/48 B17G toF Trump 1/32 f4u-1D and staying a1D Scratch 1/16 TigerII.
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Posted by Batosi420 on Saturday, August 8, 2009 5:40 PM

Hi.

It's nice to know I'm not alone.  Also, I think  Triarius  is on to something.

My biggest downfall is Ref. material. SLC doesn't have much of a LHS scene (only 3), so thank goodness for the web.

Most kits start out OOB simple enough, but Quickly go stupid.

What I really hate is when I'm down on all 4's looking for something and my Dog(Koda) NEEDS to come over and "check out" things.  I Love her, but the're called Huskies for a reason.Sigh [sigh]  And Yes, little plastic/paper bits WILL stick to a dogs nose, then it's 1 quick lick and there gone forever. OK maybe only 2 or 3 days, but I Definitely don't what them back.Dead [xx(]

Actually I'm trying something New.  I'm buying an "OK" kit and every aftermarket set I can find for it. The kit is a 1/35 BTR-152E from Skif(Ukrainian) and so far I've found an Eduard PE set and a resin wheel set from Hussar.

Kinda' reverse psychology I guess.

-Ray

"Artificial Inteligence is No match for Natural Stupidity" -Woody Paige

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Posted by RESlusher on Sunday, July 19, 2009 10:24 PM

Amen brother!

 

Richard S.

On the bench:  AFV Club M730A1 Chaparral

On deck:  Tamiya Marder 1A2

In the hole:  Who knows what's next!

 

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  • From: Central USA
Posted by qmiester on Sunday, July 19, 2009 9:38 PM

I can remember weekends years ago when I started a kit on Friday evening and was putting it on the shelf sometime Sunday afternoon.  Seams fixed, brushed on paint job and 50% of the time with AM decals (anybody remember HisAirDec decals?).

Now I find myself (when I do get the desireto build) adding things to make the look "better" (??).  Find my self scratchbuilding a lot of parts for the interior and wheel wells (whole lot cheaper than resin but takes more time).  But, like Rudi35, I'm starting to have problems listening to others who tell me that if I don't do certain things, in a certain manner or build certain kits or scales or don't use certain products, then I'm not a "real" modeler.  Maybe I need to go back to building models like I used to -for relaxation and my own enjoyment.  And if you happen to like what I've built, that's great.  And if you don't like it, sorry about that.

Quincy
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Posted by Rudi35 on Thursday, July 16, 2009 7:55 PM

To be completely honest, I'm not a very good modeler. Never have been, never will. My eyesight is bad, I have sausage fingers and not much patience.

I'm getting back into the hobby after many years and part of the reason I stopped was that I listened to others too much and felt like I had to make as accurate a model as possible and got off track. I'm not obsessed with the subjects, do very little research (if any) and just want to have an enjoyable and relaxing experience. So I am happy with a decent representation of the subject and at this time I intend to just build OOB. I may change my mind in the future but my immediate goal is to just finish a model :)

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Posted by Bullet21 on Wednesday, July 15, 2009 5:26 AM

Pretty much everytime I build one. It started out small, you know, a couple of extra jerry cans on the rear deck maybe. Then it was adding some junk from the spares box into the back of the truck. Then I bought my 1st set of a/m decals to represent not just ANY Spitfire, but THAT Spitfire! Then, oh please help me, I discovered Friuly tracks! It sure does make a build last a lot longer, lol. Good thing I don't do this for a living.

 Keep SmilinLiberation of Western Europe'--it makes this world a nicer place.

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Posted by TarnShip on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 11:57 PM

that's the Little Rock up in Buffalo,,,I'm standing on the deck of The Sullivans for that shot

just thought it would be a cool place for a guy in a Jarhead cap to stand, lol

we always take pics on the deck of every Museum ship we visit, or gate guard aicraft we stop next to,,,,,it helps Swmbo participate in the whole modeling thing to some degree

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Posted by subfixer on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 6:44 PM

Every model I build is out of the box. How can you build a model if it's still in the box?

Hey Tarnship, what ship are you standing in front of in your avatar.

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

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  • From: Rowland Heights, California
Posted by Duke Maddog on Tuesday, July 14, 2009 5:11 PM

To be honest...... never.

 

All I ever do is build OOB.

I have done some models with some aftermarket detail sets before, but only if I either got the sets for free (or greatly reduced cost in the Distressed Kit Auction) or if they were tossed into a model and gotten for free with the model purchase. I can't afford to buy aftermarket stuff.  

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Posted by TarnShip on Monday, July 6, 2009 11:28 PM

I long ago ended up with "multiple detail levels" in my collection,,,,but, there is a "sort of OOB" level in my building

I build a 1/72 Hasegawa F-4E mostly OOB, for example,,,,this leaves a bunch of great detail upgrade parts for a Fujimi F-4B,,,which bumps some more parts "down" to an old Hasegawa or Revell F-4 Kit, giving me the "best" I can do without buying resin (I do this with all aircraft types in my collection, leaving a lot of "best plastic parts" builds, or "not OOB, but no resin involved")

if I buy resin, of course,,,all bets are off on doing many OOB's, lol

almost gone

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Posted by RESlusher on Monday, July 6, 2009 1:46 PM

Here's my My 2 cents [2c]...

Almost all of my armor projects are built as closed tops so I don't worry about interior details. 

With the rest of it, I only worry about the aftermarket stuff if the kit has some sort of glaringly obvious flaws.  I've never been one for buying one piece, turned aluminum barrels for example.  No offense to those of you who do.  It's just not my thing.

I will however be buying the aftermarket "slat armor" add-on for one of my Stryker kits though.

So I guess it just boils down to what your tolerance for accuracy is. 

Richard S.

On the bench:  AFV Club M730A1 Chaparral

On deck:  Tamiya Marder 1A2

In the hole:  Who knows what's next!

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, July 5, 2009 1:25 PM
Well here is my particular situation- I decided to build an old Tamiya 135 kfz 251C. The kit dates back to the mid 70s or so. Straight OOB it makes a nice kit. But the tracks needed replacement since the kit ones have no detail on the inner face. I have a set of AFV Club indy links that are a vast improvement. But then while doing research I found the interior is lacking in a few areas, so I am debating adding a few scratch built details to correct this. Had I not started down this path I would probably be done with most of it by now except for weathering, which was my original intent....Banged Head [banghead]

 

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N is for NO SURVIVORS...

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Posted by Mike F6F on Sunday, July 5, 2009 12:50 PM
Depends on what you class as an OOB.

Its been a long time since I built a kit with just what's in the box. I'll at least change the markings if I'm doing an A/C kit. Doing the same plane as everybody else did, just kinda bugs me, I guess. But, that might be ALL I do. As others have said, the new kits really don't need much AM stuff. And when you really can't see it, why bother. If that still counts as an OOB build, OK, I do them.

Now when building a ship, I'm going for PE railings, scratchbuild mods, just about anything.

It may be just me, but building a OOB aircraft carrier, slapping a given numbered decal on it and then calling it the USS Whatever is just wrong. But then, unlike planes, no two ships are often just alike. They all have differences, changes over the ship's life, etc. Representing those differences is what makes modeling ships challenging for me. But again, that's really the nature of a ship model.

Of course, everybody's free to do models the way they want to. Just keep it fun.

Mike



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Posted by PaintsWithBrush on Sunday, July 5, 2009 10:00 AM
Until very recently, I was OOB all the way. I did an old Revell 1/32 Corsair whose cockpit was in such desperate need of upgrade and the TrueDetails resin cockpit was so reasonably priced I couldn't resist.
Now, if the kit really needs it, I'm willing to go the upgrade route. Most the stuff available now is (to me anyway) good enough to go OOB, but I do have some older stuff (Monogram 1/48 Helldiver) that cries out for attention so I bought the resin cockpit upgrades for the ProModeler kit, fingers crossed that they will be adaptable.
I'm not big into the "super upgrading" of already (again, to MY eyes) good kits of today so the AM companies aren't going to get rich off me, but I can see where people like to go wild on theirs, especially if they have the skills/patience to pull it off.
The main area I deviate from OOB is with the AM decal sets. Love all the variety out there. Well, that and the fact that they are the one piece of AM I can deal with best in terms of skill needed to work with.
Regards, PWB.

A 100% rider on a 70% bike will always defeat a 70% rider on a 100% bike. (Kenny Roberts)

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Posted by SprueOne on Sunday, July 5, 2009 9:41 AM
 Daywalker wrote:

Every time I build a model. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]



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Posted by camo junkie on Sunday, July 5, 2009 7:52 AM
i suppose im not the norm stik (but who knows). everytime i model i generally do just o.o.b.! the only time i wont is if i have a real nice kit that i really want to put the work into. which are few and far between. most of my stash consists of cheap kits that i bought to "practice" on and i generally dont make much effort trying to make them accurate. sometimes too i just enjoy the build and dont worry about it! so i guess in answer to your question for me anyway, it would be....it just depends! Big Smile [:D]
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Posted by Hans von Hammer on Sunday, July 5, 2009 7:38 AM
 Daywalker wrote:

 stikpusher wrote:
How often do you start a kit, intending to build OOB, especially an older release, and as you progress, you get caught up in adding more and more to the build. I started a kit a couple weeks ago intending to do basic OOB, with just one add on change and now am contemplating many small details or add ons scratch built to improve accuracy. How often do you find yourself in this situation?

Every time I build a model. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Every... Single... Time...

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Posted by Daywalker on Sunday, July 5, 2009 12:24 AM

 stikpusher wrote:
How often do you start a kit, intending to build OOB, especially an older release, and as you progress, you get caught up in adding more and more to the build. I started a kit a couple weeks ago intending to do basic OOB, with just one add on change and now am contemplating many small details or add ons scratch built to improve accuracy. How often do you find yourself in this situation?

Every time I build a model. Smile,Wink, & Grin [swg]

Frank 

 

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Posted by KAYSEE88 on Saturday, July 4, 2009 11:47 PM

 stikpusher wrote:
How often do you start a kit, intending to build OOB, especially an older release, and as you progress, you get caught up in adding more and more to the build. I started a kit a couple weeks ago intending to do basic OOB, with just one add on change and now am contemplating many small details or add ons scratch built to improve accuracy. How often do you find yourself in this situation?

depends how bad the kit is.....

for me, all Lindberg/Esci kits needs some add-ons

other than that.....its OOB for me....AND especially when my clients won't open their wallets wider than i'd like them to 

 

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Out Of Box builds?
Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, July 4, 2009 10:37 PM
How often do you start a kit, intending to build OOB, especially an older release, and as you progress, you get caught up in adding more and more to the build. I started a kit a couple weeks ago intending to do basic OOB, with just one add on change and now am contemplating many small details or add ons scratch built to improve accuracy. How often do you find yourself in this situation?

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

LSM

 

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